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[Nashimura]

Orlais is meant to be the most fashionable country in Thedas according to Leliana, so maybe we will see an improvement in that area - or maybe just silly hats and SHOES!!!!! who knows...

[Foolsfolly]

Icesong wrote...

I hated having to wear a dress with Shepard.

It doesn't help that the dresses aren't that good looking anyway. Of course the best clothing option in the ME series (in my opinion, obviously) is the leather jacket for MaleShepard.

Nothing else came close. The worst looking one is that weird 1980s looking orange vest thing. Although Shepard's tux from Stolen Memory was really lazy since it was the captain's uniform recolored. When I heard you'd get a tux I thought something  similar to the Illusive Man's great looking suit.

....I liked Isolde's dress.

[Foolsfolly]

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

Nashimura wrote...

Look how Tallis looks right next to you, why couldnt bioware get something like that....if they didnt want a dress.

Very true.

Hope no one is offended by my snarkiness toward some of femHawke's clothes. I'm a fashion snob IRL, that's all. I understand that video game developers don't really give a crap about that, though. 

I'm sure many of them don't. But I'd assume that the concept artists hired to come up with clothing have at least a passing interest in fashion.

It'll be kind of important with the setting in Orlais.

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

Nashimura wrote...

Look how Tallis looks right next to you, why couldnt bioware get something like that....if they didnt want a dress.

Very true.

Hope no one is offended by my snarkiness toward some of femHawke's clothes. I'm a fashion snob IRL, that's all. I understand that video game developers don't really give a crap about that, though. 

That kind of generalization might get you into trouble with said game devs 

Eidos gives plenty of craps about fashion.

Personally I thought the outfit just looked... uncomfortable and less flattering than it could have been. But it wasn't awful [compared to DAO noble outfits gah]

@Foolsfolly, most concept artists are expected to be able to design characters, which calls for at least a basic understanding of how clothing works, fits, and flatters.

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 27 octobre 2012 - 05:54 .

[daffl5]

totally agree with this

[Nashimura]

Deus Ex was just a stylish game all round, i loved the look of just about everything. Bioware could do with some artists like that.

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...
All that stuff looks awesome - so what happened in DA2? Everything got lost in translation? 

Dragon Age doesn't use haute couture as reference... and why would it?

Nashimura wrote...

Deus Ex was just a stylish game all
round, i loved the look of just about everything. Bioware could do with
some artists like that.

I know I'm the one who brought it up but it's probably not productive to compare DA and DXHR. Drastically different art goals between those games. My only point was that game devs not giving a crap about fashion is a weird myth.

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 27 octobre 2012 - 06:00 .

[wsandista]

A Male PC should be able to dress like this.

http://t1.gstatic.co...Jl0L1NzIO1d90TQ

Modifié par wsandista, 27 octobre 2012 - 06:02 .

[Nashimura]

Pseudocognition wrote...
I know I'm the one who brought it up but it's probably not productive to compare DA and DXHR. Drastically different art goals between those games. My only point was that game devs not giving a crap about fashion is a weird myth.

I know, its just an area i always thought Bioware were a little bland in all there games bar Jade Empire and DA2. They tend to go pretty safe, HR took some risks and it paid off - compare that to say Mass Effect or TOR not bad looking games but nothing really stands out either.

DA2 wasnt so safe, they went for something different and the city looked great but it there was a few missteps at the same time and if you look at the companions they were going for a certain style and unique look, so they are improving.

Modifié par Nashimura, 27 octobre 2012 - 06:08 .

[Palipride47]

motomotogirl wrote...

Harle Cerulean wrote...

I suppose I could get behind having the option of a dress in DA3, provided two things: 1) there was also the option of pants, and 2) the male PC would also have the option to wear a dress. Some of my m!Hawkes would have been delighted to show up to Duke Prosper's in ruffles.

Nice LOL Was going to post the exact same thing.

FYI I never wear dresses. When invited to fancy parties, you're lucky I show up in trousers instead of jeans. Oh, and wait for................. I'm female.

GASP, I know.

Ha, you and me both! I have not worn a skirt in 6 years.


On a serious note, I liked Tallis's. But I'm not going to look to Bioware to design "nice" clothing. Though some of that DLC armor looks, frankly, awesome. Too bad you have to pay extra to not look like you are wearing a dead raccoon around your neck. 

[FINE HERE]

Palipride47 wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Harle Cerulean wrote...

I suppose I could get behind having the option of a dress in DA3, provided two things: 1) there was also the option of pants, and 2) the male PC would also have the option to wear a dress. Some of my m!Hawkes would have been delighted to show up to Duke Prosper's in ruffles.

Nice LOL Was going to post the exact same thing.

FYI I never wear dresses. When invited to fancy parties, you're lucky I show up in trousers instead of jeans. Oh, and wait for................. I'm female.

GASP, I know.

Ha, you and me both! I have not worn a skirt in 6 years.


On a serious note, I liked Tallis's. But I'm not going to look to Bioware to design "nice" clothing. Though some of that DLC armor looks, frankly, awesome. Too bad you have to pay extra to not look like you are wearing a dead raccoon around your neck. 

I only wear skirts or dresses to parties, but to each their own.

I would at least like the option to chose whether we show up in a dress or in pants. Talis's outfit is much better than Hawke's in my opinion, and considering that mage Hawke ran around in robes half the time, it makes no sense why she couldn't wear a dress to the party... Or sneak around in one.

[TobiTobsen]

If we're in Orlais I want to see ridiculous fashion trends! Like that living bird hairstyle Leliana talked about!

I would love at least one party with absolutely outrageous hair and clothes and my Inquisitor right in the middle of it! When in Orlais...

Modifié par TobiTobsen, 27 octobre 2012 - 06:19 .

[CuriousArtemis]

Palipride47 wrote...

Ha, you and me both! I have not worn a skirt in 6 years.


On a serious note, I liked Tallis's.

Tomboys unite! 

Yeah, Tallis' was nice. Too bad you can't take that outfit and put it on, say, Merrill  *mumbles about Tallis and her stupid uni-body model*

I really feel for the devs on this one. They didn't want to dress FemHawke differently because feminists (LIKE MYSELF) would have been annoyed and called them out on gender conformity. I would have been PO'ed to have my Hawke show up in a dress. Like, really? Oh really, BW. Just because my Hawke has boobs and a va-jay-jay, she has to wear a dress and slippers and ribbons in her hair? Really.

I'm all for options, though. Again, so long as male Hawke gets the same option 

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...
All that stuff looks awesome - so what happened in DA2? Everything got lost in translation? 

Dragon Age doesn't use haute couture as reference... and why would it?

Why shouldn't it? Especially in Orlais.

Because couture represents the most current technology and indulgent, time-consuming techniques to achieve an artistic end rather than a practical one. I could see select characters having a high-fashion inspiration, like Celene, but for the series overall or even for wandering NPCs? No.

You don't need explicit fashion reference to achieve something attractive. Good proportions, ensuring fabric looks and behaves like fabric, appropriate closures/fasteners, smart color choices, and a flattering fit are the most important. Some outfits in DA suck at if not outright fail in some of these areas. Looking at high fashion for inspiration isn't going to help if one does not understand the fundamentals.

/fashionsnob

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 27 octobre 2012 - 06:25 .

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

...or they felt it'd be more efficient to cut and paste from the male model to the female model and reuse parts of the UV map instead of designing and modeling a completely different outfit...

[CuriousArtemis]

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Palipride47 wrote...

Ha, you and me both! I have not worn a skirt in 6 years.


On a serious note, I liked Tallis's.

 They didn't want to dress FemHawke differently because feminists (LIKE MYSELF) would have been annoyed and called them out on gender conformity. I would have been PO'ed to have my Hawke show up in a dress. Like, really? Oh really, BW. Just because my Hawke has boobs and a va-jay-jay, she has to wear a dress and slippers and ribbons in her hair? Really.

I'm all for options, though. Again, so long as male Hawke gets the same option 

I'm a feminist as well, but I choose to dress in a feminine way. That's what feminism is about - choices. One can wear heels, lipstick, and dresses and still  be all for women's rights.

Restricting us to tomboy clothing is no more fair than restricting us to dresses. So, truthfully, all Bioware did in DA2 was push us from one extreme to another. Still unfair. 

True, which is why I said I support choice 

But it IS more grating to assume female characters should dress in a feminine manner than putting them in the same clothes as male characters. At least the latter is a noble attempt at gender deviance.

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

Anyway regarding OP, unless Frostbite provides some shortcuts to making clothing more appealing and natural than the stretchy tube skirts marring the fashion-scape of the DA-verse, I vote for no long dresses at all. Dishonored did away with dresses and skirts entirely for whatever reason and the result is that no one's eyes are seared by stiff rubbery physics-blind umbrella skirts.

[Nashimura]

motomotogirl wrote...

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Palipride47 wrote...

Ha, you and me both! I have not worn a skirt in 6 years.


On a serious note, I liked Tallis's.

 They didn't want to dress FemHawke differently because feminists (LIKE MYSELF) would have been annoyed and called them out on gender conformity. I would have been PO'ed to have my Hawke show up in a dress. Like, really? Oh really, BW. Just because my Hawke has boobs and a va-jay-jay, she has to wear a dress and slippers and ribbons in her hair? Really.

I'm all for options, though. Again, so long as male Hawke gets the same option 

I'm a feminist as well, but I choose to dress in a feminine way. That's what feminism is about - choices. One can wear heels, lipstick, and dresses and still  be all for women's rights.

Restricting us to tomboy clothing is no more fair than restricting us to dresses. So, truthfully, all Bioware did in DA2 was push us from one extreme to another. Still unfair. 

True, which is why I said I support choice 

But it IS more grating to assume female characters should dress in a feminine manner than putting them in the same clothes as male characters. At least the latter is a noble attempt at gender deviance.

Na they were just slacking off with it, there were no intentions.

They would of come up with something better if that were the case. Plus i dont think there is any feminist issue here, Hawke was there to play a part and if wearing a dress was part of playing the part you would be offended? 

Like Shepard in the ME DLC, she was trying to blend into that crowd, it wasnt her showing off her choice of outfit....it was an attempt at espionage.

Modifié par Nashimura, 27 octobre 2012 - 06:35 .

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

So Hawke isn't female unless the devs dress her to your standard of femininity?

I'm going to leave this thread now.