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Arcian wrote...

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We can have everything that is a benefit of Synthesis without forcibly changing everyone.


Wasn't changing everyone the point?<_<

To Super MAC, yes. He wanted to have an ending as great as the Helios ending of DX:Invisible War. You know, that Deus Ex sequel which was never made?

Everything Synthesis does, Destroy and Control can achieve with time and without resorting to mass augmentations. The reason why EDI and the geth die in Destroy is because if they didn't, there would be no reasons at all to choose Synthesis. NONE.

All hail Super MAC, the First of His Name, His Holiest Grand Artist, the Master of the Royal Pen, Vanquisher of Franchises and Steward of the Province of Margarita.

Actually, DE:IW was made. But it requires such a specific hardware set that I couldn't play it when it was released. And funnily enough years on when the hardwares gotten alot better I still can't play it. Though I have gotten to the loading screen before it freezes.

...........IW is dead to me.

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What? Why is everyone going negative on this idea? Put the ugliness of morality behind you. Focus on the benefits!

The only problem with the Synthesis ending was that Bioware screwed up. If you look at the platform area behind where Shepard was it is identical to where Shepard and Anderson were sitting. The elevator was only symbolic. There really was no elevator. So what happened to Anderson? Oh, Bioware did their famous "disintegrate corpse" thing. If they hadn't and left the corpse there, you would have had a perfectly fresh corpse to throw into the beam. Shepard would have survived, and no sacrifice would have been needed. There would have been no need to "taint" the Destroy ending with the destruction of the Geth.

Control would have still been dead last on the list. Who wants to preside over an army like that for a billion years and have no fun with it. It's basically the no fun ending.

If you could destroy the reapers without destroying the Geth, but have to rebuild all that stuff, you'd have your civilization in the crapper for a while, but you could rebuild. It would take a few hundred years. And you could survive the ending.

But with Synthesis. If you could survive the ending, and get all these great features and benefits out of it, and all that knowledge of those past civilizations, just think! Now put all that morality about rewriting everyone's brain and DNA with Anderson's aside ... it doesn't exist. La la la la la. The entire galaxy able to communicate without misunderstanding down to the lowest vorcha to the mightiest reaper.

But no, they had to taint this ending with Shepard's death all because they didn't want to leave Anderson's corpse on the platform, and they didn't think any player would even think of tossing their friend and mentor's 5 minute old corpse into a green beam to save their own hide.

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Seival wrote...


My new banner is nice indeed, and I'm not a troll.

I just reached the final stage of ME understanding. ME universe is awesome, and Synthesis is the best way to expand it.


Sounds more like the shock of the ending caused you to go mad.

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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

What? Why is everyone going negative on this idea? Put the ugliness of morality behind you. Focus on the benefits!

The only problem with the Synthesis ending was that Bioware screwed up. If you look at the platform area behind where Shepard was it is identical to where Shepard and Anderson were sitting. The elevator was only symbolic. There really was no elevator. So what happened to Anderson? Oh, Bioware did their famous "disintegrate corpse" thing. If they hadn't and left the corpse there, you would have had a perfectly fresh corpse to throw into the beam. Shepard would have survived, and no sacrifice would have been needed. There would have been no need to "taint" the Destroy ending with the destruction of the Geth.

Control would have still been dead last on the list. Who wants to preside over an army like that for a billion years and have no fun with it. It's basically the no fun ending.

If you could destroy the reapers without destroying the Geth, but have to rebuild all that stuff, you'd have your civilization in the crapper for a while, but you could rebuild. It would take a few hundred years. And you could survive the ending.

But with Synthesis. If you could survive the ending, and get all these great features and benefits out of it, and all that knowledge of those past civilizations, just think! Now put all that morality about rewriting everyone's brain and DNA with Anderson's aside ... it doesn't exist. La la la la la. The entire galaxy able to communicate without misunderstanding down to the lowest vorcha to the mightiest reaper.

But no, they had to taint this ending with Shepard's death all because they didn't want to leave Anderson's corpse on the platform, and they didn't think any player would even think of tossing their friend and mentor's 5 minute old corpse into a green beam to save their own hide.


Take the blue pill,
you'll wake up in bed and believe
whatever you want to believe.
Takes the red pill,
you stay in Wonderland
and will see how deep the rabbit hole goes.

Take the Green pill.............. Have you seen that movie where ppl become infected by worms and melt into each other. It'll be alot like that. And we'll conquer the world AND make the human race extinct. Look, just take the green pill. If you don't you always wonder what would have happened if you did.

The moral of the story? Say no to dudes with sunglasses who offer you pills, and the glowing dead child who offers you preety colours.

(note) if you have encountered the glowing dead child then you have either said yes to the pills by the man in sunglasses, or you are playing Mass Effect 3. Either way, brace for the enevitable crash by holding onto your forgotten childhood teddy bear and wait til the shivering stops.

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A Bethesda Fan wrote...


Seival wrote...


My new banner is nice indeed, and I'm not a troll.

I just reached the final stage of ME understanding. ME universe is awesome, and Synthesis is the best way to expand it.


Sounds more like the shock of the ending caused you to go mad.


It's the new IT for some synthesizers.  No, not a slam at indoctrination, but rather the systematic true life indoctrination of a few unchallenging minds (impressionable) that don't want to appear stupid, so they say the endings are brilliant.  It's for those who now believe they have already undergone the tech integration and so their Stepford Wive's like minds can now only offer repeated calls for everyone to join the sameness.  Be afraid, be very afraid.

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I object to synthesis in ME universe because of how the subject was handled in Overlord. There it was plain to see how the enforced ability to network synthetics and organics affected David Archer. I imagine his pain would be the default experience for all minds in the galaxy in synthesis.

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I object to synthesis in ME universe because of how the subject was handled in Overlord. There it was plain to see how the enforced ability to network synthetics and organics affected David Archer. I imagine his pain would be the default experience for all minds in the galaxy in synthesis.


Overlord and Synthesis are completely different concepts.

Synthesis is about changing everyone on atomic level as the next major step of evolution.

Overlord is about a barbaric and primitive way to link living human brain to an AI, which has nothing to do with evolution. It was just an attempt to make an advanced hacking device (which would work only against Geth), nothing more...

...And don't tell me about green eyes, this is just silly. In "From Ashes" Shepard also has green eyes. And this have nothing to do with Synthesis or Overlord.

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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

What? Why is everyone going negative on this idea? Put the ugliness of morality behind you. Focus on the benefits!

The only problem with the Synthesis ending was that Bioware screwed up. If you look at the platform area behind where Shepard was it is identical to where Shepard and Anderson were sitting. The elevator was only symbolic. There really was no elevator. So what happened to Anderson? Oh, Bioware did their famous "disintegrate corpse" thing. If they hadn't and left the corpse there, you would have had a perfectly fresh corpse to throw into the beam. Shepard would have survived, and no sacrifice would have been needed. There would have been no need to "taint" the Destroy ending with the destruction of the Geth.

Control would have still been dead last on the list. Who wants to preside over an army like that for a billion years and have no fun with it. It's basically the no fun ending.

If you could destroy the reapers without destroying the Geth, but have to rebuild all that stuff, you'd have your civilization in the crapper for a while, but you could rebuild. It would take a few hundred years. And you could survive the ending.

But with Synthesis. If you could survive the ending, and get all these great features and benefits out of it, and all that knowledge of those past civilizations, just think! Now put all that morality about rewriting everyone's brain and DNA with Anderson's aside ... it doesn't exist. La la la la la. The entire galaxy able to communicate without misunderstanding down to the lowest vorcha to the mightiest reaper.

But no, they had to taint this ending with Shepard's death all because they didn't want to leave Anderson's corpse on the platform, and they didn't think any player would even think of tossing their friend and mentor's 5 minute old corpse into a green beam to save their own hide.


Achieving Synthesis, that's not that hard part; it's letting go.

[It's a video game, after all]

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It's the better of the 4 options. Which is like saying Transformers 3 was better than Transformers 2, i.e; It says very little.

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That's not evolution though, that's eugenics.

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008Zulu wrote...

It's the better of the 4 options. Which is like saying Transformers 3 was better than Transformers 2, i.e; It says very little.

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Seival wrote...

I just reached the final stage of ME understanding. ME universe is awesome, and Synthesis is the best way to expand it.


You make the Mass Effect experience sound like the stages of grief. It's pretty sad actually..

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Seival wrote...

I just reached the final stage of ME understanding. ME universe is awesome, and Synthesis is the best way to expand it.


You make the Mass Effect experience sound like the stages of grief. It's pretty sad actually..


Sometimes he scares me because he sounds cultish

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Praise the Lord Sovereign!

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nope.

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Seival wrote...

Synthesis is about changing everyone on atomic level as the next major step of evolution.


Finn the Jakey wrote...

That's not evolution though, that's eugenics.


This^ I suggest you look at the definition of evolution Seival.

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

The
only problem with the Synthesis ending was that Bioware screwed up. If
you look at the platform area behind where Shepard was it is identical
to where Shepard and Anderson were sitting. The elevator was only
symbolic. There really was no elevator. So what happened to Anderson?
Oh, Bioware did their famous "disintegrate corpse" thing. If they hadn't
and left the corpse there, you would have had a perfectly fresh corpse
to throw into the beam.


Firstly, what? How is it the same area at all?

Secondly, I see the argument of throwing someone elses body into the Synthesis beam made a lot. But that's not how it works. If you did the Synthesis beam would take Anderson's DNA and spread that. Which would probably cause the Galaxy to turn black. (Can't say African-American because he was born in London).

Shepard's DNA only works because they are already a cyborg. Kind of...

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"Synthesis is the way of the future, synthesis with the reapers, and with the pondscum if necessary"

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Seival wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I really think this idea is great. Imagine having the strengths of both organic and machine and the weaknesses of neither. I've been setting up a computer network for the past six weeks and have been coming up with all these little changes I want to make on the fly. It dawned on me today how much easier this would be if synthesis were real. I could personally interface with the network and just think it and the network would understand and align itself to my thought patterns. Wow. I wouldn't have had all the trouble getting all these contraptions working, and I wouldn't have had all the licensing issues with the companies because the computers and I could have communicated directly and talked things out rather than having to go through the people who were constantly making mistakes.

And then speaking of the people, we wouldn't have had to worry about the language barriers either since I could communicate digitally with them by thought. So that would eliminate a lot of problems right there.

I really hope Bioware makes Synthesis canon for the next Mass Effect game. It would be a wonder utopia.  :wizard:


Yes, Synthesis is the best way to expand ME lore. Just imagine the possibilities, and keep in mind reserved Dark Energy Plot :)

... And actually there is a way to make Synthesis inevitable without making any ME3 ending canon:
http://social.biowar.../index/13740862


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Synthesis is bad. The Reapers' entire motivation is pure evil. The endless war with synthetics is the war organics deserve. Imagine the carnage -- glorious!

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Seival wrote...

My new banner is nice indeed, and I'm not a troll.

I just reached the final stage of ME understanding. ME universe is awesome, and Synthesis is the best way to expand it.


......



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Gahh Why couldn't I see it before. Seival is role-playing as an indoctrinated BSN user.

It's soo ingenious. I mean seriously think how much fun that would be.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Gahh Why couldn't I see it before. Seival is role-playing as an indoctrinated BSN user.

It's soo ingenious. I mean seriously think how much fun that would be.


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What if you're indoctrinated? Image IPB


I'm indoctrinated? You're indoctrinated.  This whole forum's indoctrinated!

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Synthesis is about changing everyone on atomic level as the next major step of evolution.


Finn the Jakey wrote...

That's not evolution though, that's eugenics.


This^ I suggest you look at the definition of evolution Seival.

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

The
only problem with the Synthesis ending was that Bioware screwed up. If
you look at the platform area behind where Shepard was it is identical
to where Shepard and Anderson were sitting. The elevator was only
symbolic. There really was no elevator. So what happened to Anderson?
Oh, Bioware did their famous "disintegrate corpse" thing. If they hadn't
and left the corpse there, you would have had a perfectly fresh corpse
to throw into the beam.


Firstly, what? How is it the same area at all?

Secondly, I see the argument of throwing someone elses body into the Synthesis beam made a lot. But that's not how it works. If you did the Synthesis beam would take Anderson's DNA and spread that. Which would probably cause the Galaxy to turn black. (Can't say African-American because he was born in London).

Shepard's DNA only works because they are already a cyborg. Kind of...


Yay! A reason not to throw Anderson's body into the beam. And one that makes sense too!

But now I' curious. So what would have happened if you threw a Keeper into the beam?

More arms maybe? Cause who hasn't at some point thought, ' I need another pair of hands'.

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 It's sliced alright.
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