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Yup, Collectors have definitely taken a large chunk out of the fun in this game.


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#51
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alphawolf35779 wrote...

Geimhreadh wrote...

alphawolf35779 wrote...

TheLukerez wrote...
I am disagree.
They are challenging, I guess it's that you don't like.  Regardless, switch up your class loadouts and powers.  BioWare actually states for their DLC. (If you click the DLC specifically on the website tabs)  That you will need to switch up how you play, basically.  That isn't word for word but surely someone else has read this and can explain it better.

Excuse my french but what the ****? Most of it has blown over but im still pissed I didnt get the ending I wanted and your saying that they said somewhere I have to change my playing style? It's bad enough they made an extended cut and said if you still don't like it tough, again what the ****? I completely understand that the Mass Effect series is their creation, BUT who pays the bills? The fricken consumer. I will not change my playing style for a game I would like to enjoy, if I wanted to break a controler again and get beyond pissed i'd play ****ing COD. Sorry if I got off topic, and I apologize about my language. I still meant what I said.

You seem a bit mad.  Are you mad?

Are you really trolling? My text wasn't very friendly or socially acceptable but that's really sad.

You do seem mad tho.  It's weird how your French words are getting censored.  A Canadian company like bioware shouldn't do things like that.

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Geimhreadh

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alphawolf35779 wrote...

Geimhreadh wrote...

alphawolf35779 wrote...

TheLukerez wrote...

I am disagree.
They are challenging, I guess it's that you don't like.  Regardless, switch up your class loadouts and powers.  BioWare actually states for their DLC. (If you click the DLC specifically on the website tabs)  That you will need to switch up how you play, basically.  That isn't word for word but surely someone else has read this and can explain it better.

Excuse my french but what the ****? Most of it has blown over but im still pissed I didnt get the ending I wanted and your saying that they said somewhere I have to change my playing style? It's bad enough they made an extended cut and said if you still don't like it tough, again what the ****? I completely understand that the Mass Effect series is their creation, BUT who pays the bills? The fricken consumer. I will not change my playing style for a game I would like to enjoy, if I wanted to break a controler again and get beyond pissed i'd play ****ing COD. Sorry if I got off topic, and I apologize about my language. I still meant what I said.

You seem a bit mad.  Are you mad?

Are you really trolling? My text wasn't very friendly or socially acceptable but that's really sad.

Arguably.  Mostly I'm just snarking about the fact that you appear to have blown your top over a game.  And no, I wasn't upset about the endings, nor am I particularly bothered by having to adjust my playstyle to deal with the quirks of a new enemy faction.

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alphawolf35779

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Shampoohorn wrote...

alphawolf35779 wrote...

Geimhreadh wrote...

alphawolf35779 wrote...

TheLukerez wrote...
I am disagree.
They are challenging, I guess it's that you don't like.  Regardless, switch up your class loadouts and powers.  BioWare actually states for their DLC. (If you click the DLC specifically on the website tabs)  That you will need to switch up how you play, basically.  That isn't word for word but surely someone else has read this and can explain it better.

Excuse my french but what the ****? Most of it has blown over but im still pissed I didnt get the ending I wanted and your saying that they said somewhere I have to change my playing style? It's bad enough they made an extended cut and said if you still don't like it tough, again what the ****? I completely understand that the Mass Effect series is their creation, BUT who pays the bills? The fricken consumer. I will not change my playing style for a game I would like to enjoy, if I wanted to break a controler again and get beyond pissed i'd play ****ing COD. Sorry if I got off topic, and I apologize about my language. I still meant what I said.

You seem a bit mad.  Are you mad?

Are you really trolling? My text wasn't very friendly or socially acceptable but that's really sad.

You do seem mad tho.  It's weird how your French words are getting censored.  A Canadian company like bioware shouldn't do things like that.

Sometimes I get confused if people are being smart asses or if they are really serious. And if you are indeed serious it was a figure of speech.

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alphawolf35779 wrote...

Shampoohorn wrote...
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You do seem mad tho.  It's weird how your French words are getting censored.  A Canadian company like bioware shouldn't do things like that.

Sometimes I get confused if people are being smart asses or if they are really serious. And if you are indeed serious it was a figure of speech.


I was being a smartass.  Your 8 month old rant about the game's ending brought it out of me.

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Geimhreadh wrote...

alphawolf35779 wrote...

Geimhreadh wrote...

alphawolf35779 wrote...

TheLukerez wrote...

I am disagree.
They are challenging, I guess it's that you don't like.  Regardless, switch up your class loadouts and powers.  BioWare actually states for their DLC. (If you click the DLC specifically on the website tabs)  That you will need to switch up how you play, basically.  That isn't word for word but surely someone else has read this and can explain it better.

Excuse my french but what the ****? Most of it has blown over but im still pissed I didnt get the ending I wanted and your saying that they said somewhere I have to change my playing style? It's bad enough they made an extended cut and said if you still don't like it tough, again what the ****? I completely understand that the Mass Effect series is their creation, BUT who pays the bills? The fricken consumer. I will not change my playing style for a game I would like to enjoy, if I wanted to break a controler again and get beyond pissed i'd play ****ing COD. Sorry if I got off topic, and I apologize about my language. I still meant what I said.

You seem a bit mad.  Are you mad?

Are you really trolling? My text wasn't very friendly or socially acceptable but that's really sad.

Arguably.  Mostly I'm just snarking about the fact that you appear to have blown your top over a game.  And no, I wasn't upset about the endings, nor am I particularly bothered by having to adjust my playstyle to deal with the quirks of a new enemy faction.

Well someone blowing up over anything is old news, anger and frustration are only emotions that everyone has. "Snarky", do you mind if I refer to you as such? I don't really care but it's cute what your doing, daily routine considering you play alot on the PC. Lastly um, why did you include topics from my post that you had nothing to do with? And I never was "mad" slightly agitated more like.

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I think I've lost count of how many times I have been left on the 10th wave doing the objective by myself because everyone has been slaughtered pathetically by the Collectors.
Only for me to waste my medigels to revive myself and get collectively (lolpun) mugged by 9 Troopers/Abominations and sniped by Scions while trying to deactivate a beacon or whatever.
Literally next to never had this issue before but now it happens at LEAST 3 times a session of playing ME MP.
Don't think I'll search "Unknown" faction ever again until people actually learn how to fight them properly.

PS: Scions can burn in hell, they despirately need a nerf. Most OP unit in the game.


I like them cause they are hard w/o being cheap.
with that said wave 10 hacks are brutal stuck in a small area with the constant spam of cluster grenades, laser eyes that hit through cover, 2 enemmies that OHK and have a ton of armor, and the homing missiles the possesssed Pretoreans have.

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Shampoohorn wrote...

alphawolf35779 wrote...

Shampoohorn wrote...
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You do seem mad tho.  It's weird how your French words are getting censored.  A Canadian company like bioware shouldn't do things like that.

Sometimes I get confused if people are being smart asses or if they are really serious. And if you are indeed serious it was a figure of speech.


I was being a smartass.  Your 8 month old rant about the game's ending brought it out of me.

Lol. Their are enough people trying to set people off, why contribute?

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Geimhreadh

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alphawolf35779 wrote...

Geimhreadh wrote...

alphawolf35779 wrote...

Geimhreadh wrote...

alphawolf35779 wrote...

TheLukerez wrote...

I am disagree.
They are challenging, I guess it's that you don't like.  Regardless, switch up your class loadouts and powers.  BioWare actually states for their DLC. (If you click the DLC specifically on the website tabs)  That you will need to switch up how you play, basically.  That isn't word for word but surely someone else has read this and can explain it better.

Excuse my french but what the ****? Most of it has blown over but im still pissed I didnt get the ending I wanted and your saying that they said somewhere I have to change my playing style? It's bad enough they made an extended cut and said if you still don't like it tough, again what the ****? I completely understand that the Mass Effect series is their creation, BUT who pays the bills? The fricken consumer. I will not change my playing style for a game I would like to enjoy, if I wanted to break a controler again and get beyond pissed i'd play ****ing COD. Sorry if I got off topic, and I apologize about my language. I still meant what I said.

You seem a bit mad.  Are you mad?

Are you really trolling? My text wasn't very friendly or socially acceptable but that's really sad.

Arguably.  Mostly I'm just snarking about the fact that you appear to have blown your top over a game.  And no, I wasn't upset about the endings, nor am I particularly bothered by having to adjust my playstyle to deal with the quirks of a new enemy faction.

Well someone blowing up over anything is old news, anger and frustration are only emotions that everyone has. "Snarky", do you mind if I refer to you as such? I don't really care but it's cute what your doing, daily routine considering you play alot on the PC. Lastly um, why did you include topics from my post that you had nothing to do with? And I never was "mad" slightly agitated more like.

Because trying to edit out extraneous quotes and messing up looks like crap, plus I like quote pyramids/singlarities.  And I'm here because work is slow.

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As much of a pain as the Scions are, and as ridiculously quick as the Praetorians are (with their Laser Eyes of Going Through Cover +5), I still enjoy them. I mean, I'll still groan when they come up on an U/U, but they kind of feel like they were meant to be tricky. Geth are just haxx.

It's also been, I hate to say it, kind of a fun challenge to figure out ways to deal with the Possessed Abominations that are coming right for you.


(EDIT: What hasn't been fun has been the Dragoon. You can go on and on about your enormous epeen and its Dragoon-destroying internet testicles, but they're still fast, they jink all over the place, they shoot you as soon as they've whipped at you, and they often move in packs. I think they are probably my least-favorite enemy, right ahead of Ravagers, and at least those guys have been around longer and have the decency to move at a reasonable pace. Even Hunters aren't so douchey.)

Modifié par jordie3000, 29 octobre 2012 - 09:20 .


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I love the collectors they give my Vorcha and Krogan Vanguard a run for there money.... There not to squishy

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They're not too bad outside of the Scion double shot(they should really reduce their damage by 50% as a band-aid fix until they can get a proper fix out).

They just require some getting used to. Might need to mix things up a bit too. What works against Cerberus/Reapers/Geth might not necessarily work against the Collectors.

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jordie3000 wrote...

As much of a pain as the Scions are, and as ridiculously quick as the Praetorians are (with their Laser Eyes of Going Through Cover +5), I still enjoy them. I mean, I'll still groan when they come up on an U/U, but they kind of feel like they were meant to be tricky. Geth are just haxx.

It's also been, I hate to say it, kind of a fun challenge to figure out ways to deal with the Possessed Abominations that are coming right for you.

Break barrier, ragdoll them away from you (and towards any enemies, or friends you feel like screwing with), kill them.

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Collectors are more powerful than the other factions. It's not playing differently. They are just plain more powerful. They are as tough and strong as any other faction, plus they have huge debuffs, and take a difficulty-level less from combo explosions.
The problem isn't that they're too hard. The problem is that Silver Collectors is almost as hard as Reapers on Gold.

That, and the Praetorian is basically the combination of the most hated elements of all bosses. Power immunity, fast movement, two at once, random Sync-kills, stunlock, high-damage attacks that can ignore shieldgate and shoot through cover.

Also, everyone who talks about the Scion bug seems to think that fixing the bug will suddenly make them fair, when in reality, the bug pretty much only affects Krogans, and a few kits spec'd full-fitness. On Bronze. They're supposed to do 900 damage on Bronze. On Gold, they will still gate any class without a Cyclonic IV, and probably even then. Probably the only classes that could not get gated on Gold are Krogans with full fitness and a Cyclonic IV.

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Yeah they feel like it's a difficulty higher than you picked.


Kind of how the Reapers used to feel.

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Geimhreadh wrote...

jordie3000 wrote...

As much of a pain as the Scions are, and as ridiculously quick as the Praetorians are (with their Laser Eyes of Going Through Cover +5), I still enjoy them. I mean, I'll still groan when they come up on an U/U, but they kind of feel like they were meant to be tricky. Geth are just haxx.

It's also been, I hate to say it, kind of a fun challenge to figure out ways to deal with the Possessed Abominations that are coming right for you.

Break barrier, ragdoll them away from you (and towards any enemies, or friends you feel like screwing with), kill them.


If you've got a class that can ragdoll stuff, sure. 

I know what you're saying. I'm not complaining, I legitimately have had a bit of fun figuring out ways to deal with them on various classes. I just feel like I'm saying I like homework when I say things like that, and no self-respecting person who was ever a kid feels right saying that. 

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Wat

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I dig the Collectors. Whenever we see a Scion, my friend and I always quote the scene from Young Frankenstein:

"You know, I don't mean to embarrass you,but I'm a rather brilliant surgeon. Perhaps I could help you with that hump."

"What hump?"

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my only beef with the collectors is what some people have already said: the scions. they do take away way too much just from one blast. if my turian sentinel has max shields at over 1400, equipped with sheild booster v (+30%) and a cyclonic modulator iv (+ another 150%) and then just one shot from a scion completely strips them away, then that's pretty cheap in my opinion. other than that, collectors are fun as hell to fight.

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I kinda like them...until an objective wave comes up. Then every hack is Reaper/Geth Reactor centre room. We got our asses handed to us on a wave 3 open hack on Giant yesterday. Even using missiles, they were relentless. One guy eventually manage to finnish it and got us through that and another wave, I had to solo most of 8 or 9...wasn't really fun at all.

A few nerfs to scions and praetorians would do them good I think. Specifically praetorian speed, scion armour, possesed durability and damage output: those lasers do huge damage and go past health and shield gate. Nothing massive, just a little and fix the bugs.

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With a decent team i don't mind going up against them but the problem is there are still quite a few people who don't quite yet know how to handle them and this is why UUG can be a nightmare at times.

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Sounds like you should choose a faction to play against instead of choosing 'unknown'. That way, you don't have to worry about fighting Collectors.

Problem solved.

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I get a kick out of Possessed Abomination deaths. I find them hilarious, especially when all you hear is the massive explosion followed immediately by X SQUADMATE HAS BEEN TAKEN DOWN.

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I hate the scions. They need fixing . Other than that , I like collectors , even with swarms hurting power based characters whIch I'd what I tend to play

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I like the collectors...geth are worse

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Uh, Collectors are great. They add some challenge back into the game. A couple months from now, we'll all have them down easy squeezy and BioWare (if MP is still alive) will have to introduce Blood Pack or Mercs or something.