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AC3 Copied ME3's Ending but offers no choice


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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

I just watched the ending. Wow was that bad.

The video game industry really needs to start hiring some real writers. I don't know what's been up with this year and bad game endings. I'm glad i've never been invested in the AC series, but i know how the fans must be feeling.


What's happening is that as gaming has gotten bigger and more lucrative the nerdy white guy culture that made it successful is being replaced by hotshot Hollywood writers, big business executives, and failed artists who couldn't land movie gigs.

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SNascimento wrote...

It has nothing to do with ME3's ending. The simple fact it didn't offer any choice already make them incomparable.


They did offer the main character a choice though...
He picked synthesis & earth gets low ems destroyed anyway...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 29 octobre 2012 - 09:34 .


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SNascimento wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

SNascimento wrote...

It has nothing to do with ME3's ending. The simple fact it didn't offer any choice already make them incomparable.


It only has two things in common.

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Yeah, we can already say they are as similar as a human being and a tree, for example. 


Well it ends both bleak and unsatisfying as ME3. The 2nd thing it has in common i can't really say cause it's too spoilery.

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Sir Topham Hat wrote...

My god... ME3 copies Deus Ex, now AC3 is copying ME3. It's like...
Copyception.

Endinggate

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I know absolutely nothing about AC. But I saw a ghost and planets glowing like disco lights.

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Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

I just watched the ending. Wow was that bad.

The video game industry really needs to start hiring some real writers. I don't know what's been up with this year and bad game endings. I'm glad i've never been invested in the AC series, but i know how the fans must be feeling.


What's happening is that as gaming has gotten bigger and more lucrative the nerdy white guy culture that made it successful is being replaced by hotshot Hollywood writers, big business executives, and failed artists who couldn't land movie gigs.


You know, that's probably fairly true.

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Good thing I never followed the Desmond part of the game

And I hope Ubisoft is trying to troll Bioware

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I don't play the AC games, but I was thinking about picking them up if I heard good things about AC3.

Looks like that's going to be a no then.

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Let's not pretend that films, television, or literature are that much better, though. Or better at all.

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David7204 wrote...

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

I just watched the ending. Wow was that bad.

The video game industry really needs to start hiring some real writers. I don't know what's been up with this year and bad game endings. I'm glad i've never been invested in the AC series, but i know how the fans must be feeling.


What's happening is that as gaming has gotten bigger and more lucrative the nerdy white guy culture that made it successful is being replaced by hotshot Hollywood writers, big business executives, and failed artists who couldn't land movie gigs.


You know, that's probably fairly true.


Yeah, I second this. I might also add an increasing trend toward more time/energy/focus on things like combat mechanics, which *can* sometimes mean less focus on things like dialogue/character development/storyline.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

I don't play the AC games, but I was thinking about picking them up if I heard good things about AC3.

Looks like that's going to be a no then.


A good number of AC folks will openly tell you that the modern-era stuff really is an ignorable side-element to the historical assassinations. They're almost separate entities.

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dreamgazer wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I don't play the AC games, but I was thinking about picking them up if I heard good things about AC3.

Looks like that's going to be a no then.


A good number of AC folks will openly tell you that the modern-era stuff really is an ignorable side-element to the historical assassinations. They're almost separate entities.


Yea, I never cared or paid attention to Desmonds part of the game. Always the other part of the game and the MP

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Angst and tragedy are easy and cheap. Easy, easy, easy. Such an easy, dependable, inexaustible source of conflict.

Now, meaning? That's hard.

Modifié par David7204, 29 octobre 2012 - 09:45 .


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Lol wow. Seems that 2012 was the year of bad writing for endings.

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I don't see a problem?

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darthnick427 wrote...

Lol wow. Seems that 2012 was the year of bad writing for endings.


There has to be a contest or something going on that we don't know lol

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I am a big AC fan so I am sure the ending will be better than ME3. If Desmond dies then I am not going to care unless the ending is not done well. Why is somebody posting a spoiler for a different game on this forum anyways? I think it is funny that people want to spoil themselves on a game that hasn't even come out yet and then say that the ending was copied from another game.

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The only AC games I've played are the first two. I watched Brotherhood and Revelation from Let's Plays and now it looks like I'll do the same for AC3.

And how the hell do you make an ending even bleaker than ME3's? Does the narrator say something like "Oh, and two weeks later everyone died of AIDS" at the very end of the game or something?

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SNascimento wrote...

It has nothing to do with ME3's ending. The simple fact it didn't offer any choice already make them incomparable.

Really? In ME3 original, your choice only changed the color of the explosions. Everything else was basically identical.

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:DDDDDDDDDDD I love this... this is not even the ending of the whole AC saga. :D I mean it is pretty obvious that it will continue in one form or another: maybe Mr. Miles is not that dead, or we will have a completely new protagonist and we will have to visit completely new eras of history with another bloodline. Even if it was its ending AC was never about its fantasy lore and its story (modern time). ...but I love how most people can't swallow grey things or events that does not take the goold old safe hollywood formula. All they want is their traditional heroic happy ending, where everything is as happy as it can be.

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Cashmoney007 wrote...

I am a big AC fan so I am sure the ending will be better than ME3. If Desmond dies then I am not going to care unless the ending is not done well. Why is somebody posting a spoiler for a different game on this forum anyways? I think it is funny that people want to spoil themselves on a game that hasn't even come out yet and then say that the ending was copied from another game.

. Get ready for disappointment 

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knightnblu wrote...

SNascimento wrote...

It has nothing to do with ME3's ending. The simple fact it didn't offer any choice already make them incomparable.

Really? In ME3 original, your choice only changed the color of the explosions. Everything else was basically identical.



You're right the execution of the vanilla ending was horrible and rushed, but with the EC all the endings have character, they also have different permutations and it introduces the reaper overmind way, way better. It was never the concept which bothered me, but the execution. 

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That felt less like "LOLart" and more like an obvious DLC hook. I can live with that.

ME3's ending is still worse, because BioWare intends to leave it in that state.

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knightnblu wrote...

SNascimento wrote...

It has nothing to do with ME3's ending. The simple fact it didn't offer any choice already make them incomparable.

Really? In ME3 original, your choice only changed the color of the explosions. Everything else was basically identical.


Of course, those different colors meant that different things were happening.

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Having no choice (when the game was also not marketed as such) seems better to me than having a mere illusion of choice.

Hell, BioWare spent so much time telling us it was 'our' Shepard, and 'our' story, that when they took control completely out of our hands and forced a 'choice' between 3 equally craptastic endings, I'd say that was MUCH worse than the AC ending I just watched. It seemed quite bad but ME3's ending was on a whole different scale. And the epilogue seemed to mean something (not an AC fan so I do not know) when all we received was the stargazer - final slap in the face - scene.

Oh and let's not forget, ME3's ending changed the main plot of the game to a nonexistent problem that the catalyst star brat made up and simply cannot let go. A point that was solved in ME2 and further put in the ground with the peace between the Geth and Quarians in ME3. AC didn't do any of that. No. ME3's ending is much, much worse...


I don't envy those anxious for the AC3 release though...

Modifié par Robhuzz, 29 octobre 2012 - 09:58 .