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Who Officially Died in the Kirkwall Chantry?


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Vit246

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EDIT:

I just really want to know now. I'm tired of all the hearsay. Some people keep talking about how Anders murdered innocent people like orphans, sick people, and elderly when he exploded the Kirkwall Chantry.

But all the game ever shows us are Elthina and the Templars when it explodes. All the game ever shows us inside the Kirkwall Chantry is the entrance room, that one same room throughout the entire game and the only people in there ever are the priests and the templars. I never got the impression that the chantry was housing any kind of civilians at that time, and I'm reasonably certain Anders would think twice if he knew who else was in there. Is there like, any official word / info on this?

Besides, it exploded at night. Isn't the Kirkwall Chantry normally closed to the normal public civilians at night? 

I'm just tired of all the vagueness. I want to know the entire context of it all. Something like this should be made perfectly clear or else there is nothing but misinformation at best, and lies at worst.

Modifié par Vit246, 30 octobre 2012 - 02:36 .


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LobselVith8

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Vit246 wrote...

Besides, it exploded at night. Isn't the Kirkwall Chantry normally closed to the normal public civilians at night? 


That's what we have been shown throughout all three Acts - Hawke confronts Isabela's enemies and templars at night in the Kirkwall Chantry because it's closed to the public. Petrice was even able to murder the Viscount's son without any witnesses because Saemus went there at night. Even the scene where we see the destruction of the Kirkwall Chantry only shows a handful of the members of the Chantry, as well as members of the Order of Templars, in the main area.

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Those huge, flaming chucks of rock had to land somewhere. And there's also the shockwave, the dust.

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Vit246

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Well the game never shows us where all those flying rocks landed. We don't even really know how big Kirkwall is, or what the outside surrounding region is like and if its mostly empty or contains people. Personally, it felt like those rocks landed on nobody. It just feels like that to me.

I guess there is the shockwave and the dust to consider. But the streets are mostly empty at night and the shockwave barely does any structural damage, except for the magically spontaneous fires.

Modifié par Vit246, 30 octobre 2012 - 02:39 .


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Lazy Jer

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Well, until a programmer or other official person weighs in with a list then we'll never know officially. But we do know that Grand Cleric Elthina was there, a group of templars were there, that's all we actually see.

Everything else is just assumption/suppositions whether it be logical assumption (i.e. we can logically assume or suppose that at least one or two other chantry mothers or sisters were there), or baseless assumtions or suppositions (i.e. assuming that Elvis was there).

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Asch Lavigne

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Elthina was the only person of any importance in the Chantry. The only others iwho had any importance in the Chantry were Petrice and she is either dead or runs off. And Sebastian who is with you. Anyone else in there is random NPC fodder. And with them using the same like three NPC models over and over (example: look at the NPCS in the throne room with the Arishok in Act 2, its the same 4 people copy and pasted over and over) the clones will live on anyways.

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There are obvious technical barriers that may not portray the context in its entirety. Just look at the Qunaris stationed at the docks. There's only the Arishok and a handful of men, but when they finally decided to seize the city, an army appear from no where. What this suggests is that Kirkwall is actually bigger than the game make it seem.

So it's possible that, although we are only seen part of the chantry in the game, orphans, refugees and others that may live in the Chantry may have been killed in the explosion. I mean, in DA:O, Lothering Chantry was littered by refugees running from the Blight. The Warden even guided a boy who lost his mother to the Chantry so that the Sisters can take care of him. In addition, when The Warden ask about Wynne's life in the Circle, Wynne mentioned that the Chantry does house orphans and some of them become Templars and Sisters.

Modifié par throwmeaname, 29 octobre 2012 - 11:13 .


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The Six Path of Pain

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Who cares!

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Teddie Sage

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Seems like there was only a dozen of people in the Chantry, including Elthina. The rest were all hiding in their homes and the Viscount's Keep.

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 14 novembre 2012 - 10:36 .