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[Wifflebottom]

Teddie Sage wrote...

@Captain: You mean homophobe. Homophone means something else.

That was the joke.

[CaptainBlackGold]

Wifflebottom wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

@Captain: You mean homophobe. Homophone means something else.

That was the joke.

Thank you; I hoped someone would get it.

[Drew Hawke]

I see what you did there!

[Quill74Pen]

Ah, heck. Let's just stuff the canon into the cannon, fire it and be done ...

[panamakira]

I take them to be as part of the story that I didn't get to play and happened "off screen". I don't always accept them (for example something like in the comic books where Alistair is King and he's not married to my Warden that type of thing) but in my head I put all the pieces together to sort follow along what fits with my character.

And even if Mr. Gaider writes something completely different from what I had envisioned, I take it as just enriching the Dragon Age lore.

My story and the way my PC reacts to things from the past/present/future I feel are as important as what is written in the books and comics.

[Archyyy]

The only things regarding player characters I consider canon are the ones I had a say in which are the games (despite having very little say in DA2). If my characters are written by someone else then its not canon. Other events could be as long as they dont involve my character or the choices he made.

[nightscrawl]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

It's kind of clumsy, but I like to think of the books and comics as "David Gaider's playthrough of Dragon Age."

Hah, I like it!

David Gaider wrote...

Anything introduced from those stories into future games would need to be done on the assumption someone didn't read them, so you're not required to.

I'll still read them, but this is good to know.

As a counter example, there are World of Warcraft novels (most of which I've read), manga and comics (none of which I've read). As time has gone on, it seems as if the content from those things are being incorporated into the game world more and more, particularly with the novels coinciding with major patches and expansions. Reading them is not required to do dailies or raid, but if you are at all interested in the "why are we here fighting this boss," it's almost required. For a game with a subscription fee, such a huge amount of ancillary material starts to seem like the company milking every penny out of their consumers. It's their right and perfectly reasonable for a business, but it doesn't make it any less frustrating to notice.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 28 octobre 2012 - 01:23 .

[Teddie Sage]

CaptainBlackGold wrote...

Wifflebottom wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

@Captain: You mean homophobe. Homophone means something else.

That was the joke.

Thank you; I hoped someone would get it.

I still don't get it. I know what an homophone is but I don't get the joke at all.

[nightscrawl]

Teddie Sage wrote...

CaptainBlackGold wrote...

Wifflebottom wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

@Captain: You mean homophobe. Homophone means something else.

That was the joke.

Thank you; I hoped someone would get it.

I still don't get it. I know what an homophone is but I don't get the joke at all.

Canon and cannon are homophones. Grammar jokes ftw?

[Drew Hawke]

When I do a play through I like to go through the entire series and make it all add up.

Like I will try to make choices the allow me to incorporate all the media.
I feel like it adds to the lore and I always enjoy the material.

I'm just kind of OCD about trying to make sure it all adds up

[Drew Hawke]

And I'll admit I had to look up the definition to homophone; I was trying to go off context but I honestly didn't know.

[Teddie Sage]

nightscrawl wrote...
Canon and cannon are homophones. Grammar jokes ftw?

Oh! *head desk* Sorry about that.

[Pink Pony]

CaptainBlackGold wrote...
But getting back to what "canon" means... Who was that character in Alice in Wonderland who insisted that words meant only what he intended them to mean, regardless of what others thought they might of meant?

It was Humpty Dumpty in Through the Looking Glass. Although he did have the courtesy to pay the word extra when he did that, which not many people do these days. 

Modifié par Pink Pony, 28 octobre 2012 - 04:14 .

[Farbautisonn]

Dont worry. They WILL pull a "deception" and have published a halfarsed novel that will be "reqired reading" to seamlessly follow the storyline. Because its the EA way. You can ofcourse hope they hire someone to write it that actually has a clue about the lore and insetting logic, but... well... Dont count on it . We need more "sang froid" ninja killers with a fetisch for cereal.

[Icesong]

nightscrawl wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

It's kind of clumsy, but I like to think of the books and comics as "David Gaider's playthrough of Dragon Age."

Hah, I like it!

David Gaider wrote...

Anything introduced from those stories into future games would need to be done on the assumption someone didn't read them, so you're not required to.

I'll still read them, but this is good to know.

As a counter example, there are World of Warcraft novels (most of which I've read), manga and comics (none of which I've read). As time has gone on, it seems as if the content from those things are being incorporated into the game world more and more, particularly with the novels coinciding with major patches and expansions. Reading them is not required to do dailies or raid, but if you are at all interested in the "why are we here fighting this boss," it's almost required. For a game with a subscription fee, such a huge amount of ancillary material starts to seem like the company milking every penny out of their consumers. It's their right and perfectly reasonable for a business, but it doesn't make it any less frustrating to notice.

I don't quite agree with the novel situation as you've described, but I can't imagine there's that many undecided novel buyers they're trying to exploit. People who buy the novels were going to buy them anyway. Blizzard doesn't withhold storytelling from WoW because they're trying to get those interested to buy the novels; it's not there because they've simply lost all ability to tell a story with instances. I love and think they've consistently improved at storytelling through questing(revamped Eastern Kingdoms is awesome) but the main tools they had for setting up the story in raids was attunements and rep grinds which are gone now.

Anyway, Blizzard also says that line about assuming people haven't read the novels so don't take too much comfort.

Modifié par Icesong, 29 octobre 2012 - 07:13 .