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[Shadow Storm]

dreman9999 wrote...

NoUserNameHere wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

Someone's gonna have to explain to me why it's bad.

You hated it in ME3 because none of your choices mattered, and it didn't make sense within ME's lore.

In Assassin's Creed, you don't make choices, and the ending made perfect sense with the lore.

So literally the two main problems with ME3's ending are completely non-existent in ACIII. So what's the issue?

I can't really seehow ME3's ending goes ageinst the lore.....Added, what's wrong withthe AC3 ending is that it's too sudden. It just ends with nothing anwsered.

In fairness: Assassin's Creed has a proud tradition of not answering any questions since 2007. 

The mandatory hero sacrifice trope seems to be at its worst in the AC3 ending. Luckily, Desmond sucks and won't be missed. 

What is so bad about the mandatory hero sacrifice? AC alway brought with it the concept of great scarific for the greater good.

WTF where does it say that Desmond died? He just touches the pedestal and drops to the ground since when does that count as death in a game. Besides I am sure the good old queen bee will have use for him yet.

Modifié par Raiden Storm, 30 octobre 2012 - 04:40 .

[AresKeith]

dreman9999 wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

So bad ending = Character doesn't live happily ever after?

You guys are so predictable.

Almost as predictable as that baseless accusation.

But that is the case. What else is there that is the issue that is not an issue with other AC endings?

Maybe because not that many people actually care about Desmond

[NoUserNameHere]

Raiden Storm wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

NoUserNameHere wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

Someone's gonna have to explain to me why it's bad.

You hated it in ME3 because none of your choices mattered, and it didn't make sense within ME's lore.

In Assassin's Creed, you don't make choices, and the ending made perfect sense with the lore.

So literally the two main problems with ME3's ending are completely non-existent in ACIII. So what's the issue?

I can't really seehow ME3's ending goes ageinst the lore.....Added, what's wrong withthe AC3 ending is that it's too sudden. It just ends with nothing anwsered.

In fairness: Assassin's Creed has a proud tradition of not answering any questions since 2007. 

The mandatory hero sacrifice trope seems to be at its worst in the AC3 ending. Luckily, Desmond sucks and won't be missed. 

What is so bad about the mandatory hero sacrifice? AC alway brought with it the concept of great scarific for the greater good.

WTF where does it say that Desmond died? He just touches the pedestal and drops to the ground since when does that count as death in a game. Besides I am sure the good old queen bee will have use for him yet.

... well he looked dead to me. 

Look, let's just say I hope he's dead. 

[Ticonderoga117]

dreman9999 wrote...
I'm sorry, what? It matters not what color it is. It's still an emp.

Well it kinda does. That kind of effect has no color to it.

[dreman9999]

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

So bad ending = Character doesn't live happily ever after?

You guys are so predictable.

Almost as predictable as that baseless accusation.

But that is the case. What else is there that is the issue that is not an issue with other AC endings?

Maybe because not that many people actually care about Desmond

Also, not a reason for an ending to be bad. It's like saying Mordin's death is horrible because he is well liked.

Modifié par dreman9999, 30 octobre 2012 - 05:07 .

[dreman9999]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
I'm sorry, what? It matters not what color it is. It's still an emp.

Well it kinda does. That kind of effect has no color to it.

Really. The color does not matter.

[dreman9999]

NoUserNameHere wrote...

Raiden Storm wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

NoUserNameHere wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

Someone's gonna have to explain to me why it's bad.

You hated it in ME3 because none of your choices mattered, and it didn't make sense within ME's lore.

In Assassin's Creed, you don't make choices, and the ending made perfect sense with the lore.

So literally the two main problems with ME3's ending are completely non-existent in ACIII. So what's the issue?

I can't really seehow ME3's ending goes ageinst the lore.....Added, what's wrong withthe AC3 ending is that it's too sudden. It just ends with nothing anwsered.

In fairness: Assassin's Creed has a proud tradition of not answering any questions since 2007. 

The mandatory hero sacrifice trope seems to be at its worst in the AC3 ending. Luckily, Desmond sucks and won't be missed. 

What is so bad about the mandatory hero sacrifice? AC alway brought with it the concept of great scarific for the greater good.

WTF where does it say that Desmond died? He just touches the pedestal and drops to the ground since when does that count as death in a game. Besides I am sure the good old queen bee will have use for him yet.

... well he looked dead to me. 

Look, let's just say I hope he's dead. 

And that's the problem with the AC3 ending. It does not clearly expline anything....But that's how all AC endings are like.

[AresKeith]

@Dreman how about instead of making yourself an arse as always, you stop assuming you know what people don't like

One of the problems with the ending is that your siding with the bad guy at the end

[dreman9999]

AresKeith wrote...

@Dreman how about instead of making yourself an arse as always, you stop assuming you know what people don't like

One of the problems with the ending is that your siding with the bad guy at the end

That's also is not a problem. This is not the final part of the story but a cliffhanger. We don't know what is happening next. This is a to be continued , like all the other AC endings.

Modifié par dreman9999, 30 octobre 2012 - 05:08 .

[AresKeith]

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

@Dreman how about instead of making yourself an arse as always, you stop assuming you know what people don't like

One of the problems with the ending is that your siding with the bad guy at the end

That's also is not a problem. This is not the final part of the story but a cliffhanger. We don't know what is happening next. This is a to be continued , like all the other AC endings.

This is the end of Desmonds journey, we already know there's gonna be more AC

And we do know what supposedly happens since they already explained it before the ending started

[inko1nsiderate]

AresKeith wrote...

@Dreman how about instead of making yourself an arse as always, you stop assuming you know what people don't like

One of the problems with the ending is that your siding with the bad guy at the end

Is the lady you side with a bad guy?  I haven't played any AC.

Also... not to be overly pedantic or anything, but...you've never engaged in hostilities with the Catalyst up until the last moment, so it is reasonable to think that using him to solve the Reaper problem is the exact same as siding with the bad guy of the games.  He is a representation of the Reaper's combined intellgience, but that doesn't mean he directly cotnrolls the Reaper.  I will now use an analogy no one here will understand.  It is kind of like how I can write a representation of SU(2) to be a set of three 2x2 matrices + the identity (the Pauli matrices).  I can even write other matrices as linear combinations of the Pauli matrices, but that doesn't mean if I change something about these matrices that I change the representation of SU(2) or affect the Pauli matrices in anyway.  It is like the Catalyst is just the abstract representation of the Reapers, and contains all the same group theoretic properties of the Reapers, but that doesn't mean the two interact in any meaningful way.  

So in short, are you really siding with the bad guy at the end of ME3?  I'd say that it is fair to think you are, but I'd also say it is fair to think you are not siding with the bad guy at the end of ME3.  Just sayin'.

Modifié par inko1nsiderate, 30 octobre 2012 - 05:19 .

[EnvyTB075]

Oh hey look, its Dreman and his inability to put multiple replies into a single post.

Just don't bother trying to understand what he says, theres no point because i doubt even he has a clue what hes saying either.

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 30 octobre 2012 - 05:20 .

[goose2989]

iakus wrote...

Dasher1010 wrote...

Oh, and it's even bleaker. Who wants to troll the Ubisoft forums?

At least AC doesn't pretend your choices matter

Very true 

[AresKeith]

inko1nsiderate wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

@Dreman how about instead of making yourself an arse as always, you stop assuming you know what people don't like

One of the problems with the ending is that your siding with the bad guy at the end

Is the lady you side with a bad guy?  I haven't played any AC.

Also... not to be overly pedantic or anything, but...you've never engaged in hostilities with the Catalyst up until the last moment, so it is reasonable to think that using him to solve the Reaper problem is the exact same as siding with the bad guy of the games.  He is a representation of the Reaper's combined intellgience, but that doesn't mean he directly cotnrolls the Reaper.  I will now use an analogy no one here willunderstand.  It is kind of like how I can write a representation of SU(2) to be a set of three 2x2 matrices + the identity (the Pauli matrices).  I can even write other matrices as linear combinations of the Pauli matrices, but that doesn't mean if I change something about these matrices that I change the representation of SU(2) or change the affect the Pauli matrices in anyway.  It is like the Catalyst is just the abstract representation of the Reapers, and contains all the same group theoretic properties of the Reapers, but that doesn't mean the two interact in any meaningful way.  

So in short, are you really siding with the bad guy at the end of ME3?  I'd say that it is fair to think you are, but I'd also say it is fair to think you are not siding with the bad guy at the end of ME3.  Just sayin'.

Yea, Juno wanted to control all over humanity and when Desmond activated it, he freed Juno which allowed her to control everyone like she tried the first time

[dreman9999]

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

@Dreman how about instead of making yourself an arse as always, you stop assuming you know what people don't like

One of the problems with the ending is that your siding with the bad guy at the end

That's also is not a problem. This is not the final part of the story but a cliffhanger. We don't know what is happening next. This is a to be continued , like all the other AC endings.

This is the end of Desmonds journey, we already know there's gonna be more AC

And we do know what supposedly happens since they already explained it before the ending started

I learn one thing form AC is never think you know absolutly what is going to happen next. (And once you see where AC3 story goes you'll truely understand what I mean.) Desmonds story maybe over , as a pespective, but that does not mean he is dead.
Even then, that does not mean all is lost.
A story is not bad because a character you did not want to die died or met his/her end in a way you did not what them to.

Modifié par dreman9999, 30 octobre 2012 - 05:22 .

[goose2989]

Steelcan wrote...

"Hey everyone, lets make an ending that everybody is going to hate. It worked so well for ME3 after all."

Said no smart person ever

[dreman9999]

goose2989 wrote...

iakus wrote...

Dasher1010 wrote...

Oh, and it's even bleaker. Who wants to troll the Ubisoft forums?

At least AC doesn't pretend your choices matter

Very true 

We have 4 variations of destroy and 3 for control...Choice matters.

Modifié par dreman9999, 30 octobre 2012 - 05:22 .

[Dasher1010]

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

@Dreman how about instead of making yourself an arse as always, you stop assuming you know what people don't like

One of the problems with the ending is that your siding with the bad guy at the end

That's also is not a problem. This is not the final part of the story but a cliffhanger. We don't know what is happening next. This is a to be continued , like all the other AC endings.

This is the end of Desmonds journey, we already know there's gonna be more AC

And we do know what supposedly happens since they already explained it before the ending started

I learn one thing form AC is never thing you know absolutley what isgoing to happen next. (And once you see where AC3 story goes you'll truely understand what I mean.) Desmonds story maybe over , as a pespective, but that does not mean he is dead.
Even then, that does not mean all is lost.
A story is not bad because a character you did not want to die died or met his/her end in a way you did not what them to.

I'm not agisnt the protaonist dieing. I'm just for an ending that's well executed.

[inko1nsiderate]

AresKeith wrote...

Yea, Juno wanted to control all over humanity and when Desmond activated it, he freed Juno which allowed her to control everyone like she tried the first time

Huh, well thanks for the info.  I can see how that can be annoying, but it seems to work better because the alternative he is shown is pretty horrible.  Like I said, haven't played any AC games, but it doesn't seem super crazy and out of no where to me... except I guess the part where she had apparently died or something?

[dreman9999]

Dasher1010 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

@Dreman how about instead of making yourself an arse as always, you stop assuming you know what people don't like

One of the problems with the ending is that your siding with the bad guy at the end

That's also is not a problem. This is not the final part of the story but a cliffhanger. We don't know what is happening next. This is a to be continued , like all the other AC endings.

This is the end of Desmonds journey, we already know there's gonna be more AC

And we do know what supposedly happens since they already explained it before the ending started

I learn one thing form AC is never thing you know absolutley what isgoing to happen next. (And once you see where AC3 story goes you'll truely understand what I mean.) Desmonds story maybe over , as a pespective, but that does not mean he is dead.
Even then, that does not mean all is lost.
A story is not bad because a character you did not want to die died or met his/her end in a way you did not what them to.

I'm not agisnt the protaonist dieing. I'm just for an ending that's well executed.

And that what AC endings always lacked. Every ending in the series alway was sudden leaving more questions then anwsers.

[AresKeith]

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

@Dreman how about instead of making yourself an arse as always, you stop assuming you know what people don't like

One of the problems with the ending is that your siding with the bad guy at the end

That's also is not a problem. This is not the final part of the story but a cliffhanger. We don't know what is happening next. This is a to be continued , like all the other AC endings.

This is the end of Desmonds journey, we already know there's gonna be more AC

And we do know what supposedly happens since they already explained it before the ending started

I learn one thing form AC is never thing you know absolutley what isgoing to happen next. (And once you see where AC3 story goes you'll truely understand what I mean.) Desmonds story maybe over , as a pespective, but that does not mean he is dead.
Even then, that does not mean all is lost.
A story is not bad because a character you did not want to die died or met his/her end in a way you did not what them to.

1. We already know the AC series isn't over

2. Who said anything about the story being bad, I personally didn't care about Desmond or his part of the story.

I cared about Altair's, Ezio, and now Conner's story because they are the true face of AC

[Solmanian]

Have they no shame? copying the ME ending almost to the latter? Unleash the horde!

[dreman9999]

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

@Dreman how about instead of making yourself an arse as always, you stop assuming you know what people don't like

One of the problems with the ending is that your siding with the bad guy at the end

That's also is not a problem. This is not the final part of the story but a cliffhanger. We don't know what is happening next. This is a to be continued , like all the other AC endings.

This is the end of Desmonds journey, we already know there's gonna be more AC

And we do know what supposedly happens since they already explained it before the ending started

I learn one thing form AC is never thing you know absolutley what isgoing to happen next. (And once you see where AC3 story goes you'll truely understand what I mean.) Desmonds story maybe over , as a pespective, but that does not mean he is dead.
Even then, that does not mean all is lost.
A story is not bad because a character you did not want to die died or met his/her end in a way you did not what them to.

1. We already know the AC series isn't over

2. Who said anything about the story being bad, I personally didn't care about Desmond or his part of the story.

I cared about Altair's, Ezio, and now Conner's story because they are the true face of AC

AresKeith wrote...



Maybe because not that many people actually care about Desmond 

[The Spamming Troll]

ive seen its buggy too. atleast i know i can get it out of bargain bin after some patches.

thanks for setting the standard for AAA games bioware. now i can get em cheap and better then release. if only i could get em on PC id make em even better.

[AresKeith]

Dreman, and that has to do with my comment how?