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[Bernhardtbr]

So, after finishing The Witcher 2, I´ve reloaded DAO to see how the older game aged, and to be honest, not very well.

Not talking about graphics only, but other stuff that really should be done to improve immersion, and one of these is armor and specially weapon looks and behavior. I definitedly don´t want my character to roll like Geralt, but swords there (well, almost everything to be honest) fell pretty realistic.  In DAO I´ve created an elven character as a two handed warrior and I´ve noticed... the greatsword is big, SO BIG, that the elf could probably do pole jumping with it (gold medal for sure, pity the Olympics ended).  

Swings and blows in DAO are well done, but parrying and other moves could be improved a bit as well. I didn´t play DA 2 but one of the things I´ve read that really made me lose interest was how silly character moves were, with swords that seemed as light as fly swatters.

[Aulis Vaara]

You may want to try this mod. It greatly improves immersion, though it does not fix all appearances of the old weapons. Still, at least your characters no longer look like they're a bunch of LARPers swinging foam weapons.

[JCAP]

 The size of the swords are pretty accurate:

[Il Divo]

I would love for DA3 to take some inspiration from Dark Souls, in combat animations, weapons size/designs, and especially in armor.

[Aulis Vaara]

Length isn't the only measurement in size, JCAP. See how thin and lean that blade is?

[JCAP]

Aulis Vaara wrote...

Length isn't the only measurement in size, JCAP. See how thin and lean that blade is?

Actualy:

[Bernhardtbr]

Make and elf and give him a greatsword. Truste me, it´s very silly. It´s not about the lenght only, but how wide and thick it is. I would estimate DA swords to weight 3 kilos or more, definitedly very clumsy to wield, specially because in DA elves are not only thinner, but also shorter than humans.

[Aulis Vaara]

JCAP wrote...

Actualy:

I fail to see how superior craftsmanship of the katana has anything to do with the size of swords...

Modifié par Aulis Vaara, 29 octobre 2012 - 02:47 .

[JCAP]

Aulis Vaara wrote...

JCAP wrote...

Actualy:

I fail to see how superior craftsmanship of the katana has anything to do with the width and length of swords...

See the video again, and look at the longsword (not the katana)

Modifié par JCAP, 29 octobre 2012 - 02:47 .

[Aulis Vaara]

You really think that comes close to the ginormous foamy Dragon Age blades?

[JCAP]

We see so many times "fat" swords from the games that many actually think that is the real size, but in the real world, they are thin.

Modifié par JCAP, 29 octobre 2012 - 02:51 .

[Conniving_Eagle]

I loved the blocky swords of DAO.

[Conniving_Eagle]

JCAP wrote...

We see so many times "fat" swords from the games that many actually think that is the real size of the sword, but in the real world, they are thin.

And fast.

For some reason, a lot of people think that medieval-era swords are thick and cumbersome.

[Dhiro]

Eh, as long as it looks like they can actually lift and swing the thing I'm okay if they decide to go crazy with the art style.

[JCAP]

Aulis Vaara wrote...

You really think that comes close to the ginormous foamy Dragon Age blades?

Aulis, that sword in the video, is a longsword, the sword of the photo and that we are talking about, is a greatsword.

The greatsword is longer than the longsword, but they are thin.

[Vandicus]

JCAP wrote...

We see so many times "fat" swords from the games that many actually think that is the real size, but in the real world, they are thin.

I think Aulis was trying to say that DA:O had fat swords, which is why they weren't comparable in size to the picture which had a thinner sword.

[Pzykozis]

Meh, I just want good designs not really bothered if they're realistic or not.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Dhiro wrote...

Eh, as long as it looks like they can actually lift and swing the thing I'm okay if they decide to go crazy with the art style.

This.  If we see Formula Fantasy style stupid weapons, they better be like crazy magical and have their own story. 

[JCAP]

Vandicus wrote...

JCAP wrote...

We see so many times "fat" swords from the games that many actually think that is the real size, but in the real world, they are thin.

I think Aulis was trying to say that DA:O had fat swords, which is why they weren't comparable in size to the picture which had a thinner sword.

If that is the case, lololololol

[JCAP]

Vandicus wrote...

JCAP wrote...

We see so many times "fat" swords from the games that many actually think that is the real size, but in the real world, they are thin.

I think Aulis was trying to say that DA:O had fat swords, which is why they weren't comparable in size to the picture which had a thinner sword.

If that is the case, lololololol:P

[Aulis Vaara]

JCAP wrote...

Aulis, that sword in the video, is a longsword, the sword of the photo and that we are talking about, is a greatsword.

The greatsword is longer than the longsword, but they are thin.

Okay, this is silly, but, what are you trying to point out?

Because all I've been saying is that realistic swords are thinner and leaner. But now it's looking like you're just trying to say the same...

[Conniving_Eagle]

My problem with swords (atleast in DA:O) was the slow attack speed.

[Bernhardtbr]

Because that´s how a real greatsword behaves?

Why simply don´t rip a tree and swing it Hulk style then?

Modifié par Bernhardtbr, 29 octobre 2012 - 03:12 .

[JCAP]

Aulis Vaara wrote...

JCAP wrote...

Aulis, that sword in the video, is a longsword, the sword of the photo and that we are talking about, is a greatsword.

The greatsword is longer than the longsword, but they are thin.

Okay, this is silly, but, what are you trying to point out?

Because all I've been saying is that realistic swords are thinner and leaner. But now it's looking like you're just trying to say the same...

Lol, forget it, I thought you were saying that the swords aren't thin.

[fchopin]

JCAP wrote...

Aulis Vaara wrote...

Length isn't the only measurement in size, JCAP. See how thin and lean that blade is?

Actualy:

Thanks for the link, the katana is sure a beautiful sword.