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Dave of Canada wrote...
Oh no! I can't play a game where my Origin becomes generic after around an hour of gameplay, prompting everybody to simply refer to me as "Warden" with the occassional (but still largely useless) reference to my race!
JuGonzo wrote...
Spankoman wrote...
JuGonzo wrote...
Spankoman wrote...
Obviously there will be things a human can't do that elves or dwarves can (although I think your examples are trivial, OP). But I think Allan has done a good job explaining why the lack of racial choice (are they races or species?) isn't determinative of whether a game is good or not.
If the first game have these options, so DA3 will be inferior (as DA2 was)
You need to append the words "to me" to that assertion.
They too http://www.gamespot.com/
Modifié par TheJediSaint, 27 octobre 2012 - 03:38 .
Solmanian wrote...
JuGonzo wrote...
Solmanian wrote...
JuGonzo wrote...
Race x Origins?
Why not both, for Maker's sake?! Of course a human can be many things, have many origins, but...
A human can't be a dwaven lord.
A human can't be an elven slave
A human can't be a Arishok
A human can't be a castless
A human can't be a da'len
Of course race matters - as origins too.
Yes, and all those people are the least likely to be involved with the inquisition...
Why not?
Cause it's a holy war between templars and mages? something that has very little impact on non-humans? If anything non-humans will support the war, not try and stop it, cause it will give them a chance for a power grab.
The inquistion supports the chantry, why would the arishok support them? Anyway the pc can't the arishok the job is taken
Why would an elf support them, a slave no less?
Dwarves? they don't even have magic! If anything they'lll support the templars who buy the majority of their lyrium!
Rawgrim wrote...
Solmanian wrote...
Am I the only one that noticed that OP profile doesn't even have any DA game?
Not everyone bothers to register their games.
Solmanian wrote...
Am I the only one that noticed that OP profile doesn't even have any DA game?
Solmanian wrote...
Rawgrim wrote...
Solmanian wrote...
Am I the only one that noticed that OP profile doesn't even have any DA game?
Not everyone bothers to register their games.
Right, like people who play pirated copies.
Modifié par TheJediSaint, 27 octobre 2012 - 03:19 .
Hey stop that! I wanna play as a horny character, who everbody says is big, and horny because imma kossith.Dave of Canada wrote...
Oh no! I can't play a game where my Origin becomes generic after around an hour of gameplay, prompting everybody to simply refer to me as "Warden" with the occassional (but still largely useless) reference to my race!
Modifié par The Hierophant, 27 octobre 2012 - 03:20 .
JuGonzo wrote...
Spankoman wrote...
You need to append the words "to me" to that assertion.
They too http://www.gamespot.com/
Solmanian wrote...
Rawgrim wrote...
Solmanian wrote...
Am I the only one that noticed that OP profile doesn't even have any DA game?
Not everyone bothers to register their games.
Right, like people who play pirated copies.
TheJediSaint wrote...
Long answer: On a practical note, DA3 is supposed to be released in late 2013 at the earliest. That probably means that DA3 is far enough along in the development process that major features like human only protagonist are already set in stone.
Short answers: No.
Crazy Eyed One wrote...
JuGonzo wrote...
Sainna wrote...
Why are you making this topic? Why?
No, there is no time for them to change their minds, it's far too late. I am sure they noticed that people like origins so we might get that in DA4 if it does come one day.
But it's not going to be in DA3, no matter how much noise there will be made, it's not going to be added now >.<
Because I can.
I'm starting to think that this topic has no real constructive purpose in anyway shape or form. I highly doubt they are going to change their minds in regards to racial options in DA:I perhaps maybe in future installements.
If they did decide to change their minds on racial options it would be resource inefficient and the opportunity cost would not be worth it in the long run.
Milan92 wrote...
Bioware has already decided that we will play as a human. You can make threads till the end of time, but it won't change their decision. Just accept it for what it is.
Besides, a Elf or Dwarf as Inquisitor wouldn't make sense at all.
Spankoman wrote...
JuGonzo wrote...
Spankoman wrote...
You need to append the words "to me" to that assertion.
They too http://www.gamespot.com/
Yes, Gamespot is a website. I'm not certain how counters what I said. You could mean that they agree that racial choice matters, but 1) linking to their main page doesn't support that, and 2) it wouldn't counter my point that "lack of racial choice makes an inferior product" is a personal, normative assertion.
Rickets wrote...
It's going to require some serious amount of time and money to develop a unique path for each race. If they are giving up race options to provide a more engaging (with better cutscenes) I'm all for it.
JuGonzo wrote...
Rickets wrote...
It's going to require some serious amount of time and money to develop a unique path for each race. If they are giving up race options to provide a more engaging (with better cutscenes) I'm all for it.
This sounds laziness for me...
But I understand. An action game is easier to make.
JuGonzo wrote...
Rickets wrote...
It's going to require some serious amount of time and money to develop a unique path for each race. If they are giving up race options to provide a more engaging (with better cutscenes) I'm all for it.
This sounds laziness for me...
But I understand. An action game is easier to make.
JuGonzo wrote...
Spankoman wrote...
JuGonzo wrote...
Spankoman wrote...
You need to append the words "to me" to that assertion.
They too http://www.gamespot.com/
Yes, Gamespot is a website. I'm not certain how counters what I said. You could mean that they agree that racial choice matters, but 1) linking to their main page doesn't support that, and 2) it wouldn't counter my point that "lack of racial choice makes an inferior product" is a personal, normative assertion.
It's not the lack of racial choice ONLY...
They remove other options (less specializations... less weapons... less descriptions...)
Spankoman wrote...
JuGonzo wrote...
Spankoman wrote...
JuGonzo wrote...
Spankoman wrote...
You need to append the words "to me" to that assertion.
They too http://www.gamespot.com/
Yes, Gamespot is a website. I'm not certain how counters what I said. You could mean that they agree that racial choice matters, but 1) linking to their main page doesn't support that, and 2) it wouldn't counter my point that "lack of racial choice makes an inferior product" is a personal, normative assertion.
It's not the lack of racial choice ONLY...
They remove other options (less specializations... less weapons... less descriptions...)
That isn't the same as having or not having racial choices, which is what your thread was supposedly about. As I'm sure you know. No one choice (nor any combination of choices) will objectively make a game inferior. We've all played RPGs that have fewer or different choices than those available in the DA series and enjoyed them. What you're saying (well, not really, you're just dribbling your objections out a little at a time to increase the drama) is that you want all the stuff you had in Origins, just with a different story to play through.
Welsh Inferno wrote...
JuGonzo wrote...
Rickets wrote...
It's going to require some serious amount of time and money to develop a unique path for each race. If they are giving up race options to provide a more engaging (with better cutscenes) I'm all for it.
This sounds laziness for me...
But I understand. An action game is easier to make.
Its not laziness. The dev team simply have to prioritize things. I'm sure they would love to allow you to play as multiple races. If they did choose to do so, then it would take away from some other big feature that they wanted to implement in the game. A feature that will probably be more useful to a greater number of people.
Even though Human Noble was my fave origin. I did love the chance to choose a race/origin and would love it in the game. But its not. Something that more people can (maybe)enjoy was prioritized over it.
Modifié par JuGonzo, 27 octobre 2012 - 04:29 .
JuGonzo wrote...
Spankoman wrote...
That isn't the same as having or not having racial choices, which is what your thread was supposedly about. As I'm sure you know. No one choice (nor any combination of choices) will objectively make a game inferior. We've all played RPGs that have fewer or different choices than those available in the DA series and enjoyed them. What you're saying (well, not really, you're just dribbling your objections out a little at a time to increase the drama) is that you want all the stuff you had in Origins, just with a different story to play through.
So the point is: why less when you can get more?
Assassin's creed had only 4 weapons. Assassin's creed 2 had 8... you got it?
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