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[Black Phantom]

CitizenThom wrote...

p.s. Does a biotic detonation apply the Warp debuff to all enemies in the radius of the detonation, or only the originally tagetted enemy?

It's not the biotic detonation that applies the debuff, it's Warp/AF.

The Warp debuff is only applied to the enemy you hit with Warp, and AF's debuff is applied to everyone in the radius. You'll only double debuff one enemy at a time.

Deerber wrote...

Ok so, back on topic.

I get it
that this awesomness isn't valkyrie-related in every way. What I mean is
that you could take speed over debuff on AF and still be able to kill
that banshee in about the same time, maybe a 10% increase. Am I wrong,
Ashen?

Just to explain, it's not to criticize what you did, just
to understand if I can do a slightly similar build, with speed though,
and still expect similar results.

I can't tell you how to play, but you would be squandering her potential. Having 2 different skills that both increase all damage to enemies from all sources by 15% each is what makes her unique (unless you count the Volus Engineer) and the fact that they can perform a biotic combo is a bonus. If you skipped the AF debuff, went with Expose Warp and attempted to do what I did here, why not just play a Turian Sentinel instead? He has a higher weapon damage bonus.

Also keep in mind that the debuffs apply to teammates weapons/powers too. I wouldn't skip either of them, it's the best thing since the Justicar bubble.

Jecalux wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...
OP

So basically you're saying that the best build for this character is 3/6/6/5/6.

No.

Uh Cold wrote...

I do fine with 5/6/6/5/3 spec for movement speed.
My
logic for movement speed is even if the field bugs out with the
animation I'll know because my movement will be lacking so I don't run
into mobs thinking it's on to detonate.

I hate it when AF bugs out, especially with a heavy weapon like the Reegar, Raider, Graal, Claymore (becase it takes ages to recast), and that's the main reason I specced level 6 AF for Drain. That 100% duration increase is too good to pass up.

It still happens, but it's not as much as an issue since she has 2 "get off me" buttons (tech armor/AF detonations)

[Zjarcal]

Feneckus wrote...

Immortal Strife wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Blissey1 wrote...

see, I'm thinking the same thing with only 4 in TA, but I'd put the rest in fitness, primarily for the sheild recharge delay reduction.

I also prefer range on AF, just so I don't have to get quite as close to bosses and far away form my soft cover.

AFAIK Radius on AF only affects the blast radius.

Range on AF increases both the radius of purging and the range at which AF will do damage and prime, confirmed by a Dev just after the Fury release-I really don't feel like searching for it but can if need be.

Damn it, really ? I just used a respec card 

I found this...

http://social.biowar...1107/3#13661597

[RequiemPrime]

Ok.......just gave this build shot.



It is ridiculously powerful...and I mean RIDICULOUSLY.

Took her in with an Acolyte only with, Pistol Amp 2, Warp Ammo 2 (for Biotic Boost). Adrenaline Module 2

Proved the OP's point about Banshee's.  Brutes I just had to dodge around them, run up, then "Pow" with Warp.  Survivaability would be a problem only with the mobs, if you happen to be the subject of their focus fire. Surprisingly though, only got put down once.  And only had two close calls, but was able to recover.  Ravagers are an after thought, they are done once they get caught in the field.

Yeah....I umm.....believe this will end up getting nerfed next.

[Black Phantom]

Clivemax69 wrote...

Hey Ashen, if you don't have many cyclonic modulators would you recommend any changes to the build or simply play with more awareness?

Power Amplifier IV and the DoT from Annihilation Field gets kind of ridiculous.

You'll have to be more careful when dealing with bosses though.

[wac2791]

I really want an Asari Valkyrie...

[Learn To Love Yourself]

Cool find, Ashen. Thanks for posting this.

I never thought to try out the Reegar on her because I don't like the gun. I may have to try it out to see though.

I also didn't think that the power bonuses did much for her because Warp & AF's DOT's don't supply that much damage, and I felt I could do more damage with weapons.

I ended up with a 4/6/6/6/4 build
TA: Durability (I know you are a proponent for the blast, but I really felt like I'd never use it on her) - though I debated between going to 3 or 6

AF: Radius, Damage Taken, Drain (best way to tank, imo)

Warp: standard - Detonate, Expose, Pierce

Passive: Damage & Capacity, Headshot Damage (I know, right? But with the reintroduction of Boss headshots, I thought this would work well with the Wraith), Weapon Damage

Fitness: Health & Shields

I ran a test solo on Gold vs Reapers to see how she fared.

Weapons:
Wraith w/ smart choke & HVB
Acolyte w/ extended mag & EB

Densified Ammo Gear, Shotgun Rail Amp II, Incendiary IV, Cyclonic II

I really just wanted to mess around to see how the build worked. You can AF>Warp BE + Wraith shot a Brute, who should die from the DOT. Basically a OHK.

When playing with friends afterwards, I mainly used hit and run tactics, getting in the face of Praetorians, Scions, etc, much like you in the vid, but not tanking for a length of time like that. Felt like a good fit for the Valkyrie.

Anyway, how much do all the Power Bonsuses actually help AF & Warp's DOT? Since I planned for a hit and run character, weapon damage held more weight for me.
If anything, I may switch to a 5/6/6/6/3 build.

[Black Phantom]

Jack Crapper wrote...

Anyway, how much do all the Power Bonsuses actually help AF & Warp's DOT? Since I planned for a hit and run character, weapon damage held more weight for me.
If anything, I may switch to a 5/6/6/6/3 build.

Warp's DoT isn't all that great unless you're using Incendiary Ammo, but I've actually managed to free myself from Banshee grabs with AF because the DoT is awesome for a passive ability. (it's already better than the N7 Fury's version because of Tech Armor before you consider the Valkyrie has an additional debuff)

I don't know the numbers though, sorry

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 26 octobre 2012 - 11:11 .

[Grumpy Old Wizard]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Tl;DR the Valkyrie is a better boss killer than the Fury could ever hope to be.
.

Any class that concentrates on shooting is a better killer than any power spammer. Sad fact.

[Black Phantom]

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Tl;DR the Valkyrie is a better boss killer than the Fury could ever hope to be.
.

Any class that concentrates on shooting is a better killer than any power spammer. Sad fact.

Tell us all how mad that makes you.

We'd love to hear it again.

[Black Phantom]

Angelwave wrote...

Ok.......just gave this build shot.



It is ridiculously powerful...and I mean RIDICULOUSLY.

Took her in with an Acolyte only with, Pistol Amp 2, Warp Ammo 2 (for Biotic Boost). Adrenaline Module 2

Proved the OP's point about Banshee's.  Brutes I just had to dodge around them, run up, then "Pow" with Warp.  Survivaability would be a problem only with the mobs, if you happen to be the subject of their focus fire. Surprisingly though, only got put down once.  And only had two close calls, but was able to recover.  Ravagers are an after thought, they are done once they get caught in the field.

Yeah....I umm.....believe this will end up getting nerfed next.

I believe you missed the point of this thread.

[Learn To Love Yourself]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Jack Crapper wrote...

Anyway, how much do all the Power Bonsuses actually help AF & Warp's DOT? Since I planned for a hit and run character, weapon damage held more weight for me.
If anything, I may switch to a 5/6/6/6/3 build.

Warp's DoT isn't all that great unless you're using Incendiary Ammo, but I've actually managed to free myself from Banshee grabs with AF because the DoT is awesome for a passive ability. (it's already better than the N7 Fury's version because of Tech Armor before you consider the Valkyrie has an additional debuff)

I don't know the numbers though, sorry

Okay, thanks.  I'll have to test this out.  I think I'll count alligators to see how long AF can kill things tonight with both spec's. 
For the first time ever, the RNG is being stingy with respec cards. 

I'll also check Warp > AF Field (No explosion, just all DOT) just for kicks.

Anyway, thanks for posting this.

[Black Phantom]

Jack Crapper wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Jack Crapper wrote...

Anyway, how much do all the Power Bonsuses actually help AF & Warp's DOT? Since I planned for a hit and run character, weapon damage held more weight for me.
If anything, I may switch to a 5/6/6/6/3 build.

Warp's DoT isn't all that great unless you're using Incendiary Ammo, but I've actually managed to free myself from Banshee grabs with AF because the DoT is awesome for a passive ability. (it's already better than the N7 Fury's version because of Tech Armor before you consider the Valkyrie has an additional debuff)

I don't know the numbers though, sorry

Okay, thanks.  I'll have to test this out.  I think I'll count alligators to see how long AF can kill things tonight with both spec's. 

Make sure to use a power amplifier III or IV.

[7Banzai]

I prefer the Valkyrie with a harrier (mostly because I finally unlocked it) on a 6/6/6/5/3.

Annihilation Field: Radius, Damage Taken, Drain
Tech Armor: Durability, Power Damage, Power Recharge
Warp: Detonate. Expose, Pierce
Asari Valkyrie: Damage and Capacity, Headshot Damage

AR Amp V
AR Rail Amp
Cyclonic Modulator
Warp ammo

[ForThessia]

I'll try this build when I get home, looks very impressive.

[Learn To Love Yourself]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Jack Crapper wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Jack Crapper wrote...

Anyway, how much do all the Power Bonsuses actually help AF & Warp's DOT? Since I planned for a hit and run character, weapon damage held more weight for me.
If anything, I may switch to a 5/6/6/6/3 build.

Warp's DoT isn't all that great unless you're using Incendiary Ammo, but I've actually managed to free myself from Banshee grabs with AF because the DoT is awesome for a passive ability. (it's already better than the N7 Fury's version because of Tech Armor before you consider the Valkyrie has an additional debuff)

I don't know the numbers though, sorry

Okay, thanks.  I'll have to test this out.  I think I'll count alligators to see how long AF can kill things tonight with both spec's. 

Make sure to use a power amplifier III or IV.

Bahaha no way.  But for you, I will use a Mental Focuser Gear.  I won't be using any equipment otherwise, as I don't plan on going past wave 3, whether it be Silver or Gold

[Rib0flavin]

whateverman7 wrote...

Rib0flavin wrote...

Very Nice. I wasn't too sure on what the Valkyrie should play like. This build settles it. time for a respec!

arent you the cat that was calling for a ghost nerf?....you play her right, i expect to see you calling for a valkyrie nerf too lol

Me? No, I did toss out it probably will since its fun to play and I like to play the class lol.

[tsG33K]

Wow i use the exact same build with a pirrana and a paladin for backup... Seemed to be a well kept secret until now . No more laughing at how people are calling her "a watered down fury."

Good post ashen.

[HoochieHamiltoe]

Just used her in a PUG for the first time(Gold), and boy she really is amazing. By far is the best Asari and those 2 debuffs do a phenomenal job at taking down the big bosses.

[Grumpy Old Wizard]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Tl;DR the Valkyrie is a better boss killer than the Fury could ever hope to be.
.

Any class that concentrates on shooting is a better killer than any power spammer. Sad fact.

Tell us all how mad that makes you.

We'd love to hear it again.

You seem to have confused two words of the English language. Sad does not equal mad. There are online dictionaries you can refer to if you are confused about the words.

Modifié par Grumpy Old Wizard, 26 octobre 2012 - 11:39 .

[Relix28]

Immortal Strife wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Blissey1 wrote...

see, I'm thinking the same thing with only 4 in TA, but I'd put the rest in fitness, primarily for the sheild recharge delay reduction.

I also prefer range on AF, just so I don't have to get quite as close to bosses and far away form my soft cover.

AFAIK Radius on AF only affects the blast radius.

Range on AF increases both the radius of purging and the range at which AF will do damage and prime, confirmed by a Dev just after the Fury release-I really don't feel like searching for it but can if need be.

I would appreciate it, if you could find for that post.

[Rebel_Raven]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Tl;DR the Valkyrie is a better boss killer than the Fury could ever hope to be.
.

Any class that concentrates on shooting is a better killer than any power spammer. Sad fact.

Tell us all how mad that makes you.

We'd love to hear it again.

If it weren't true, he'd not be upset about it.

[Black Phantom]

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Tl;DR the Valkyrie is a better boss killer than the Fury could ever hope to be.
.

Any class that concentrates on shooting is a better killer than any power spammer. Sad fact.

Tell us all how mad that makes you.

We'd love to hear it again.

You seem to have confused two words of the English language. Sad does not equal mad. There are online dictionaries you can refer to if you are confused about the words.

QQ moar then.

Relix28 wrote...

I would appreciate it, if you could find for that post.

Scroll up, Zjarcal posted a link to Eric Fagnan's quote on the same page.

Turns out I was wrong about the AF radius.

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 26 octobre 2012 - 11:44 .

[Zero132132]

Why is it that when I said this, people kept saying dumb **** about how they had the most similar skillset in the game, and aiming for weapon damage over/as well as BEs was a mistake?

[Kingston Atticus]

Right after unlocking my Valkeyrie Wednesday I jumped into a pug with another Valkyrie and 2 Furies. It was a Cerb/random/gold Everything seemed to die VERY quickly will all 4 of us running in a grou. Not sure how the other 3 were specced but I tooka 6/5/5/5/5. taking radius/damage taken/drain in Af, Detonate/expose in warp, durability/power in TA, damage and capacity/power in Valkyrie and Durability/shield recharge in fitness.

[Black Phantom]

Rebel_Raven wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Tl;DR the Valkyrie is a better boss killer than the Fury could ever hope to be.
.

Any class that concentrates on shooting is a better killer than any power spammer. Sad fact.

Tell us all how mad that makes you.

We'd love to hear it again.

If it weren't true, he'd not be upset about it.

And if he wasn't trying to derail my thread with the same QQ he posts in every thread that vaguely references a power or weapon, maybe I'd be inclined to care.

But probably not.