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[uzivatel]

And thats why reload canceling is bad idea...

[OniGanon]

You could perhaps squeeze better performance from a Black Widow if you're very good at landing all your hits, control the recoil, consistently reload cancel and are careful about avoiding your full Cloak cooldown.

Or you could just use a Valiant, and not particularly care if you miss because your ROF and reload speed makes it a non-issue, never worry about recoil because you don't have any, don't even bother with reload cancelling and don't need to think about your Cloak cooldown at all.

Valiant is fine. It's a powerful yet incredibly noob-friendly sniper rifle. It doesn't need to be the best at everything.

Modifié par OniGanon, 27 octobre 2012 - 05:35 .

[Atheosis]

No it is not underpowered. In fact, it's arguably the best sniper in the game in the right hands.

[121210Olivia]

A few months back the Valiant was perfect--so much fun. These days, yes OP, I think it has suffered from the raised health/shield-gate and stronger enemies. While it's not quite pathetic, it's not that far off (especially, when compared with its former-self). Buffing it next Tuesday would, no doubt, make it more fun--especially at the lower levels (i.e., I-III).

[OniGanon]

...?

Shield gate has never been raised, only lowered. Twice.

[Arppis]

I got it on level 3... and it did feel like water pistol.

I seriously don't know what the fuzz is about.

Modifié par Arppis, 28 octobre 2012 - 01:07 .

[Epique Phael767]

Saber > Valiant

[Asebstos]

I can't believe people are complaining about the Valiant.

Good ROF, negligible recoil, crazy fast reload speed. You should be able to get headshots all day long with it. Its also light and not even all that heavy once you put the HVB on it.

Of course, mine is at VIII.

[rymajn3]

I prefer the Valiant. More DPS. I don't see how one can argue differently, unless you're reload cancelling on the PC or something.

BW has way more recoil and takes much longer to reload.

[neteng101]

I asked about the Valiant not getting a buff - apparently Bioware thinks its just fine the way it is, ie. good enough, so they didn't buff it along with the other sniper rifles that got buffed recently. Sadly they're just wasting their time buffing the Crusader and Eagle (just two terribad weapons) endlessly instead.

[GeneralElectric]

Zancloufer wrote...

It could use a buff for a promotional weapon. It's nice, just doesn't scale well with difficulty,sucks against bosses and is at least as hard, if not harder to level than the BW.

Agreed. I did the weekend challenge this morning with my Valiant V, and it's terrible against armor/bosses unless you're consistently landing headshots (in which case, you could do just as well with a number of other sniper rifles). Don't get me wrong; I love this gun for its three shots per clip, decent capacity, low recoil, and fast reload time. It has everything going for it... except, seemingly in testing, damage. I haven't used this thing on Platinum in ages because of the low damage output. It outshines all of the rare snipers, but it doesn't compare to my Indra X or Javelin (that thing's a beast on the GI in the right hands). My Black Widow's only at III and feels pretty comparable to the Valiant, so I imagine the BW will surpass the Valiant when they're both at level X.

[ReverendBeast]

Why use the Valiant when we have the Indra...
Yup, I think it's a water pistol.

[Imp of the Perverse]

The BW syncs up better with tactical cloak - it takes long enough to empty the clip that TC is cooled down in time for a reload cancel. The valiant though doesn't, it doesn't need reload canceling but if you want the damage boost you have to wait a bit. Still, I like instant reloads and low recoil, it's an effective gun. Wish mine were at a higher level.

[BIENADICTO16]

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

It has a higher Sustained DPS than a B.Widow of the same level. Though a smaller Burst DPS, it's can keep firing for more damage where the B.Widow does a bigger chunk in one blast.

It's not under-powered.

Valiant X:
Burst DPS: 859.17
Sust. DPS: 571.78
Single Shot: 515.50
Full Clip: 1546.50
RoF: 100.00
Reload Time (non-RC): 0.93

B. Widow X:
Burst DPS: 923.80
Sust. DPS: 461.90
Single Shot: 923.80
Full Clip: 2771.40
RoF: 60.00
Reload Time (non-RC)

Please explain me what is
Burst DPS: Sust. DPS: Single Shot:Full Clip:RoF: Reload Time (non-RC)

English is not my mother language and I don't know about abbreviation.

[The Renegade Fem-Shep]

 Feels like a heavy and watered down Saber to me. Really need to bring the weight down or up the damage.

[ThatGuyThatPlaysThisGame]

Put Valiant on Destroyer and try and tell me 4 shots a clip is under powered

[Deucetipher]

Depends on your set up. I have two sniping characters, one of which is the Javelin GI. The other is the Salarian infil. Since Cloak-ED-Valiant Headshot downs any mook in the game, the Valiant is probably a better choice on gold and below. With boss spam on plat, I'm likely better off taking the BW or javelin

[Digitalis32]

compared to the Widow X - yes it is underpowered, however considering the reload times for each weapon I think it is balanced.

[megabeast37215]

I think the Valiant needs buffed... you can spew DPS numbers at me all day, and it doesn't mean anything b/c those numbers don't transfer over into gameplay.

For instance: If I have 2 Platinum Banshees bearing down on me, I can stop each one from jumping around with 1 Black Widow clip each. That same feat would take the Valiant around 9 shots each and it would be alot more troublesome to stay on target longer.

I agree... it kills mooks good... so does the Locust (and the Black Widow for that matter). I'd rather take a Black Widow and a Locust... than take such a medicore boss killer... especially into a Platinum game. The gun just has no stopping power, you can't repel an enemy rush with it... I love the firing characteristics, don't get me wrong... I just want it to kill stuff faster.

Ohh and for all the people who says, "Herp Derp, you gotta headshot with it for it to be any good herp derp!" you can say that about any weapon. The Avenger is good if you headshot with it, so is the Carnifex, Incisor, Raptor, Predator, Mantis, Viper, Geth Pulse Rifle, Collector Assault Rifle and a bunch of other mediocre weapons. I shouldn't have to hit a headshot on every bullet for a N7 promotional UR weapon for it to be effective... and quite frankly, the list of weapons you HAVE to headshot with for them to be effective, is a pretty crappy list of weapons.

[Meistr_Chef]

megabeast37215 wrote...

For instance: If I have 2 Platinum Banshees bearing down on me, I can stop each one from jumping around with 1 Black Widow clip each. That same feat would take the Valiant around 9 shots each and it would be alot more troublesome to stay on target longer.

I haven't done the math, but how does 1 Black Widow clip stop 2 Platinum Banshees? Or maybe you're not talking about killing them...stunning them or something?


EDIT: I see; one clip each.

Modifié par Meistr_Chef, 28 octobre 2012 - 02:49 .

[megabeast37215]

nvm

Modifié par megabeast37215, 28 octobre 2012 - 02:50 .

[SirRooster]

My valiant VI on Turian Sentinel disagrees

overload
headshot
rince & repeat

[megabeast37215]

SirRooster wrote...

My valiant VI on Turian Sentinel disagrees

overload
headshot
rince & repeat

On what difficulty?

Also... I don't think I've ever used the Valiant on a non-infiltrator... might be worth a shot.

[Stinja]

It feels weak to me - am i doing it wrong?

Trying to do the sniper challenge, and my Valiant V feels very weak compared to my Black Widow X and Javelin IX. In fact i think i did the Indra and Raptor felt easier...

[whalewhisker]

I think you're forgetting how light it is. It does really really good damage for its weight.