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[mykejm]

Thoughts on 6/6/6/4/4 vs. 6/6/6/0/6?

[whateverman7]

Deerber wrote...

Ok so, back on topic.

I get it that this awesomness isn't valkyrie-related in every way. What I mean is that you could take speed over debuff on AF and still be able to kill that banshee in about the same time, maybe a 10% increase. Am I wrong, Ashen?

Just to explain, it's not to criticize what you did, just to understand if I can do a slightly similar build, with speed though, and still expect similar results.

i wasnt trying to take the thread off topic, just posted what came to me while reading the thread....but i apologize, yall continue

[Rebel_Raven]

Nice find! Kudos on putting the puzzle pieces together. I'll take your advice on the build when I get my Valkyrie.

[whateverman7]

mykejm wrote...

Thoughts on 6/6/6/4/4 vs. 6/6/6/0/6?

if you take the 6/6/6/0/6 build, you're gimping yourself and limiting what she can do

[Deerber]

whateverman7 wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Ok so, back on topic.

I get it that this awesomness isn't valkyrie-related in every way. What I mean is that you could take speed over debuff on AF and still be able to kill that banshee in about the same time, maybe a 10% increase. Am I wrong, Ashen?

Just to explain, it's not to criticize what you did, just to understand if I can do a slightly similar build, with speed though, and still expect similar results.

i wasnt trying to take the thread off topic, just posted what came to me while reading the thread....but i apologize, yall continue

I'm sorry, I actually was not referring to you, but to my previous post 
When I started writing, your post still had not appeared. I know, I know... I'm slow :happy:

[Hantaksk]

Cant wait to see all the copy paste build players getting insta killed on my PUG games... wait... in the end thats not a good thing :S

[sareth_65536]

whateverman7 wrote...

mykejm wrote...

Thoughts on 6/6/6/4/4 vs. 6/6/6/0/6?

if you take the 6/6/6/0/6 build, you're gimping yourself and limiting what she can do

what exactly can she do with 66644 and can't with 66606?

[whateverman7]

sareth_65536 wrote...

what exactly can she do with 66644 and can't with 66606?

the 4 build allows her to carry heavier weapons without affecting cooldown as much; also, it increases her power damage

[Rib0flavin]

Very Nice. I wasn't too sure on what the Valkyrie should play like. This build settles it. time for a respec!

[Wynne]

Hey, Ashen Earth... I love this idea; I feel like you've really pinpointed what the Valkyrie's for. So here's my question: If I'm going with a Hurricane 3 (HVB/Heat Sink), the gains on Power Recharge seem a lot less than they would be if I took a Reegar. If I took another upgrade, would you recommend DR, Power Damage & Force, or SRD?

[whateverman7]

Rib0flavin wrote...

Very Nice. I wasn't too sure on what the Valkyrie should play like. This build settles it. time for a respec!

arent you the cat that was calling for a ghost nerf?....you play her right, i expect to see you calling for a valkyrie nerf too lol

[Major Durza]

BRB Rebuilding my Valkyrie.

[Immortal Strife]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Blissey1 wrote...

see, I'm thinking the same thing with only 4 in TA, but I'd put the rest in fitness, primarily for the sheild recharge delay reduction.

I also prefer range on AF, just so I don't have to get quite as close to bosses and far away form my soft cover.

AFAIK Radius on AF only affects the blast radius.

Range on AF increases both the radius of purging and the range at which AF will do damage and prime, confirmed by a Dev just after the Fury release-I really don't feel like searching for it but can if need be.

Modifié par Immortal Strife, 26 octobre 2012 - 10:32 .

[MorinthSamara]

Ashen Earth wrote...

So the idea isn't to run into a group of troopers and spam Warp. What you should be doing is running towards Scions, Praetorians, Atlases, Geth Primes, Brutes, and Ravagers, double debuffing them and then outright killing them before they become a threat.

Bump for ultimate protip for Asari Valkyrie.

[Clivemax69]

Ashen Earth wrote...

RobertM525 wrote...

Standing that close to an enemy that can sync-kill me makes me entirely too nervous to ever try that. Neat idea, though.

Sync kill units cannot grab you if you are not on the same level of elevation with them, and the Valkyrie is durable enough to tank anything a Banshee can throw at her unless it's a melee.

SpockLives wrote...

What build did you use for that clip?

6/6/6/4/4

Annihilation Field: Damage, Damage Taken, Drain
Tech Armor: Durability, Power Damage, Power Recharge
Warp: Detonate. Expose, Pierce
Asari Valkyrie: Damage and Capacity
Fitness: Durability

I used a Reegar Carbine X with the HVB mod + spare ammo, and Collector SMG with ULM and the magazine upgrade

Warp ammo IV
Cyclonic Modulator IV
Shotgun Rail Amp III
Shotgun Amp V.

I imagine it would have been even more hilarious if I had used Incendiary Ammo with Warp.

Hey Ashen, if you don't have many cyclonic modulators would you recommend any changes to the build or simply play with more awareness?

[whateverman7]

MorinthSamara wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

So the idea isn't to run into a group of troopers and spam Warp. What you should be doing is running towards Scions, Praetorians, Atlases, Geth Primes, Brutes, and Ravagers, double debuffing them and then outright killing them before they become a threat.

Bump for ultimate protip for Asari Valkyrie.

only issue i have with that is if the player doesnt know how to play like that, i dont want them to try, which leads to their death, and hurting the team, just cause ashen said to....

[Feneckus]

Immortal Strife wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Blissey1 wrote...

see, I'm thinking the same thing with only 4 in TA, but I'd put the rest in fitness, primarily for the sheild recharge delay reduction.

I also prefer range on AF, just so I don't have to get quite as close to bosses and far away form my soft cover.

AFAIK Radius on AF only affects the blast radius.

Range on AF increases both the radius of purging and the range at which AF will do damage and prime, confirmed by a Dev just after the Fury release-I really don't feel like searching for it but can if need be.

Damn it, really ? I just used a respec card 

[llandwynwyn]

Asari Valkyrie Waves Completed [74%]...Man, I've been playing her way too much. Never thought I would love her like I do. I'm starting to think I like her more than the Tsent.

Anyway...I'm thinking of playing plat again and want to use the AS, my build is pretty similar to yours (I don't take recharge), Ashen Earth, except I use the wraith X and Adrenaline Module 3 on her. Will this work? Should I use CM 4 instead of AM3? On gold, I noticed I tend to survive more when I play with the enemies using the AM, but plat is another story.

[Black Phantom]

sareth_65536 wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...
No.

It's because I combined the only class in the game that can stack multiple debuffs on an enemy, and ridiculous amounts of DoT with a weapon that takes full advantage of those debuffs.

If you think it's just the Reegar, feel free to make a video of yourself using a Human Enginer, or other caster without a debuff with a Reegar Carbine and kill a Banshee in about 6-7 seconds. If you can do that, I'll admit I'm wrong.

I didn't say it is possible with other no-weapon based classes (well, I was able to kill an atlas in 8 seconds using vorcha and only reegar but it is most likely because of the multihit bug)
I guess even if you use harrier X it will require at least 12 seconds right? Even if so, still a nice build and guide.

You're missing the point.

The idea is that we have a caster class with single target damage output potential on par with Soldiers/Infiltrators, before you consider the fact that the two debuffs also increase the damage done by said Soldiers/Infiltrators and people are overlooking it because they think it should be played like the Fury since they share one ability.

My offer still stands, if you can prove that there is Sentinel, Engineer Adept or Vanguard lacking a debuff power that can kill a Banshee on Gold from full Barrier/Health in roughly 6-7 seconds with a Reegar Carbine I will admit it was the Reegar Carbine being showcased here, and I have no idea what I'm talking about.

[LennethValky]

Hantaksk wrote...

Cant wait to see all the copy paste build players getting insta killed on my PUG games... wait... in the end thats not a good thing :S

Same thing that happens in many MMOs etc., but unlike here, there it actually works and probably is better, to some extent at least.

Sometimes I find myself having the builds suggested, other times mine is slightly different as I experimented with it and found it to fit my playstyle better.
There can be some wrongs, but many more rights. Just copying a build and a loadout won't make you a killermachine, if you aren't used to it or it is horribly broken.

[CitizenThom]

whateverman7 wrote...

MorinthSamara wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

So the idea isn't to run into a group of troopers and spam Warp. What you should be doing is running towards Scions, Praetorians, Atlases, Geth Primes, Brutes, and Ravagers, double debuffing them and then outright killing them before they become a threat.

Bump for ultimate protip for Asari Valkyrie.

only issue i have with that is if the player doesnt know how to play like that, i dont want them to try, which leads to their death, and hurting the team, just cause ashen said to....

People should in general play to their strengths. I tend to play the Valkyrie similar to a blend of Fury(speed, detonations) and N7 Shadow (how I pick the targets) and Vorcha Soldier (prioritising and melting armored units/phantoms).

[Uh Cold]

I do fine with 5/6/6/5/3 spec for movement speed.
My logic for movement speed is even if the field bugs out with the animation I'll know because my movement will be lacking so I don't run into mobs thinking it's on to detonate.

[MinatheBrat]

Thanks very much for the info and video OP! Good stuff.

[Jecalux]

Ashen Earth wrote...
OP

So basically you're saying that the best build for this character is 3/6/6/5/6.

[BanditGR]

I've been screaming exactly what Ashen stated in his OP since Valkyrie was released. The strength of the Valkyrie is in boss killing. As for builds I tend to go for 6/6/6/5/3, taking the extra power damage in the passive since the rank 4 fitness evo adds 75 shields which is an insignificant amount for Gold and Platinum. Cyclonic is simply worth a lot more (if not going for a power amp). That being said, radius does indeed increase both the range of the AF application and the blast radius and I found it to be slightly more useful than the extra damage.