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Why the Asari Valkyrie should not be played like the N7 Fury. (now with more bad quality pictures!)


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sareth_65536

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Ashen Earth wrote...

sareth_65536 wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...
You're missing the point.

lol no. All I'm saying is that if you use anything but reegar, it won't be THAT strong. Still very good and far better than any caster, but forget about killing a boss in less than 12-15 seconds


You're wrong.

I've 1 clipped post-buff Brutes with the Piranha after the debuff BE (but it doesn't actually take the whole clip) and gotten great results with the Raider, Graal, Harrier, Hurricane, Wraith, and Claymore.

The Reegar kills enemies faster than any of those weapons, but the difference is not as significant as you think. You're looking at a combination of different things, not just the Reegar Carbine.

can you make a vid? I'll try tomorrow (had almost this build anyway, but used talon), but just to be sure I didn't miss something.
Use incendiary if you want

Modifié par sareth_65536, 27 octobre 2012 - 12:34 .


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Ashen Earth wrote...

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Hey Ashen, if you don't have many cyclonic modulators would you recommend any changes to the build or simply play with more awareness?


Power Amplifier IV and the DoT from Annihilation Field gets kind of ridiculous.

You'll have to be more careful when dealing with bosses though.

Thanks for the info.:D

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Hey, Ashen could you do this type of thing with the rest of the new characters when they come out, because i want to see how you play the Geth Soldier or one the new Batarians.

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Lol I did not know this character existed until I read this post. My very next PSP unlocked her. Great spec as usually from a good player.

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Why I will continue to play the Asari Valkyrie like a tankier fury despite OP's wall of text:

because it works really well

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sclera wrote...

Why I will continue to play the Asari Valkyrie like a tankier fury despite OP's wall of text:

because it works really well


What's your tanking build?

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Gamescook wrote...

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Why I will continue to play the Asari Valkyrie like a tankier fury despite OP's wall of text:

because it works really well


What's your tanking build?


http://narida.pytalh...9@0EEIFN4L4@0@0

I'll mention that I'm sure OP's strategy probably works great, but using a word like "should" when referring to building an ME3 character is sketchy territory. 

So the idea isn't to run into a group of troopers and spam Warp. What you should be doing is running towards Scions, Praetorians, Atlases, Geth Primes, Brutes, and Ravagers, double debuffing them and then outright killing them before they become a threat.

This I can agree with - you have the survivability to get right in the face of all the big guys. I just BE them rather than debuff them.

Modifié par sclera, 27 octobre 2012 - 12:49 .


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Piranha + heavy barrel, smart choke and either warp or incendiary ammo works great on this. Not as good as the fury at nuking mooks but a great boss killer.

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I like this idea. I prefer hit-and-run attacks with AF to let Warp recharge. I suppose I could still do that anyway.

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As an aside - I've not read all the responses so someone may well have mentioned this - one other point that the Valkyrie has over the Fury... unlike Throw, Warp is a primer as well as a detonator so you can chuck a warp at something that's a long, long way away and by the time you've closed with it you'll be out of cooldown and you can detonate your AF - which will detonate the BE you've primed with Warp.

That's actually turned out far more useful than I'd have ever thought it would.

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sclera wrote...

This I can agree with - you have the survivability to get right in the face of all the big guys. I just BE them rather than debuff them.

Actually, you are debuffing them by making a BE.  Warp will debuff because you cast it, and AF will debuff while it is within your field's radius.

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Reegar carbine is for girls. No other observations.

I will never use the reegar, it's like playing an infiltrator.... it feels like I'm cheating because its so easy mode.

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Jack Crapper wrote...

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This I can agree with - you have the survivability to get right in the face of all the big guys. I just BE them rather than debuff them.

Actually, you are debuffing them by making a BE.  Warp will debuff because you cast it, and AF will debuff while it is within your field's radius.

I didn't choose expose on my warp though.

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That build looks interesting, sclera. Taking the 4a damage evolution for AField just resulted in me missing my targets while trying to detonate Warp. I would end up just shoving my arm right past the sides of their head instead of actually AT their heads, so maybe I'll tweak it for radius instead.

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Chealec wrote...

As an aside - I've not read all the responses so someone may well have mentioned this - one other point that the Valkyrie has over the Fury... unlike Throw, Warp is a primer as well as a detonator so you can chuck a warp at something that's a long, long way away and by the time you've closed with it you'll be out of cooldown and you can detonate your AF - which will detonate the BE you've primed with Warp.

That's actually turned out far more useful than I'd have ever thought it would.

This is true, and it may be applicable if the target is in a group you want to stagger, but having AF up is invaluable for both draining shields, quick priming, and debuffing.  If your cooldown is already done, and the enemy is a single target within range to detonate AF, that means they are also in range for AF to prime, and you can simply cast Warp to detonate since your coodlown is done.

Why miss out on double debuff?  I think that's what I'm going to rename my Valkyrie

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sclera wrote...

Jack Crapper wrote...

sclera wrote...

This I can agree with - you have the survivability to get right in the face of all the big guys. I just BE them rather than debuff them.

Actually, you are debuffing them by making a BE.  Warp will debuff because you cast it, and AF will debuff while it is within your field's radius.

I didn't choose expose on my warp though.

My apologies.  I don't have access to Naridia at work.

I'm surprised you didn't spec into Expose?  What is your reasoning?

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Jack Crapper wrote...

sclera wrote...

Jack Crapper wrote...

sclera wrote...

This I can agree with - you have the survivability to get right in the face of all the big guys. I just BE them rather than debuff them.

Actually, you are debuffing them by making a BE.  Warp will debuff because you cast it, and AF will debuff while it is within your field's radius.

I didn't choose expose on my warp though.

My apologies.  I don't have access to Naridia at work.

I'm surprised you didn't spec into Expose?  What is your reasoning?


I liked the idea of the raw damage better, since I had mook and mid-tier enemies in mind when creating the build, which would barely benefit from the debuff. 

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Who can't do that with a Reegar?

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T41rdEye

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Thanks Ashen, ever since I saw this kit its screamed CLAYMORE boss killer to me. Hopefully I can manage the CDs. I love debuff powers.

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Nice build, I ran it against Reapers and was killing everything until I got disconnected on wave 9. :crying:

Much better than the mini-Fury build I was running before.

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Bumping cause I wanna read this tomorow... :-p

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Moxy_Pirate

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OP is correct and it should have been a no brainer. I specced my Valkyrie the same way with Shot gun amps and warp ammo. Then you get to watch everything melt.

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llandwynwyn wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Observe.

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*inb4 complaints about the image quality


I honestly have no idea what is happening there...but, anyway, IA.

I tried to play her like the Fury and failed hard, she isn't meant to be a Fury v2.


Its a banshee with warp and AF getting destroyed by a reager carbine.

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sy7ar wrote...

Who can't do that with a Reegar?


>Implying another caster class not specced into rank 4 weapon damage, lacking a debuff ability and using the exact same setup as I used in the clip will kill a Banshee from full Barrier in about 6-7 seconds

You're missing the point, which believe it or not has very little to do with the Reegar Carbine.


M1A2 Abrams Tank wrote...

Hey, Ashen could you do this
type of thing with the rest of the new characters when they come out,
because i want to see how you play the Geth Soldier or one the new
Batarians.


Maybe, I'm not really sure at this point. the Geth Soldier is a no-brainer, but then again so was the Valkyrie imo. I'll be disappointed if BSN can't connect the dots with the new Geth or Batarians.

X-Frame wrote...

Ashen,

Does your Rank 4 for AF
change now that you know Radius increases the radius of the field, or
would you still prefer Damage?


Yeah, that changes everything. I wish I had known about that sooner.

sareth_65536 wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

You're wrong.

I've
1 clipped post-buff Brutes with the Piranha after the debuff BE (but it
doesn't actually take the whole clip) and gotten great results with the
Raider, Graal, Harrier, Hurricane, Wraith, and Claymore.

The
Reegar kills enemies faster than any of those weapons, but the
difference is not as significant as you think. You're looking at a
combination of different things, not just the Reegar Carbine.

can
you make a vid? I'll try tomorrow (had almost this build anyway, but
used talon), but just to be sure I didn't miss something.
Use incendiary if you want


Possibly. No promises to go out of my way to prove a point to some random naysayer though.

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 27 octobre 2012 - 06:33 .


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I've been using her like you said Ashen since i got her, she just wrecks everything in her path, and the things she doesn't kill with BE's, dies from some good piranha shots.