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[SteveTheMachine]

I would be supremely disappointed if any of the endings became canon.

[ghost9191]

yeah understandable . destroy is the choice for all my sheps ., besides renegade which goes for renegade control. so if any ending was to be made canon i would like destroy lol. but also understand how some might feel if they chose something different. same as i would if synthesis was made canon

[Legbiter]

No. It would be similar to how you can't import a dead Shep from ME 2 into ME 3.

[Falaxe]

Control ending:
*Starchild at Shepard*
Starchild: "YES, YES! TAKE MY ****! HOW DOES IT TASTE?"

Destroy ending:
*Shepard at starchild*
Shepard: "Haha, you little ****er! You cant do nothing else but just stand there and watch me kill you!"


Some people like mother, other like daughter.

[3DandBeyond]

Schrijver wrote...

I guess a decent majority considers destroy the best ending for your canon playtrough. ME4 will be much better when it's set after the events of ME3 than before. To make this possible, there probably should be a canon ending. So, wether destroy is your favourite ending or not, would you be okay with it being canon? 

I would be ok with it if it was "fixed".  The problem is, I cannot see a decent future as it is based upon either choice or ending.  I'm not cynical, just realistic.  You have to throw out synthesis and control (unless you really retcon some things) because they exist in a reality with living reapers and variants.  This means there's no way you can create some fearsome foes or conflicts (and stories must have conflict) without the reapers interveningl.  It's the literal meaning of what Control is supposedly for.  It is also the implication of what synthesis means.  The other nastier effects don't even have to matter.

Refuse is no fun because it means this galaxy just got destroyed for trying to go it alone, for trying to rely upon their own initiative and will and knowledge.  I hate this as a message, but it's clearly some bastard child of a message someone wanted to promote.

Destroy as it is, creates a reality where synthetic beings are institutionally devalued as life.  No one ever has to know that Shepard had an idea that EDI and the geth would die, the reality would be that organics were saved because synthetics died.  And living organics are shown to be OK with that.  Imagine being born into a world that was ok with your people dying because they lived.  I think this sets up future conflict with synthetics as well as with all other lower value lifeforms.  The Krogan are an example of that, the Rachni are, and the Volus and Batarians and so on.

I wish there was one ending that was attainable that people could achieve without intervention, but that is a different story, one these writers couldn't write because no one else created it already.

[darthnick427]

I'd be incredibly happy actually since destroy is the best ending

[SeptimusMagistos]

Sure. In universes where Shepard picked Control and Synthesis everything's already fine. In universes where Shepard picked Refusal everything's well beyond recovery. In universes where Shepard picked Destroy he's got work to do.

Makes sense to me.

[Iakus]

I completely would not care, unless it was clearly stated/shown in-game that Shep lives and had a "happily ever after" even if we didn't get to see it.

Then I would stat to consider forgiving Bioware someday.

[AlanC9]

3DandBeyond wrote...

You have to throw out synthesis and control (unless you really retcon some things) because they exist in a reality with living reapers and variants.  This means there's no way you can create some fearsome foes or conflicts (and stories must have conflict) without the reapers interveningl.  It's the literal meaning of what Control is supposedly for.  

You should probably leave interpreting Control in the hands of people who actually like that ending. I can think of several ME-sequel plots that would be consistent with what my Sheplyst would do. None of them involve extinction-level threats to the galaxy, but I don't want that in the first place.

I'm just saying that Control would be workable, not that it's preferable.

I wish there was one ending that was attainable that people could achieve without intervention, but that is a different story, one these writers couldn't write because no one else created it already.

I imagine not wanting such an ending might have had something to do with it too.

Modifié par AlanC9, 28 octobre 2012 - 06:04 .

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 

HYR 2.0 wrote...

I never really cared what they canonize.

Though I am beginning to want Synthesis canon for the ensuing nuclear apocalypse on BSN.

[MegaSovereign]

3DandBeyond wrote...

Schrijver wrote...

I guess a decent majority considers destroy the best ending for your canon playtrough. ME4 will be much better when it's set after the events of ME3 than before. To make this possible, there probably should be a canon ending. So, wether destroy is your favourite ending or not, would you be okay with it being canon? 

I would be ok with it if it was "fixed".  The problem is, I cannot see a decent future as it is based upon either choice or ending.  I'm not cynical, just realistic.  You have to throw out synthesis and control (unless you really retcon some things) because they exist in a reality with living reapers and variants.  This means there's no way you can create some fearsome foes or conflicts (and stories must have conflict) without the reapers interveningl.  It's the literal meaning of what Control is supposedly for.  It is also the implication of what synthesis means.  The other nastier effects don't even have to matter.

Refuse is no fun because it means this galaxy just got destroyed for trying to go it alone, for trying to rely upon their own initiative and will and knowledge.  I hate this as a message, but it's clearly some bastard child of a message someone wanted to promote.

Destroy as it is, creates a reality where synthetic beings are institutionally devalued as life.  No one ever has to know that Shepard had an idea that EDI and the geth would die, the reality would be that organics were saved because synthetics died.  And living organics are shown to be OK with that.  Imagine being born into a world that was ok with your people dying because they lived.  I think this sets up future conflict with synthetics as well as with all other lower value lifeforms.  The Krogan are an example of that, the Rachni are, and the Volus and Batarians and so on.

I wish there was one ending that was attainable that people could achieve without intervention, but that is a different story, one these writers couldn't write because no one else created it already.

That's not necessarily true.

In the Destroy epilogue you see Hackett and the galaxy mourning the loss of those who fought the Reapers and died--- both organic and synthetic life. Also, different playthroughs are different but in my canon Shepard persuaded the war-mongering Quarians that the Geth have been wronged and that war is not the answer. Even Tali admits she was wrong when she realizes how helpful the Geth are to their society.

So even if the Geth die at the end anyway, it doesn't necessarily mean the galaxy will forever be racist against synthetics. To top it all off, the implication of Shepard living that could change the argument altogether. If Shepard is alive I could easily see him giving a post-war speech mourning the losses of synthetic life.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 28 octobre 2012 - 06:19 .

[DeinonSlayer]

High-EMS Destroy is my canon. There should be no canon ending, in my opinion, but I guess if Bioware had to choose one, Destroy would irritate fewer people.

[Asch Lavigne]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

High-EMS Destroy is my canon. There should be no canon ending, in my opinion, but I guess if Bioware had to choose one, Destroy would irritate fewer people.

My canon ending too. But I believe Bioware would canon Synthesis.

[DeinonSlayer]

Asch Lavigne wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

High-EMS Destroy is my canon. There should be no canon ending, in my opinion, but I guess if Bioware had to choose one, Destroy would irritate fewer people.

My canon ending too. But I believe Bioware would canon Synthesis.

If they do, I won't be buying. Simple as that.

[MegaSovereign]

Asch Lavigne wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

High-EMS Destroy is my canon. There should be no canon ending, in my opinion, but I guess if Bioware had to choose one, Destroy would irritate fewer people.

My canon ending too. But I believe Bioware would canon Synthesis.

I can't see them putting green circuits on every character model for an entire game.

Even if Synthesis were to be made "canon," they'd have to retcon the unusual appearance.

[LilLino]

Haha, I can already imagine in the trailers everything green and everyone's eyes glowing.

I wonder what people who didn't play ME before would think if they saw that.

Honestly, do you want ME to go down in history as most green-glowing game ever?

[ReptileSmile]

Arcian wrote...

I'd be pissed if they do not simultaneously retcon EDI and the geth to be alive.

This.

Otherwise, I would actually prefer to see destroy as the  franchise's canon ending.  Even though I personally prefer both synthesis and control, in that order, for MY canon.

[fchopin]

Destroy is the only ending i will accept for a continued ME4 but what i think will happen is like something below.

We can import our game saves but only the ending chosen will be taken and a few other small details.
The game will probably start over a thousand or two years later, someone wakes you up from sleep and you create your character and nothing needs to be mentioned about the past.
If you want to look what happened in the past you will probably find it in libraries or friends will tell you that it is not clear what happened but the reapers were destroyed or whatever you picked was the ending but it is nor clear what happened.

That way the endings will nor have to be explained and the game begins with a new character and new companions.
Just muddle it up and forget about the past as Shepard destroyed the reapers even if not clear and we have a new beginning whatever ending people picked.

[Isichar]

Not really, but to be honest I am keeping my expectations for ME4 pretty low so it would be tough for it to disappoint me at all.

[crimzontearz]

AlanC9 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

No but only if I get a clear goddamn answer about Shepard's survival that does not involve the devs brink lazy spineless spiteful twits

Yep. Bio should just remove the breath clip in a patch.

if they did that and foced all LIs to put up the plate on the wall of the dead then I would know they chose to kill off shepard in that ending and choose Control in a subsequent playthrough and then I would actually have MORE respect for them

[skate4tacos96]

As of now, I would like Destroy over the other two. However if the IT is revealed to be true, or a conventional victory is added as an ending (the latter being the most plausible IMO) I would want one of those to be canon.

[Ome6ablak]

Destroy all the way!

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Or, instead f choosing a canon and making certain groups mad, they can do something likr this: http://social.biowar.../index/14207836

To answer the question, I would be pissed but I would grudgingly accept it.

[Tup3x]

Schrijver wrote...

I guess a decent majority considers destroy the best ending for your canon playtrough. ME4 will be much better when it's set after the events of ME3 than before. To make this possible, there probably should be a canon ending. So, wether destroy is your favourite ending or not, would you be okay with it being canon? 

Yes (for being okay with it being canon).

Modifié par Tup3xi, 28 octobre 2012 - 07:06 .

[ADLegend21]

Schrijver wrote...

I guess a decent majority considers destroy the best ending for your canon playtrough. ME4 will be much better when it's set after the events of ME3 than before. To make this possible, there probably should be a canon ending. So, wether destroy is your favourite ending or not, would you be okay with it being canon? 

No because then there's no synthetic life in a galaxy where VI's were common place and the Geth played a huge part in defeating the Reapers and where the damn hero of the galaxy had a full evolved AI helping her for the entire war. There's no Mass Effect without Synthetics.