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[Terrorize69]

Not sure if it's too late to suggst this but if not.. since we are going to Orlais (most likely), and Orlesian chevaliers tend to use pikes and polearms, can we please have these as an option for Warriors with a unique skill tree.

[ioannisdenton]

Yeah this is a nice thought that has been missing from DA.
Polearms would be exc,usive to warriors and even have their own talent tree!

[Sable Rhapsody]

I might be wrong, but because of their reach, it's my understanding that polearms IRL fought very, very differently from most melee weapons. It could be a very interesting playstyle, part melee and part crowd control, capable of supporting a squishier warrior who keeps enemies at longer-than-arms' length.

[marshalleck]

These would be a welcome addition to the game. Imagine how effective a combo they would make with mages. They keep the swarm of foot soldiers away from the mage, while the mage blows everything up with their spells. Halberds were often the weapon of choice for bodyguards because they could be used for thrusting in narrow quarters, horizontal swings in open spaces, they had a large spike for puncturing armor and hooking enemies from horseback, and tons of reach. I'd love to see warriors get a polearm spec.

Modifié par marshalleck, 28 octobre 2012 - 10:11 .

[Androme]

I'd love to see Polearms, but I doubt they'd work any differently from other two-handed weapons.

[henkez3]

I can't for the love of the Maker understand why they haven't included spears, halberds and other types of polearms for warriors yet. It's very, very strange to see probably the most common weapon ever, the spear, not included in the game.

Technically, we've had spears already in form of the mages' staffs in DA2, but come on, warriors deserve polearms to since they have to get up and dirty with the enemy.

[Giltspur]

They probably haven't included it because of the extra animations. But I too would like to see them add polearms for warriors, preferably with a different style of gameplay than say a two-handed sword has. I always feel that mages and rogues have more going for them than warriors do in RPG's. Making weapon types that feel different when used (different attacks for different weapons) would make warriors more interesting to me.

[philippe willaume]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

I might be wrong, but because of their reach, it's my understanding that polearms IRL fought very, very differently from most melee weapons. It could be a very interesting playstyle, part melee and part crowd control, capable of supporting a squishier warrior who keeps enemies at longer-than-arms' length.

yes it would be nice play style,
you can use both ends there is a dagger at the tail normaly. so it really covers all the range.
range wise it has the same as a zwei-hander, but you have 3 or 4 type of weapons on the buisness end.

IRL fencing with them is really a mix of half-swording (thaking the sword by the blade and the handle) and spear. So it is not different from other melee weapon.
(the spear seems to be a traditional judical weapon in 15th cent Germany, so it is in the manual)

There is a dedicated manual to noble axe (posh halberd) it is from the 15th century and in french "le jeux de la hache"
and that is a bit more specific. (noble axe seems to have been used a lot in sporting combat in france).

it is really would work well with a warrior

phil

[Archyyy]

Polearms wouldnt be very effective in 1on1 combat. Theyre best used in formations and defense. I doubt a very skilled duelist, like a warrior inquisitor would probably be, would choose a polearm as a primary weapon. Spears would be a nice addition as they are more versatile but polearms would be a waste of time unless they share animations and skill trees.

[Vilegrim]

Archyyy wrote...

Polearms wouldnt be very effective in 1on1 combat. Theyre best used in formations and defense. I doubt a very skilled duelist, like a warrior inquisitor would probably be, would choose a polearm as a primary weapon. Spears would be a nice addition as they are more versatile but polearms would be a waste of time unless they share animations and skill trees.

depends what we are calling 'polearms' a pike would be a waste of time on it's own,  a halbred or a lucerne hammer on the other hand, being shorted (only slightly longer than a staff) would be absolotly devestating in skilled hands, and that is before we get to the yari or naginata.  Reach, leverage and (in the right hands) speed, their is a reason they where battlefield weapons., and their remains the fact that they where pretty much the only weapons that could reliable crack the heaviest armours.

Modifié par Vilegrim, 28 octobre 2012 - 01:16 .

[Captain Crash]

Am I the only person who thinks this isn't a good idea?

Polearms are formation weapons on the most part, used as a forward thrusting motion. Yes you can do other things with it, but its very limited in style to other weapons. Frankly I think they are quite dull in potential and style compared to other existing weapons. Thats why we rarely see them in games

[TobiTobsen]

Captain Crash wrote...

Am I the only person who thinks this isn't a good idea?

Polearms are formation weapons on the most part, used as a forward thrusting motion. Yes you can do other things with it, but its very limited in style to other weapons. Frankly I think they are quite dull in potential and style compared to other existing weapons. Thats why we rarely see them in games

Back in the days I could fight with sickle, scythe and whip in RPG's! I would turn a blind eye on the unrealistic fighting style to get those weapons and some polearms!

Rule of Cool!

Modifié par TobiTobsen, 28 octobre 2012 - 01:39 .

[TheJediSaint]

Captain Crash wrote...

Am I the only person who thinks this isn't a good idea?

Polearms are formation weapons on the most part, used as a forward thrusting motion. Yes you can do other things with it, but its very limited in style to other weapons. Frankly I think they are quite dull in potential and style compared to other existing weapons. Thats why we rarely see them in games

That's true for, say, pikes.   Other polearmes, such as the Pollaxe or the humble quarter-staff, were ideal for close quarters personal combat.

[Sgt Reed 24]

I would absolutely love that!

Great idea.

[Vilegrim]

3 minutes in is poleaxe, but the swords and unarmed up to their is also cool.



second link is about Grand Melees and medieval weapons in general, not talking jousting, what came before, sharp weapons, pretty much no rules, brutal combat for prize money.

Modifié par Vilegrim, 28 octobre 2012 - 04:07 .

[Terrorize69]

Reason I suggest it is cause they could have so much potential and offer a completely new warrior experience, mostly warrior is slashing with minor bludgeoning. But little piercing, surely warriors should be able to go up against a heavily armored foe. Spears and the like offer a great deal of penetration power.

Skills that could go with polearms could include;

Leg sweep: Knocks targets in the warriors forward arc of their feet.

Double thrust: Thrusts weapon twice in rapid succession at the target

Armor break: Rapid jabs probe the targets defences for a weak point, lowers damage resistance and inflicts bleed DoT

Chevaliers Charge: The warrior dashes forward with their weapon readied and knocks down all targets in the warriors path.

Slam Dunk: Impales the target, lifes them up high and slams them into the ground.

[Lenimph]

 I've been wanting to see a polearm/spear skill tree in the DA games since I watched Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit  

I think it would be a nice replacement for dual wield weapons for a warrior class based on skill rather then brute strength or defense.  Kinda sucked that we didn't get anything to replace that dw tree even though it was a redudant tree.  Poleweapons would not only be a chance to give warriors something different but dragon age 3 something as well.  

I really hope they do add them. 

Modifié par Lenimph, 28 octobre 2012 - 05:50 .

[Arcadian Legend]

I always wondered about the lack of polearms in DA.

[Giubba]

Just saying but in the survey leaked 3 or 4 months ago you can clearly see a guy using a trident as weapon so maybe there is a chance that polearm will make an apparance in DA3.

[MillKill]

Giubba1985 wrote...

Just saying but in the survey leaked 3 or 4 months ago you can clearly see a guy using a trident as weapon so maybe there is a chance that polearm will make an apparance in DA3.

I think that's a mage staff.

However, the first two images here appear to show a guy with a spear on the far right of the human section.

http://social.biowar.../index/14137082

[L. Han]

Some mage staffs in DA2 had a pretty big blade on the tip. I guess that can easily be counted as a pole arm.