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[Status Update] Stuck Challenges: Update 4:45 MT


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#126
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Bryan Johnson wrote...
This is actually the 3rd time we have run it
3pm local time
12am local time (midnight)
11am local time


Bryan, this response doesn't actually help people like Hantak, Bolo or myself.

Is there an order to how it runs? Order of forum registration? Alphabetically? According to challenge leaderboards? Does the script scan for stuck profiles and then require manual application by a live person? Is it set to do 100 people each time it's run? 1000? Would it be possible to have it auto-trigger when visiting a webpage, much like the fix for the missing operation medal? Can it not be scheduled to run once an hour automatically?

I, and I'm sure a lot of others, would like more transparency regarding this issue. There are only so many hours in the day for working people to play and having to "plan around" something as vague as "the script has been run 3 times" isn't enjoyable.

Z.

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ya no prob Bryan, i didnt mean anything negative sorry if it came across that way.

some of us were just overly hoping like 5 year olds( Me) on christmas, maybe we will get our presents tomorrow :)

Modifié par Bolo Xia, 30 octobre 2012 - 07:55 .


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Hey guys. My challenges still appear to be stuck according to N7HQ. I've not been in game for the preceding 13 hours from the time of this post, and was hoping that it'd be fixed by now.

My Origin ID is stew675. Could someone please take a look?

#129
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Bryan Johnson wrote...

We are not asking players to stay off, there is a reason we are continuously running this thing. With the person who wrote the script out of office today I can't ask if there was anything missed from it.


Oh I know, I just happened to have a some TV I could catch up on when I saw the script was running.  Poor wording perhaps. I'm not avoiding the game or anything.  Though with as much time as I play, it couldn't hurt. :P (Hence all the missed TV!)

Hey look, patience paid off, I just checked one more time now and it's fixed. :)  20/21 in Cerberus Mastery with 1 point left to get on Troopers.  Perfect.  I assume this means that the script is still running, for those who still don't have it fixed.

Thanks for the updates and all the work done, Bryan!

Modifié par Smikerama, 30 octobre 2012 - 08:02 .


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So.... a question. if someone already completed it and entered a glitched state.... and the script unglitches them and puts them at say... 16/18 or whatever - does that mean they will no longer have the completion?
because i kind of thing that's the fairest thing to do with the bar being raised for everybody who didn't rush to grind these ones out right off the bat. Sorry to the folks who already have it but IMHO your conditions for having it should be the same as the rest of us.

#131
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The list is ordered by an internal numeric ID... I'm not sure exactly but I believe the newer your EA account the lower in the list you'll be.

The script takes hours to run because there isn't a quick way to tell if an profile is broken and we also don't want to overwhelm the game server.

Depending on how many are left "broken" after this latest run we might take a different approach for round 3.

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Thanks for the explanation Jesse. So, in your opinion, should those of us with still broken challenges hold off playing, or just play freely and whenever it gets fixed, so be it?

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ErrorTagUnknown wrote...

So.... a question. if someone already completed it and entered a glitched state.... and the script unglitches them and puts them at say... 16/18 or whatever - does that mean they will no longer have the completion?
because i kind of thing that's the fairest thing to do with the bar being raised for everybody who didn't rush to grind these ones out right off the bat. Sorry to the folks who already have it but IMHO your conditions for having it should be the same as the rest of us.


Those who already had it did so within just a few days (and I wouldn't call any of them grinding except maybe Combat Mastery melee/grabs).  By now, most of those players would have them done anyway.  Take mine for example.. I already had the Cerberus Mastery banner, and all of the challenges are at 100% again anyway.. I just couldn't re-complete the gold challenge. I was stuck at 18/21 with no possible progress to make (all challenges complete), which was the bug.  Now I'm at 20/21 with 449999/450000 Cerberus Trooper points after the fix.  Once I get 1 point against Cerberus Troopers I'll have it completed 2x.  There's nothing really unfair going on.

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mine has just been fixed, i hadnt actually started a game yet when i noticed my N7HQ had changed.
just went and killed a geth i suicided and it has reset properly on the HQ.
hoping it stays fixed and hope the other challenges reset properly too.

it might sound silly of me tho, but thank the scripting guy for me since he is working at home :)

#135
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My recommendation would be to just keep playing unless you really need those challenges fixed. I will probably run it again tonight, about 10 hours from now, so if you don't see it fixed in the next hour or so try to avoid playing then.

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Thanks for the fix, guys!

And now to wait for that to be taken out of context.

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ErrorTagUnknown wrote...

So.... a question. if someone already completed it and entered a glitched state.... and the script unglitches them and puts them at say... 16/18 or whatever - does that mean they will no longer have the completion?
because i kind of thing that's the fairest thing to do with the bar being raised for everybody who didn't rush to grind these ones out right off the bat. Sorry to the folks who already have it but IMHO your conditions for having it should be the same as the rest of us.


huh?
how does that affects you in anything?
I completed the combat mastery by regular play, because i always go for grabs, melee and headshots, grenade one you can get it by playing any grenade class since they are great.
I also got reaper mastery completed before the fix because i soloed gold against reapers to complete my lone wolf thing.

I didnt grind for them, they just happened, if i wasnt stuck on them i would have them completed 2-3 times already, look at my challenges screen, im missing 4-5 banners to get them all. I played a lot because i was on vacations and did the smart thing and played different characters in U/U/G with different weapons so i completed them all very fast. 
Is not my fault or anyone else whos glitched that some people cant get the challenges done by just playing normally and have to "grind" for them.

Enough with you..

Is the current fix wave finished? at what time in PST time zone will be runned the fix tomorrow? or how long you guys plan to keep running this fix? eta on the next one?

sorry for the long post.

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and nevermind. I'll stay off the game tonight then.

Modifié par ASmoothCriminalx, 30 octobre 2012 - 08:27 .


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I didn't realize it was taking hours to run. Thanks for the clarification.

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Smikerama wrote...

ErrorTagUnknown wrote...

So.... a question. if someone already completed it and entered a glitched state.... and the script unglitches them and puts them at say... 16/18 or whatever - does that mean they will no longer have the completion?
because i kind of thing that's the fairest thing to do with the bar being raised for everybody who didn't rush to grind these ones out right off the bat. Sorry to the folks who already have it but IMHO your conditions for having it should be the same as the rest of us.


Those who already had it did so within just a few days (and I wouldn't call any of them grinding except maybe Combat Mastery melee/grabs).  By now, most of those players would have them done anyway.  Take mine for example.. I already had the Cerberus Mastery banner, and all of the challenges are at 100% again anyway.. I just couldn't re-complete the gold challenge. I was stuck at 18/21 with no possible progress to make (all challenges complete), which was the bug.  Now I'm at 20/21 with 449999/450000 Cerberus Trooper points after the fix.  Once I get 1 point against Cerberus Troopers I'll have it completed 2x.  There's nothing really unfair going on.


ALSO

hantask wrote...
huh?
how does that affects you in anything?
I completed the combat
mastery by regular play, because i always go for grabs, melee and
headshots, grenade one you can get it by playing any grenade class since
they are great.
I also got reaper mastery completed before the fix because i soloed gold against reapers to complete my lone wolf thing.

I
didnt grind for them, they just happened, if i wasnt stuck on them i
would have them completed 2-3 times already, look at my challenges
screen, im missing 4-5 banners to get them all. I played a lot because i
was on vacations and did the smart thing and played different
characters in U/U/G with different weapons so i completed them all very
fast. 
Is not my fault or anyone else whos glitched that some people
cant get the challenges done by just playing normally and have to
"grind" for them.

Enough with you..


Sorry if you missed my point.   nothing against the folks who already have them. I'm well aware many folks have far more time to play than I -- can't blame you, if i have a spare 30 mins i always try and squeeze a round in.

I'm just curious if, once the fix goes through -- if people who would only be ... say ... 17/18 .... would no longer have the banner.  (you make a fair point that it would be unlikely for someone to have reached 16/18 before the balance change, but had not reached the 18/18 point by that point - but some people may have (particularly in the combat mastery - as if you don't favor melee play, 1,000,000 melee points is a bit of a grind).  However, if you were in that position where you have only accumulated enough to have all but level 3 of melee points, would you no longer have the banner you got prior to the adjusted requirements?  Like i said - that would be only fair.
for the folks who have more than enough to max all categories, that's all well and good.

#141
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You can't be in a broken state unless you've completed it at least once. And we aren't changing how many times you've completed the gold challenge, just properly recounting the number of silver challenges.

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Jesse.Reid wrote...

You can't be in a broken state unless you've completed it at least once. And we aren't changing how many times you've completed the gold challenge, just properly recounting the number of silver challenges.


yes that's what i'm getting at.  somebody could have theoretically completed the required number of silver challenges to get the gold challenge awarded, entered the broken state, but for whatever reason have not achieved the new silver challenge requirement  (rare i'm guessing, and not what the two other posters thought i was getting at...)
eg combat mastery - somebody completed everything except melee points..... entered broken state... has not hit 1mil mellee points since then...  will their account be put into a state with the gold challenge already completed, or into a state where they have all but melee points (or some mid point) ... or in the case of the folks above who would have 'completed it several times over' into a state where it is already complete?

#143
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My collector mastery is fixed now, thank you very much. :)

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EDIT: Nevermind found it in another thread.

Modifié par Hyperglide, 30 octobre 2012 - 09:42 .


#145
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ErrorTagUnknown wrote...
yes that's what i'm getting at.  somebody could have theoretically completed the required number of silver challenges to get the gold challenge awarded, entered the broken state, but for whatever reason have not achieved the new silver challenge requirement  (rare i'm guessing, and not what the two other posters thought i was getting at...)
eg combat mastery - somebody completed everything except melee points..... entered broken state... has not hit 1mil mellee points since then...  will their account be put into a state with the gold challenge already completed, or into a state where they have all but melee points (or some mid point) ... or in the case of the folks above who would have 'completed it several times over' into a state where it is already complete?


Not sure exactly what you mean but you couldn't get into the broken state without first completing the gold challenge.

Modifié par Jesse.Reid, 30 octobre 2012 - 08:55 .


#146
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Why do we always have to go the N7HQ? Do you people get ad money every time we visit it or what? Seems completely pointless to me.

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Jesse.Reid wrote...

ErrorTagUnknown wrote...
yes that's what i'm getting at.  somebody could have theoretically completed the required number of silver challenges to get the gold challenge awarded, entered the broken state, but for whatever reason have not achieved the new silver challenge requirement  (rare i'm guessing, and not what the two other posters thought i was getting at...)
eg combat mastery - somebody completed everything except melee points..... entered broken state... has not hit 1mil mellee points since then...  will their account be put into a state with the gold challenge already completed, or into a state where they have all but melee points (or some mid point) ... or in the case of the folks above who would have 'completed it several times over' into a state where it is already complete?


Not sure exactly what you mean but you couldn't get into the broken state without first completing the gold challenge.


right... but the gold challenge in these used to be 16 out of 18 challenges (or 14 out of 17 for example)  now it's 18/18 or 17/17 (just picking random numbers)

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Rehab Grimace wrote...

Why do we always have to go the N7HQ? Do you people get ad money every time we visit it or what? Seems completely pointless to me.


Jesse is the one who created the script, the N7HQ cache's your data (and it is the data Jesse has access to). So essentially if you dont go to the N7HQ we don't have an easy way to access your data.

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ErrorTagUnknown wrote...

Jesse.Reid wrote...

ErrorTagUnknown wrote...
yes that's what i'm getting at.  somebody could have theoretically completed the required number of silver challenges to get the gold challenge awarded, entered the broken state, but for whatever reason have not achieved the new silver challenge requirement  (rare i'm guessing, and not what the two other posters thought i was getting at...)
eg combat mastery - somebody completed everything except melee points..... entered broken state... has not hit 1mil mellee points since then...  will their account be put into a state with the gold challenge already completed, or into a state where they have all but melee points (or some mid point) ... or in the case of the folks above who would have 'completed it several times over' into a state where it is already complete?


Not sure exactly what you mean but you couldn't get into the broken state without first completing the gold challenge.


right... but the gold challenge in these used to be 16 out of 18 challenges (or 14 out of 17 for example)  now it's 18/18 or 17/17 (just picking random numbers)



In that case when we run this script they would be set to 11/12 (with just the melee 1M to complete) 

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I know the info for @errotagunknown must be vital for him to continue his gaming experience,
(read sarcasm by the way)

but since you have taken the time to answer him that...

would you kindly answer a more important question such as:

do i stay offline now so the script has any effect on my account? or if its no longer running, at wich time PST will be runned the script again tomorrow?