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[Zazzerka]

@Seifer
Your threads are very thinly disguised hate threads. Instead of making a thread called. "Would you support a DLC that allows you to sacrifice a squadmate," you call it "If Liara Could Be Killed in a Future DLC, Would Fans Want This?"

There's no need to mention Liara in that thread title.

Modifié par GT Zazzerka, 27 octobre 2012 - 07:32 .

[Seifer006]

GT Zazzerka wrote...

@Seifer
 "Would you support a DLC that allows you to sacrifice a squadmate

That's a very good idea.

[Zazzerka]

Then call your thread that.

[Terravas]

Zakuspec089 wrote...

I think people should give more respect to Liara T'Soni because Liara helped out the team greatly in the Mass Effect Trilogy. Liara even protected and searched for Shepard. Liara were going to help bring Shepard back but Cerberous did when Liara rescued Shepard. We all know Liara, Garrus, Tali had the biggest fan basis then the other characters. It wasn't stupid Cerberous and Miranda that bought Shepard back. Liara T'Soni did. {It was in the comics, mentioned in game.} Sorry for the ranting but it true.

I been seeing alot of people hating on Liara T'Soni. I don't think people fully understands what Liara T'Soni and Shepard been through even when Shepard were dead. The players had the choice not to Romance or interact with Liara or the other characters. They had the option to ignore them. The character isn't forced on you unless you wanted it to be. I don't like seeing topics about Killing Off Liara or other known characters. Liara is the one who bought and rescued Shepard and cared for Shepard the most then the other characters. We all know BioWare were the ones who created the wonderful universe and series.

That what I just think, please stop hating on characters and of course Liara and please start respecting characters and thier fans. I know I'm a Liaramancer and we all have likes and dislikes, pinions but I respect characters and their fans. I know I dislike some of them as well. Thank you, please be respectful.

I quite liked Liara, she was my Shepard's LI. Her and Garrus are my absolute favorites in the ME series. Always had them in my squad whenever possible but I know that not everyone will agree on that. Some people like Liara, some people don't. To each their own.

[Foxhound2121]

Squeegee83 wrote...

They feel left out.

I am one of those people. Thane's romance didn't even remotely come close to Liara's romance. (I am not talking about his death, btw). But it is hard for me sometimes not to feel some dislike. Again, not Liara's or her supporters' fault.

It really has nothing to do with Liara. I think it has more to do with people who want a bajillion romance options and expect them all to be same level of fullfillment. I personally don't want that. Not to mention it's not even possible with mass effect.

[Lawrence0294]

Zakuspec089 wrote...

 It wasn't stupid Cerberous and Miranda that bought Shepard back. Liara T'Soni did. {It was in the comics, mentioned in game.} Sorry for the ranting but it true.

Just popping in to answer to this.

It wasn't "stupid Cerberous and Miranda that bought Shepard back" you say?

To who did Liara give Shepards body?

Hell i'm grateful she took me away from Mr. Shadow broker (with help from Cerberus), but Cerberus and Miranda are the ones that ressurected Shepard. Miranda is the one that confirmed it was possbile and led the project. They are the ones that made that possible, they, not Miss T'soni, brought back Shepard from the dead..
The end 

[Baihu1983]

I like Liara but she was forced on the player in ME3 way too much.

[Gervaise]

It seems odd that people come up with such extreme ways of getting rid of a character they don't like. The writers may feel that Liara is important to the story and therefore they "force" you into recruiting her but if you don't particularly like her, then don't use her on your squad and don't bother talking to her. Liara is an important plot character and someone you would naturally consult regarding anything to do with the Protheans, and even the Reapers - remember she was the only person who initially believed that Shepard was telling the truth in ME1 because of her own research on the issue of vanishing civilisations. I prefer having her with me, as with ME1 and ME3, then sitting on the sidelines as in ME2.

Some romances ended up with more air time in ME3 than others. I romanced Ashley in ME1 but swapped to Jack in ME2. I got less air time with Jack in ME3 than I would have had I returned to Ashley but that was my choice. I still had my memory of that touching seen in ME2 with Jack to sustain me and know that behind all the bravado, there was a sensitive vulnerable person and that only Shepard had ever been privilaged to see that side of her. In another run through I might sacrifice Ashley on Virmire so I can get to react with Kaidan with a male Shepard, as this is partly influenced by my disappointment with the way Ashley was developed in ME3, but I wouldn't want someone else's love interest killed off deliberately because of this. As for Thane romance having less time in ME3, well you knew in ME2 that he was a dying man, he told you so. ME3 takes place 6 months later and Thane is much worse - it is heartbreaking but he had warned you. It is a pity they cut the romance related dying moments - if you've read them you'll know what I mean - but the "letter from beyond the grave" is still touching. Do you always have to have cabin scenes to make a relationship meaningful?

When I told Liara in ME1 that I wanted to be friends, I meant it. I didn't download the Shadow Broker DLC and hadn't read any of the comics but if she was doing all that behind the scenes, then I imagine Shepard appreciated it. As a friend, I was pleased to see her again in ME3 and know that she was someone I could totally rely on. When contrasted with Ashley, the thought did cross my mind that I had made the wrong call over the romance in ME1, but that was in the past and at least I could still value her as a friend without all the romantic baggage attached. I liked the shared memories scene on Priroity Earth (even if I didn't totally understand it) as a moment between friends appropriate to that character, just as my conversation with Garrus was. I certainly wouldn't want a character killed off just because some players don't like them. The Virmire sacrifice was hard enough.

So, OP, I agree with you, Liara deserves our respect but some people are hateful towards her because they think that's cool and badass - just ignore them.

[d-boy15]

respect? LOL what?

[Foxhound2121]

Squeegee83 wrote...

Foxhound2121 wrote...

It really has nothing to do with Liara. I think it has more to do with people who want a bajillion romance options and expect them all to be same level of fullfillment. I personally don't want that. Not to mention it's not even possible with mass effect.

Ah, you make a fair point. However, people's feelings will drive them in this direction and sometimes it's needed to provide some equality. For an example: I am a female player, who was left with nothing but lesbian romance options after Thane's death in ME3. If BioWare wanted to pull this stunt, then I think I should have gotten something better than a 5 liner romance.

That's why I think it is worth to argue that we need less romance options. There was far too many in me2 and 3 for many of them to be remotely meaningfull. I was under the impression that Kaiden was a female and male option or is me wiki lying to me.

[ManiacG]

Liara is ok in my book, a little reserved maybe but ok.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Squeegee83 wrote...

Foxhound2121 wrote...

It really has nothing to do with Liara. I think it has more to do with people who want a bajillion romance options and expect them all to be same level of fullfillment. I personally don't want that. Not to mention it's not even possible with mass effect.

Ah, you make a fair point. However, people's feelings will drive them in this direction and sometimes it's needed to provide some equality. For an example: I am a female player, who was left with nothing but lesbian romance options after Thane's death in ME3. If BioWare wanted to pull this stunt, then I think I should have gotten something better than a 5 liner romance.

I had this happen in one play. I had an adept in ME1 I kept Ash because I needed the firepower. I romanced Jacob in ME2. What happens in ME3. Thank you Bioware. I didn't do the play, but after seeing what Jacob did, in my first play I know I don't have the choices available.... "Grab my arm, Jacob. <expletive deleted>! My shoulder! Sorry Jacob. Let's go!" {renegade +25}

[ChrisDV]

Foxhound2121 wrote...

That's why I think it is worth to argue that we need less romance options. There was far too many in me2 and 3 for many of them to be remotely meaningfull. I was under the impression that Kaiden was a female and male option or is me wiki lying to me.

He is in ME3.

[IElitePredatorI]

She is a good character that I can tolerate but you can't deny her ability of being a Shadow Broker is 0:

[78stonewobble]

Tbh. I allways found her a bit "tame". Sweet but in a less "cute" way than Tali eg.

It's a matter of taste though. I think that squadmates that are meant to become friends or more deserved more or less equal "screentime".

With the exception of Thane... Someone we cared more or less about had to die at some point (no mordin nooooo)... From the squad.

[Baihu1983]

d-boy15 wrote...

respect? LOL what?

Respect what a computer character has done!!!

[M Hedonist]

Oh wow, I'm tempted to make a "People should RESPECT the Catalyst" thread now.

[clarkusdarkus]

Samara > Morinth > Liara

Liara was unique in ME1 and in ME2 going after the shadow broker was pretty badass but in ME3 she is way over the top and is forced into everything and for that i grew to hate her even though singularity is cool to use.

[arrveetee]

It seems to me like more people hate her involvement in the story, rather than the character itself. That's of course a writers' issue - the negativity should be directed towards them, if anywhere, if that's the case.

For the remainder who actually do /hate/ a fictional character and waste their energy on spreading negativity...well...you'll grow up one day. Hope springs eternal.