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Decided to watch the ending, and honestly it's not that bad in comparison to ME3. Thankfully it was just Desmond's ending that "sucked", Connor's was pretty good. But yeah, no one really cared that much for Desmond, it's always been the historical assassins that have been the center of the series. I will admit that the ending does make for an interesting future for the franchise in giving more importance to the 'present' timeline.

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So I'm assuming writers in the Gaming Industry are generally getting worse?

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Sharkey1337 wrote...

Decided to watch the ending, and honestly it's not that bad in comparison to ME3. Thankfully it was just Desmond's ending that "sucked", Connor's was pretty good. But yeah, no one really cared that much for Desmond, it's always been the historical assassins that have been the center of the series. I will admit that the ending does make for an interesting future for the franchise in giving more importance to the 'present' timeline.


Hopefully they drop the modern day stuff all together and stick with historical fiction. 

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Someone's gonna have to explain to me why it's bad.

You hated it in ME3 because none of your choices mattered, and it didn't make sense within ME's lore.

In Assassin's Creed, you don't make choices, and the ending made perfect sense with the lore.

So literally the two main problems with ME3's ending are completely non-existent in ACIII. So what's the issue?

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All the AC games in my opinion are better than ME3. Don't get me wrong, I like ME3 as a game but still the worst in the series for me. Why do people think that ME3 would have choices just like the AC games? They are two different games as somebody pointed out earlier in this topic. But with the AC games, I get a lot of enjoyment out of them. I am hoping to get that enjoyment out of ME3 sometime but just don't know when. But there are more dlcs coming out so maybe I will again.

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Robhuzz wrote...

Having no choice (when the game was also not marketed as such) seems better to me than having a mere illusion of choice.

Hell, BioWare spent so much time telling us it was 'our' Shepard, and 'our' story, that when they took control completely out of our hands and forced a 'choice' between 3 equally craptastic endings, I'd say that was MUCH worse than the AC ending I just watched. It seemed quite bad but ME3's ending was on a whole different scale. And the epilogue seemed to mean something (not an AC fan so I do not know) when all we received was the stargazer - final slap in the face - scene.

Oh and let's not forget, ME3's ending changed the main plot of the game to a nonexistent problem that the catalyst star brat made up and simply cannot let go. A point that was solved in ME2 and further put in the ground with the peace between the Geth and Quarians in ME3. AC didn't do any of that. No. ME3's ending is much, much worse...


I don't envy those anxious for the AC3 release though...

^Spot on.

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I do not know nearly enough about AC to formulate anything beyond a biased opinion. From what I saw (youtubing the ending) it seemed half-decent, albeit with a definite "cliffhanger" vibe. If someone wants to fill me in on the details. That would help but otherwise I cannot condemn it. Granted, Ubisoft does not have a sparkling record.

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Logan Cloud wrote...

Someone's gonna have to explain to me why it's bad.

You hated it in ME3 because none of your choices mattered, and it didn't make sense within ME's lore.

In Assassin's Creed, you don't make choices, and the ending made perfect sense with the lore.

So literally the two main problems with ME3's ending are completely non-existent in ACIII. So what's the issue?

I can't really seehow ME3's ending goes ageinst the lore.....Added, what's wrong withthe AC3 ending is that it's too sudden. It just ends with nothing anwsered.

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The sudden inclusion of space magic. I actually like ME3's endings, but that was a little far-fetched.

Probably for a reason too. That doesn't make it bad.

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Oh, and it's even bleaker. Who wants to troll the Ubisoft forums?


You already know the ending to AC3 and it has just come out. That is just sad. Do not compare AC to ME there is no greater insult then to be compared to ME3. I wouldn't condemn even the worst games to be compared to ME3 it is the only ending in which i have been truly annoyed. Edit: They were making AC3 before Revelations even came out and considering the ending to ME3 was botched by the creators on purpose towards the end i hardly think it was copied. If anything AC stuck to their plan unlike ME.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Now to wait 4 months for the AC3 Extended Cut. Also time for conspiracy theories. Maybe it was all a dream (inside the already virtual reality)?


This confirms IT! XD

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Raiden Storm wrote...

Dasher1010 wrote...

Oh, and it's even bleaker. Who wants to troll the Ubisoft forums?


You already know the ending to AC3 and it has just come out. That is just sad. Do not compare AC to ME there is no greater insult then to be compared to ME3. I wouldn't condemn even the worst games to be compared to ME3 it is the only ending in which i have been truly annoyed.


Lucky you. The ending was the thing that annoyed me least.

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I pre-ordered AC3 (The Join Or Die edition for my PS3) and this leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Of course, I always followed the Assassin's story (The supernatural things have ruined the AC storyline.) Luckily I haven't got my copy of AC3 yet, still being dispatched.

But seriously, it can't be worse than ME3's ending. It just can't be. Well...at least Ubisoft won't say that the ending is art, maybe they'll try to patch it up with a "True Ending" DLC.

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Logan Cloud wrote...

The sudden inclusion of space magic. I actually like ME3's endings, but that was a little far-fetched.

Probably for a reason too. That doesn't make it bad.

Go ahead and call synthesis space magic but destory and control were fully explained outside of why you had to shot the pipe.

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Bourne Endeavor wrote...

I do not know nearly enough about AC to formulate anything beyond a biased opinion. From what I saw (youtubing the ending) it seemed half-decent, albeit with a definite "cliffhanger" vibe. If someone wants to fill me in on the details. That would help but otherwise I cannot condemn it. Granted, Ubisoft does not have a sparkling record.

As some one who fully understands the AC story line...I have to say you're spot on. Theending of AC3 is sudden but all the ac ending are sudden cliffhangers.
The ending follows the lore. The only real problem is that nothing is explained about what happens after. 

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ZeCollectorDestroya wrote...

I pre-ordered AC3 (The Join Or Die edition for my PS3) and this leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Of course, I always followed the Assassin's story (The supernatural things have ruined the AC storyline.) Luckily I haven't got my copy of AC3 yet, still being dispatched.

But seriously, it can't be worse than ME3's ending. It just can't be. Well...at least Ubisoft won't say that the ending is art, maybe they'll try to patch it up with a "True Ending" DLC.

There's nothing supernatural about AC. It's explained that it just science we don't understand...Not magic.

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dreman9999 wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

The sudden inclusion of space magic. I actually like ME3's endings, but that was a little far-fetched.

Probably for a reason too. That doesn't make it bad.

Go ahead and call synthesis space magic but destory and control were full explained outside of why you had to shot the pipe.


Control sure. Horizon did that. Destroy just works because... well it does. I guess AI's don't like the color red.

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So bad ending = Character doesn't live happily ever after?

You guys are so predictable.

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Ticonderoga117 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

The sudden inclusion of space magic. I actually like ME3's endings, but that was a little far-fetched.

Probably for a reason too. That doesn't make it bad.

Go ahead and call synthesis space magic but destory and control were full explained outside of why you had to shot the pipe.


Control sure. Horizon did that. Destroy just works because... well it does. I guess AI's don't like the color red.

You're told destory effects all tech and that all tech can be easily repaired. AI's are just brain dead. That basicly means the destory option is an like an emp.

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dreman9999 wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

Someone's gonna have to explain to me why it's bad.

You hated it in ME3 because none of your choices mattered, and it didn't make sense within ME's lore.

In Assassin's Creed, you don't make choices, and the ending made perfect sense with the lore.

So literally the two main problems with ME3's ending are completely non-existent in ACIII. So what's the issue?

I can't really seehow ME3's ending goes ageinst the lore.....Added, what's wrong withthe AC3 ending is that it's too sudden. It just ends with nothing anwsered.


In fairness: Assassin's Creed has a proud tradition of not answering any questions since 2007. 

The mandatory hero sacrifice trope seems to be at its worst in the AC3 ending. Luckily, Desmond sucks and won't be missed. 

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Eterna5 wrote...

So bad ending = Character doesn't live happily ever after?

You guys are so predictable.


Almost as predictable as that baseless accusation.

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dreman9999 wrote...
You're told destory effects all tech and that all tech can be easily repaired. AI's are just brain dead. That basicly means the destory option is an like an emp.


But it's not a true EMP. It's visible red light.

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

So bad ending = Character doesn't live happily ever after?

You guys are so predictable.


Almost as predictable as that baseless accusation.


But that is the case. What else is there that is the issue that is not an issue with other AC endings?

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Ticonderoga117 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
You're told destory effects all tech and that all tech can be easily repaired. AI's are just brain dead. That basicly means the destory option is an like an emp.


But it's not a true EMP. It's visible red light.

I'm sorry, what? It matters not what color it is. It's still an emp.

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NoUserNameHere wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

Someone's gonna have to explain to me why it's bad.

You hated it in ME3 because none of your choices mattered, and it didn't make sense within ME's lore.

In Assassin's Creed, you don't make choices, and the ending made perfect sense with the lore.

So literally the two main problems with ME3's ending are completely non-existent in ACIII. So what's the issue?

I can't really seehow ME3's ending goes ageinst the lore.....Added, what's wrong withthe AC3 ending is that it's too sudden. It just ends with nothing anwsered.


In fairness: Assassin's Creed has a proud tradition of not answering any questions since 2007. 

The mandatory hero sacrifice trope seems to be at its worst in the AC3 ending. Luckily, Desmond sucks and won't be missed. 

What is so bad about the mandatory hero sacrifice? AC alway brought with it the concept of great scarific for the greater good.