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Why the Asari Valkyrie should not be played like the N7 Fury. (now with more bad quality pictures!)


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#226
Esther

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I'd like to see some gameplay videos from you. Will we ever get to enjoy any?

On this note, great post.

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great, now that BioWare has seen this, get ready for a Valkyrie nerf. I don't post about what is awesome anymore because it always seems to get nerfed right afterwards....Murphy's Law I guess.

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Have just tried it on platinum vs Reapers, and oh boy is than an experience. Getting close to the enemy is a real b*tch. I got sucked into Banshee's grab 5 or 6 times, lol.
But the damage you can inflict is really worth this risk.

Also, I think that debuffs stacks with volus' reckon mine and proxy mine. I wonder if 'damage taken' modifier is capped or not.

Anyway, good catch, OP.

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1Magnolie wrote...

I'd like to see some gameplay videos from you. Will we ever get to enjoy any?



Probably not unless I somehow manage to get my hands on a capture card. Who knows when that will happen...

1Magnolie wrote...

On this note, great post.


thanks...


XTR3M3 wrote...

great, now that BioWare has seen this, get
ready for a Valkyrie nerf. I don't post about what is awesome anymore
because it always seems to get nerfed right afterwards....Murphy's Law I
guess.


I would like to think Bioware was aware of this character's damage potential when they gave it two debuffs and a passive ability that gives the durability to utilize them before they decided to release it.

I could be wrong though.

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RobertM525 wrote...

Not feeling it at all. Regular mobs
chew you up pretty easy (unless you switch from the Reegar to a ranged
weapon and make no use of AF) and you're extremely situational against bosses. If you can't use the elevation exploit, you're basically useless. (Unless you want to get sync-killed by Banshees.)


I've no problem with regular mobs and facing bosses on normal ground is not a problem. I've "danced" with Praetorians, Banshees, Brutes etc with success many times. Just dodge and use the map to your advantage. C'mon, warp is projectile and AF goes through walls. 

Ashen Earth...

I could be wrong though.


The demo, destroyer, Krysae, Typhoon...what may save the AS is that people won't know how to use her well, seriously, I don't think she is a character that normal players will find easy to use.

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Need to pair off an Asari Justicar with max sphere and this debuff style Asari Sentinel...

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still running around with A field is high risk , even higher risk than vanguard as enemy has nearly 100% accuracy

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TommyNg wrote...

still running around with A field is high risk , even higher risk than vanguard as enemy has nearly 100% accuracy


Enemy accuracy means jack s*** when you're capable of dealing 27,000 points of damage in 6-7 seconds. (That's almost 4000 damage per second)

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Yeah, but can the Valkyrie look like Kasumi? NO SHE CANNOT. She better be damn good for the generic asari adept model they gave her.

Also, she's ****ing fun. I prefer the duration/drain end evolution though.

Now if they give the Turian Ghost the Destroyer treatment, I'll be happy.

Modifié par Lucrece, 28 octobre 2012 - 08:01 .


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Mcfly616

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Are are your attributes OP?

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Mcfly616 wrote...

Are are your attributes OP?


Not sure I follow... :?

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I don't know if this has been said but proxy's debuff doesn't stack with itself. Nothing stacks with itself other than Shield Boost.

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Ramsutin wrote...

I don't know if this has been said but proxy's debuff doesn't stack with itself. Nothing stacks with itself other than Shield Boost.


Somehow I don't think that will put an end to the GI nerf cries.

Anyway, I edited that out of the OP. I would like a link to that thread where it was confirmed though.

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 28 octobre 2012 - 08:33 .


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Mcfly616

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Like how do you distribute your attribute points.....? (The the Asari Valkyrie)

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Mcfly616 wrote...

Like how do you distribute your attribute points.....? (The the Asari Valkyrie)


The build I use now is different from the one I used in this clip, but I have the old one posted on page two.

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I think I found it: http://social.biowar...7611/1#14128257

BTW I thought that you meant that proxy stacks with itself when fired from single player. It stacks if another proxy comes from another player.

Modifié par Ramsutin, 28 octobre 2012 - 09:04 .


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GI nerf cries are meaningless while the Turian Ghost exists. He's the GI sans the glass cannon risk (yeah, yeah, cyclonic modulators and ****, whatever, other similarly shielded classes can use it as well, such as the Turian Ghost plus his stim packs).

Turian Ghost makes pre-nerf Destroyer with Typhoon look like a sissy.

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Hey guys according to narida's class builder the "power damage" bonus from Tech armor doesnt appear to influence debuffs like AF and Warp. Is this a typo? I am thinking of changing into 4/6/6/6/4 and dropping "Power Damage" evolution from TA

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I need help figuring out my build. I am 6/6/4/4/6 i think. I go till movement speed on AF which I'm guessing is also where it's Expose is and go full TA simply for power speed penalty, I want to like the Valky but it appears my best class is still the Ghost....

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sandboxgod wrote...

Hey guys according to narida's class builder the "power damage" bonus from Tech armor doesnt appear to influence debuffs like AF and Warp. Is this a typo? I am thinking of changing into 4/6/6/6/4 and dropping "Power Damage" evolution from TA


The power damage evolution isn't supposed to affect debuffs, the debuffs affect your passive damage output through AF because AF is a power and both the AF+Warp debuffs increase weapon and power damage dealt to enemies by 15%. Tech Armor's power synergy bonus is only there to make AF's DoT better. It's not really necessary though.

AzureSky899 wrote...

I need help figuring out my build. I
am 6/6/4/4/6 i think. I go till movement speed on AF which I'm guessing
is also where it's Expose is and go full TA simply for power speed
penalty, I want to like the Valky but it appears my best class is still
the Ghost....


The class is really not that difficult, you just need to focus on what actually makes the class unique. If you take movement speed in AF, and focus on only biotic explosions you're simply playing a slower more durable version of the Fury. If you skip out on AF and focus on her passives, fitness, Warp and TA you're simply playing a gimped Turian or Human Sentinel.

The one thing that the Valkyrie has that is unique to her is that she's the only biotic in the game that can stack two debuffs on all defense types in the game. If you skip out on either of those, then there is always going to be a class that can do what you're attempting to do better than you can.

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Ashen, The way you play the Valkyrie is the only way to play.

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UKStory135 wrote...

Ashen, The way you play the Valkyrie is the only way to play.


Not really.

It is however, more effective than being a knock off N7 Fury imitation. Intentionally skipping out on what gives a class an advantage over other similar classes doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Skipping out on the two debuff abilities of the Valkyrie and then complaining about how it's a worse character than the Fury makes about as much sense as skipping out on Hunter Mode with a Geth Infiltrator and complaining about how the Salarian is better.

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 29 octobre 2012 - 08:11 .


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Now lets see how long takes to appear the NERF VALKYRIE RIGHT NAUUU!!!!111!!1 threads

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When I unlocked her the other night I wasn't too excited because I read a couple of things on BSN that lead me to believe that she sort of was not great. I'm glad I decided to give her a go, I haven't put her down since. There's just something so much fun about this character. I'm running around with a Wraith III and dominating...

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neofito31 wrote...

Now lets see how long takes to appear the NERF VALKYRIE RIGHT NAUUU!!!!111!!1 threads


Considering how many people still insist on playing her like a gimped N7 Fury, I doubt we have anything to worry about.