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[ervanol]

Is Morrigan a virgin? I always asummed she would be. She claims she has slept with other men. Yeah wishful thinking, perhaps the devs thought she would look silly in an 18+ game. I think it will make much more sense that she is a virgin. With who did she sleep when, how?

Leliane is absolutly no virgin. This girl has been around and knows how to handle guys. I think the devs missed a great opportunity in rivalry between these two women. On one side the intelectual superior, but on not so wild terrain innocent woman against the one that knows everything a man wants and won't hesitate to have her kicks.

Two other things. Can we have the women naked when romancing? Morrigan shows more outside the bed than in the bed. I don't ask for porn but for removing the big bra's afterall we do have naked women in the game; I am referring to the spirit of the forest and the desire demons. Or, is naked and romance a big no no?

Then, I want some fun for dog. Now Morrigan hasn't slept with many men, I personally think she hasn't slept with anybody, but as a witch of the wilds we can only fantasy what kind of game she has played there. Morrigan doesn't like dog and I like to see their lines rewritten. Alistair, You and dog are very good friends, I see. Morrigan, Oh yes we are. He can be such a ... beast.

[Skellimancer]

No, she spends her time with animals in animal form for a reason.

[The Capital Gaultier]

Oh, Internet - what a marvel of connectivity!

[skotie]

They do have mods for nudity, unfortunately grown ups cannot have grown up games yet though, no matter what their rated. At least not in America.

Morrigan is no virgin though.

Modifié par skotie, 01 janvier 2010 - 06:06 .

[ReubenLiew]

She's no virgin. Thats simply wishful thinking.

[stardazzled]

Morrigan apparently tricked Chasind men and others like her mother did. I do see many men falling for such a women/girl, especially when not knowing her being a mage.



As for underwear, I'd rather like a shift/slip dress/undergarment for the usual women. Like the basic outfit from Titan Quest (PC). Would also make sense (in a historial way). But Morrigan definitely has to wear nothing.



But maybe semi-naked desire demons are not as bad as a semi-naked woman pictured in a sexual encounter because desire demons do nothing sexual (although they do, because they touch themselves in a slooooooooooooow way.)



But dog fun? Eeeeh. Sex with animals? Even with Morrigan being a shapeshifter? Absolutely no.



There always is room for improvements. This game is rated for adults in most countries and it easily could have gone all the way. But maybe not without being rated AO in the USA and thus limiting the sales extremely. In addition to not be allowed a release for the consoles - uncut.

[skotie]

stardazzled wrote...

Morrigan apparently tricked Chasind men and others like her mother did. I do see many men falling for such a women/girl, especially when not knowing her being a mage.

As for underwear, I'd rather like a shift/slip dress/undergarment for the usual women. Like the basic outfit from Titan Quest (PC). Would also make sense (in a historial way). But Morrigan definitely has to wear nothing.

But maybe semi-naked desire demons are not as bad as a semi-naked woman pictured in a sexual encounter because desire demons do nothing sexual (although they do, because they touch themselves in a slooooooooooooow way.)

But dog fun? Eeeeh. Sex with animals? Even with Morrigan being a shapeshifter? Absolutely no.

There always is room for improvements. This game is rated for adults in most countries and it easily could have gone all the way. But maybe not without being rated AO in the USA and thus limiting the sales extremely. In addition to not be allowed a release for the consoles - uncut.

The thing I don't understand is why does a game intended for a 18+ audience needs to have these restrictions on the game. You could easily have a love scene akin to those in DAO in a movie with nudity in a rated R film but when its a video game that same scene becomes a PG-13 seriously what gives?

I'm not asking for all the girls to run around looking like this...

http://www.dragonage...-1262129023.jpg

... the guy did a great job but I'm not exactly wanting to play King Arthur and the knights of the beach volley ball squad. But for the romatic parts of the game that don't even happen all that often why do I have to watch two people fumble around in their under garments like they weren't aware they needed to come off upcoming events?

Modifié par skotie, 01 janvier 2010 - 06:41 .

[tmp7704]

skotie wrote...

The thing I don't understand is why does a game intended for a 18+ audience needs to have these restrictions on the game. You could easily have a love scene akin to those in DAO in a movie with nudity in a rated R film but when its a video game that same scene becomes a PG-13 seriously what gives?

The Software Rating Board uses different standards. A game for 18+ audience gets AO (adult only) rating and many retailers simply refuse (or choose not to) carry games with this rating in their stores. So the games try to aim at M rating (17+) at best/worst and this means the game can have "references to sex or sexuality" but no actual "depiction of sex and nudity".

[Ryngard]

Morrigan is not a virgin (query... what does it matter? Some experience makes them much better in the sack anyway!).



Alistair is. He's "never licked a lamp post in winter".

[Ubasti]

Maybe it is wishful thinking, that she is not a virgin? Hmm? ;P



At least she has no clue how to really seduce men, unless she thinks seducing means disapprove of most they do, never try to tell them they are good at what they're doing and never want to know anything about them. (I actually do like Morrigan btw.)



What comes to nudity, well, I didn't mind the underwear in any other way than it is far too modern for the setting. Actually for me making out in underwear seems a lot more naughty... (Well I come from a country where everyone goes to sauna together, naked - and believe me, there's not a hint of eroticism in that )

[skotie]

tmp7704 wrote...

skotie wrote...

The thing I don't understand is why does a game intended for a 18+ audience needs to have these restrictions on the game. You could easily have a love scene akin to those in DAO in a movie with nudity in a rated R film but when its a video game that same scene becomes a PG-13 seriously what gives?

The Software Rating Board uses different standards. A game for 18+ audience gets AO (adult only) rating and many retailers simply refuse (or choose not to) carry games with this rating in their stores. So the games try to aim at M rating (17+) at best/worst and this means the game can have "references to sex or sexuality" but no actual "depiction of sex and nudity".

Ah, wonder why they don't just change the mature rating to 18+, would solve a lot of problems and make a lot of people happy I think. Of course then we would probably have retailers only selling teen and lower games then, *sigh*.

God forbid parents actually check the rating on a game before they buy their kids a game.

[stardazzled]

Ubasti wrote...
At least she has no clue how to really seduce men, unless she thinks seducing means disapprove of most they do, never try to tell them they are good at what they're doing and never want to know anything about them. (I actually do like Morrigan btw.)

What comes to nudity, well, I didn't mind the underwear in any other way than it is far too modern for the setting. Actually for me making out in underwear seems a lot more naughty... (Well I come from a country where everyone goes to sauna together, naked - and believe me, there's not a hint of eroticism in that )

In my opinion, Morrigan simply reduces sex to satisfying a drive. You know, the famous "having sex like a man". So there's no need to seduce someone that already wants to have sex with you for whatever reasons, is there? Although seducing helps - one says.

Don't mind the underwear as well. I totally agree with you. It seems far too modern... wearing strapless bras and strings. Like I said... undergarments for girls.... "fumbling around" while still dressed has something.  Could also create a more intimate/romantic atmosphere, and no just an "oh, another achievement"-atmosphere.

[tmp7704]

skotie wrote...

Of course then we would probably have retailers only selling teen and lower games then, *sigh*.

Yes, i think the details of rating aren't going to make any difference until this changes really. If most of the cinemas refused to show the R-rated movies you wouldn't see many of these made, too.

[Ubasti]

stardazzled wrote...

Ubasti wrote...
At least she has no clue how to really seduce men, unless she thinks seducing means disapprove of most they do, never try to tell them they are good at what they're doing and never want to know anything about them. (I actually do like Morrigan btw.)

What comes to nudity, well, I didn't mind the underwear in any other way than it is far too modern for the setting. Actually for me making out in underwear seems a lot more naughty... (Well I come from a country where everyone goes to sauna together, naked - and believe me, there's not a hint of eroticism in that )

In my opinion, Morrigan simply reduces sex to satisfying a drive. You know, the famous "having sex like a man". So there's no need to seduce someone that already wants to have sex with you for whatever reasons, is there? Although seducing helps - one says.

Yeah, I know that The thing is, that to me it seems most men want to get seduced first. Or are afraid of women who want to 'have sex like a man' (not all, mind you). So in a world like Ferelden, where women obviously aren't that open about such things, Morrigan might have more likely made men scared of her than to lust after her - unless they were very drunk . Of course, Ferelden is a fantasy land, so everything is possible, even modern underwear I suppose.

Actually thinking of it, she is very direct the way she speaks about men to the PC sometimes (like explaining that men think about women two ways, either that they are needing of protection or then that they like the man, and a woman just has to batter her eyelashes and act cute and she gets them to do what she wants - strange though that if she thinks like this, she never tries it on the male PC... Don't know if she says this to a male PC though, I was playing a female at the time she said that), and what I've noticed in real life most men tend to shy away after a while from a woman who does such.

[Ubasti]

tmp7704 wrote...

skotie wrote...

Of course then we would probably have retailers only selling teen and lower games then, *sigh*.

Yes, i think the details of rating aren't going to make any difference until this changes really. If most of the cinemas refused to show the R-rated movies you wouldn't see many of these made, too.

Maybe this is changing though. It took quite a time before they could show nudity or sex in the movies as well, there were even special offices and such to see all movies before they were released, and they told what could be shown and what couldn't. And there were no ratings I think, just that anything that was considered bad was forbidden. So we have hope still to get real adult games one day (not that it matters that much for me as a person, since I have imagination I can use while playing, but still it it would make the game industry a bit more open I think).

And DAO is rated 18+ in my country, which is same as M.

[stardazzled]

skotie wrote...

Of course then we would probably have retailers only selling teen and lower games then, *sigh*.

Here, many retailers now sell 18+ games and movies. An id check is required by law but local retailers sometimes check and sometimes don't (no complainant, no crime) - like they did before. Online stores charge an additional postal fee because your id is checked on delivery and has to be reported back. In the end, online stores have far stricter rules but it works well and I don't mind paying the additional fee. The fee's amount probably would be spent on fuel if I'd go pick up the game at a local retailer (and no additional curious glances are a plus, too).

[skotie]

stardazzled wrote...

skotie wrote...

Of course then we would probably have retailers only selling teen and lower games then, *sigh*.

Here, many retailers now sell 18+ games and movies. An id check is required by law but local retailers sometimes check and sometimes don't (no complainant, no crime) - like they did before. Online stores charge an additional postal fee because your id is checked on delivery and has to be reported back. In the end, online stores have far stricter rules but it works well and I don't mind paying the additional fee. The fee's amount probably would be spent on fuel if I'd go pick up the game at a local retailer (and no additional curious glances are a plus, too).

Yeah things are starting to get better but not totally. Like the last time I bought a M rated game I got asked for ID which I was actually happy about, but seeing the difference between games that come out in say europe and then seeing the US version I'm still sadly disappointed. It just goes to show how much the designers really had to change the game from what they originally intended it to be, just so it could be sold in the US.

Modifié par skotie, 01 janvier 2010 - 07:45 .

[Basher of Glory]

Ubasti wrote...

...unless she thinks seducing means disapprove of most they do, never try to tell them they are good at what they're doing and never want to know anything about them...

Hmmm...

if I would not know, that this is the DA:O board, I could think you described the common girl next door...



Ubasti wrote..

"The thing is, that to me it seems most men want to get seduced first"


Huh? Who said that??

Modifié par Baher of Glory, 01 janvier 2010 - 08:01 .

[Nathair Nimheil]

On one side the intelectual superior, but on not so wild terrain innocent woman against the one that knows everything a man wants and won't hesitate to have her kicks.

So you think sex is "everything a man wants" and that intellect is somethow the opposite.

Certainly explains why you want to know if Morrigan might be a virgin too.

[stribies]

I think Morrigan should turn into a giant spider during sex. Technically she would be nude right?

[Ubasti]

Baher of Glory wrote...


Ubasti wrote..

"The thing is, that to me it seems most men want to get seduced first"


Huh? Who said that??

Experience.

Modifié par Ubasti, 01 janvier 2010 - 08:06 .

[Basher of Glory]

Ubasti wrote...

Experience.

Which planet do you live on?

[Squiggles1334]

PC as Morrigan's very first time... Wishful thinking on the part of someone who gets off to the idea of deflowering virgins? Hmm...

[Bhatair]

Hardly.