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[L. Han]

Just wondering how good would unarmed combat be if it was implemented. Maybe have a bar brawl or a duel with one of your companions. Why? I don't know, for cheap laughs.


Just a wild thought, opinions?

[Bfler]

You mean like the fist fights in the taverns in Witcher?

[Sharn01]

I could get behind unarmed combat being used for story purposes where appropriate.

[L. Han]

Bfler wrote...

You mean like the fist fights in the taverns in Witcher?

I never played the Witcher, but I got this idea from KOTOR2. I remember a part where there was a large group of civilians protesting against the queen and they start to fight each other in unarmed combat. It was hilarious. 

[DeathScepter]

Unarmed Combat should supplement each tree.

A Duel Wielder will fight unarmed differently than a Two hander.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Maybe as a monk spec for the warrior? (There's an Origins mod that makes it available for the mage, but that sounds overpowered...)

[MichaelStuart]

I think every class should be able to punch/kick/grapple enemies.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Especially kick.

[L. Han]

DeathScepter wrote...

Unarmed Combat should supplement each tree.

A Duel Wielder will fight unarmed differently than a Two hander.

That might be a little too much.

[DeathScepter]

Rickets wrote...

DeathScepter wrote...

Unarmed Combat should supplement each tree.

A Duel Wielder will fight unarmed differently than a Two hander.

That might be a little too much.

true.

Taijutsu(as a martial art concept): Foundation of Taijutsu is unarmed combat but Taijutsu's Unarmed Combat Skills will always supplement Any Weapons that a Taijutsu practitioner carries. So In short there is no such thing as a Pure Unarmed Martial Art or A Pure Weapon Martial Art. 

[MillKill]

Unless they use it as a complete style with it's own weapon tree, it seems like a waste of time trying to implement.

[DeathScepter]

MillKill wrote...

Unless they use it as a complete style with it's own weapon tree, it seems like a waste of time trying to implement.

there is nothing wrong with that.

[DeathScepter]

going off MillKill's idea, 1 iconic weapon/unarmed style for each class.

[DeathScepter]

If not Monk Skill Tree, at least an martial art that can have good synergy with other talent trees within that class.

[Sylvius the Mad]

We had unarmed combat in DAO. I'd certainly like to see it back.

[DeathScepter]

Sylvius, This thread is more about refinement of Unarmed combat while making it unique to all classes.

Rogues will fight different from Warriors and Mages. Of course Warriors will be different from Rogues and Mages. And Mages will fight different from Rogues and Warriors.

For example:

Warriors: Hung Gar Kung Fu

Rogue: Taijutsu

Mage: Tai Chi Chuan

[Giant ambush beetle]

Good luck with fighting knights in plate mail who are carrying swords and lances with your bare fists and feet. If you even get close enough to touch your opponents (swords have range you know) you're going to break your wrists and legs before getting your head cut off by a two handed sword.

[Pzykozis]

I'd just be happy to have proper supported unarmed combat, Sylvius sure you could punch people but.. uh that wasn't really supported by the game.

@Woldan, good luck trying to throw fireballs I mean y'know.

Modifié par Pzykozis, 29 octobre 2012 - 05:10 .

[MillKill]

I think it might work best as a mage tree as an alternative to staffs.

That way, you could have various elemental punches and kicks and mages giving their attacks extra kinetic energy with magic.

I don't think I'd want to see it for every class. I'd rather they all got distinct weapons styles.

Modifié par MillKill, 29 octobre 2012 - 05:35 .

[Sylvius the Mad]

DeathScepter wrote...

Sylvius, This thread is more about refinement of Unarmed combat while making it unique to all classes.

Rogues will fight different from Warriors and Mages. Of course Warriors will be different from Rogues and Mages. And Mages will fight different from Rogues and Warriors.

That seems like both a waste of developoment resources (unless unarmed combat was the point of the game), and an unnecessary pigeon-holing of characters by class.

If there were different unarmed styles, I would be very annoyed that my mage could only use the one for mages, or that my warrior could only use the warrior style.

I would accept stat-limiting combat styles (just as many weapons are stat-limited), but restricting combat-styles by class is not something I would support.  Unless there was some magical aspect to the mage style - that sort of restriction would make sense.

Just as combat roles should not be enforced by class, nor should combat styles.  In DAO, any character class could use any melee combat style.  That's the only standard I will accept.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Sure, you bring your fists and I'll bring my sword. Lets see who wins, okay?

[Sylvius the Mad]

Pzykozis wrote...

I'd just be happy to have proper supported unarmed combat, Sylvius sure you could punch people but.. uh that wasn't really supported by the game.

It was almost mandatory in the mage origin.

[Sylvius the Mad]

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Sure, you bring your fists and I'll bring my sword. Lets see who wins, okay?

AD&D handled this well.  Armed attacks on unarmed foes had a big To Hit bonus.  I'd expect something similar.

[DeathScepter]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

DeathScepter wrote...

Sylvius, This thread is more about refinement of Unarmed combat while making it unique to all classes.

Rogues will fight different from Warriors and Mages. Of course Warriors will be different from Rogues and Mages. And Mages will fight different from Rogues and Warriors.

That seems like both a waste of developoment resources (unless unarmed combat was the point of the game), and an unnecessary pigeon-holing of characters by class.

If there were different unarmed styles, I would be very annoyed that my mage could only use the one for mages, or that my warrior could only use the warrior style.

I would accept stat-limiting combat styles (just as many weapons are stat-limited), but restricting combat-styles by class is not something I would support.  Unless there was some magical aspect to the mage style - that sort of restriction would make sense.

Just as combat roles should not be enforced by class, nor should combat styles.  In DAO, any character class could use any melee combat style.  That's the only standard I will accept.

I do agree with you on many points. Mage style will use a lot of magic to supplement both Unarmed and Weapons.

Unarmed Martial arts regardless how they are done will supplement all weapons styles a great deal. 

Basicly having good synergy to  two unrelated weapons systems and still have viable character