My only gripe against the collectors is the seeker swarms. I think I threw 2 arc grenades from cloak and killed the troopers but not the swarms. That pissed me off right there. They have way to much health.
Yup, Collectors have definitely taken a large chunk out of the fun in this game.
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#127
Posté 30 octobre 2012 - 09:02
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kyles3 wrote...
I find them to be the hardest faction by a wide margin, but they're not what takes the fun out of the game. What takes the fun out of the game has been there since day one: randoms. Randoms who won't use medi-gel, not even on wave ****ing 9.
That's because they wasted all their medi-gel on Waves 1 and 2 of their previous game and don't want to shell out the credits for even a Recruit Pack.
#128
Posté 30 octobre 2012 - 09:36
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Overall I'd say the Collectors are a fun faction to fight, but there is one problem. Like with all other factions, the Collectors do have a cheesy unit: the scion. Massive damage cannon blasts that seem to always drop you down to shield gate (even when in cover), that also delay shield regeneration, aren't really fun to deal with. The massive damage comes from a double damage bug though, so hopefully once that's fixed the scion won't seem like such a cheap PoS.
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#129
Posté 30 octobre 2012 - 09:40
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I think they're the most fun - mainly due to the varying nature of what you are up against.
Geth just ****** me off and Cerberus lose all enjoyment when I see literal walls of phantoms/dragoons coming at me.
Reapers are fun too, but the novelty factor of the Collectors hasn't worn off for me yet.
Geth just ****** me off and Cerberus lose all enjoyment when I see literal walls of phantoms/dragoons coming at me.
Reapers are fun too, but the novelty factor of the Collectors hasn't worn off for me yet.
#130
Posté 30 octobre 2012 - 09:58
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Chameleonbot wrote...
I think I've lost count of how many times I have been left on the 10th wave doing the objective by myself because everyone has been slaughtered pathetically by the Collectors.
Only for me to waste my medigels to revive myself and get collectively (lolpun) mugged by 9 Troopers/Abominations and sniped by Scions while trying to deactivate a beacon or whatever.
Literally next to never had this issue before but now it happens at LEAST 3 times a session of playing ME MP.
Don't think I'll search "Unknown" faction ever again until people actually learn how to fight them properly.
PS: Scions can burn in hell, they despirately need a nerf. Most OP unit in the game.
They are the funnest faction to play against. No exploits, no boring grandefests.
#131
Posté 30 octobre 2012 - 11:30
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I would also add, that from some reason, collectors seem to be easiest class to be "Pulled". So I had quite a fun with my Drell Adept against them. That was on gold. Playing plat with in PUG is bit hardcore for me...
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#132
Posté 30 octobre 2012 - 12:57
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Xaijin wrote...
Chameleonbot wrote...
I think I've lost count of how many times I have been left on the 10th wave doing the objective by myself because everyone has been slaughtered pathetically by the Collectors.
Only for me to waste my medigels to revive myself and get collectively (lolpun) mugged by 9 Troopers/Abominations and sniped by Scions while trying to deactivate a beacon or whatever.
Literally next to never had this issue before but now it happens at LEAST 3 times a session of playing ME MP.
Don't think I'll search "Unknown" faction ever again until people actually learn how to fight them properly.
PS: Scions can burn in hell, they despirately need a nerf. Most OP unit in the game.
They are the funnest faction to play against. No exploits, no boring grandefests.
http://social.biowar...ndex/14601238/1
According to the information posted in that thread (which has been confirmed), Collectors take reduced damage from biotic/tech combos. Scions also deal double damage with their arm cannons. Unfortunate bugs, but this is the current state of the Collectors. So right now, the Collectors are bringin' on the cheese.
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#133
Posté 30 octobre 2012 - 07:26
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One reason Collectors feel like they are at least a difficulty above whatever difficulty you set the game at (bronze against them often feels like Silver, for instance) is the lowest level unit is as powerful as most other faction high level units. The Abomination. It is the toughest common low grade unit of any faction. It can stop you from shooting, walk through your heavy or light melee attack, walk through your bullet shots sometimes, then it can beat you down more than any other low level unit just from melee and on top of all that it can blow up which can not only take you down if all the previous actions have not but your entire team as well. Even if they do not explode, they rapidly grab you and hold you still for fire from their allies or they swamp you with 2 to 6 of them coming at you at once.
The Scions are alot like the Primes with similar heavy plasma round long range attacks, slow lumbering movements, and powerful melee attacks, PLUS they have granade bombardment from long range with incredible accuracy more so than their plasma rifle rounds which is pretty bizarre. Sure their humps are a weak spot but it still takes many hits to take them down even using that as the target. And often times you have at least 2 of them together or more which makes it all the harder.
Praetorians are the most powerful top level enemy unit in the game. They are fast, have powerful long range laser eye attacks that goes right through the THICKEST cover as if there was nothing there. They can melee you or instant kill you at close range. And they HOVER above ground several feet which makes hitting them with anything much harder it is a built in agility like defense bonus you usually only see on units like the Phantom.
Finally, you have several units at once that can become super powerful with Possession. Even though it should only be one unit at a time for it to make sense with some cool down times until the next possession. The single player certainly has longer cool down times than the multiple player. The cool down time could be slightly faster the higher up the level of difficulty if it made more sense with in its own game rule mechanics.
And it is often said they are the least cheap enemy faction? Yet they also do plenty of things that have been considered cheap when the same types of things were done by other factions. This is still not a matter of strategy aligned difficulty measures. There are no units that buff that you can take down to gain advantage. There are no strategic points to take to give you advantage or take one away from the enemy. There is no apparent weaknesses to tactically counter in some units such as Praetorians, which has all the best advantages of the top Boss units of every other faction and NONE of their weaknesses.
The Scions are alot like the Primes with similar heavy plasma round long range attacks, slow lumbering movements, and powerful melee attacks, PLUS they have granade bombardment from long range with incredible accuracy more so than their plasma rifle rounds which is pretty bizarre. Sure their humps are a weak spot but it still takes many hits to take them down even using that as the target. And often times you have at least 2 of them together or more which makes it all the harder.
Praetorians are the most powerful top level enemy unit in the game. They are fast, have powerful long range laser eye attacks that goes right through the THICKEST cover as if there was nothing there. They can melee you or instant kill you at close range. And they HOVER above ground several feet which makes hitting them with anything much harder it is a built in agility like defense bonus you usually only see on units like the Phantom.
Finally, you have several units at once that can become super powerful with Possession. Even though it should only be one unit at a time for it to make sense with some cool down times until the next possession. The single player certainly has longer cool down times than the multiple player. The cool down time could be slightly faster the higher up the level of difficulty if it made more sense with in its own game rule mechanics.
And it is often said they are the least cheap enemy faction? Yet they also do plenty of things that have been considered cheap when the same types of things were done by other factions. This is still not a matter of strategy aligned difficulty measures. There are no units that buff that you can take down to gain advantage. There are no strategic points to take to give you advantage or take one away from the enemy. There is no apparent weaknesses to tactically counter in some units such as Praetorians, which has all the best advantages of the top Boss units of every other faction and NONE of their weaknesses.
Modifié par Xeraphas, 30 octobre 2012 - 07:27 .
#134
Posté 30 octobre 2012 - 07:28
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Collectors are the fun in this game.
geth = stun lock city
reapers = hardly a challenge city
cerberus = only annoying thing we have is turrets city
collectors = everything about us is actually fun and can bare a challenge, also team kill abomination city
geth = stun lock city
reapers = hardly a challenge city
cerberus = only annoying thing we have is turrets city
collectors = everything about us is actually fun and can bare a challenge, also team kill abomination city
#135
Posté 30 octobre 2012 - 07:31
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I've had my share of bad games vs them too... bloody people going off and trying to be heroes, then I try to be hero and we all die! XD
Should stop trying to be one I guess.
Should stop trying to be one I guess.
#136
Posté 30 octobre 2012 - 07:33
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Collectors have added fun to the game.
#137
Posté 30 octobre 2012 - 07:33
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Personally I'm glad the collectors are back, I've missed them, and their nice, big, easily-targeted heads....
Granted having your hacking-circle swarmed by Praetorians and Abominations is a pain, as is having your Pizza-Delivery guy attacked by a Possessed Scion who is passing out his cluster bombs like its viagra at the old folk's shelter....but they are a challenge and to me it makes sense. The Reaper enemies are what the Reapers have thrown together for the invasion (litteraly in some cases...ie Brute) They've had the Collectors under their control for thousands of years, plenty of time to make an effective force of shock troopers out of them.
Only thing I really don't like about them is the Scion Death Ray making my tanking characters cry like the new guy in the prison shower.
Granted having your hacking-circle swarmed by Praetorians and Abominations is a pain, as is having your Pizza-Delivery guy attacked by a Possessed Scion who is passing out his cluster bombs like its viagra at the old folk's shelter....but they are a challenge and to me it makes sense. The Reaper enemies are what the Reapers have thrown together for the invasion (litteraly in some cases...ie Brute) They've had the Collectors under their control for thousands of years, plenty of time to make an effective force of shock troopers out of them.
Only thing I really don't like about them is the Scion Death Ray making my tanking characters cry like the new guy in the prison shower.
