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Well that was a way to melt all endings of ME 3:
- Desmond got toasted like Shepard in Control
- The Earth has a GREEN glowing around itself like in Synthesis
- there were destruction on Earth like in Destroy and Hawk lives at the end like Shepard in High EMS Destroy (probably).

Who needs choices there if you got it all in one ending^^

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AresKeith wrote...

Arcian wrote...

It's becoming clear the video game industry is in a desperate need of writing talent.


They need more fan suggestions and less Super MAC :P


Cheers to that

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[quote]Steelcan wrote...

[quote]GimmeDaGun wrote...

[quote]Steelcan wrote...

 shown on screen. 
[/quote]. I didn't pay $80 to head canon the ending.<_<  But after the EC gave some closure, not as much as I would have preferred but oh well, I was finally able to start coming up with a head canon[/quote]


I didn't like it either, only it was obvious that the three endings had very different consequences. With the EC we actually see what are those consequences. It was closure enough for me. As for Shepard: I always thought that his story would end with the reaper threat. So his death was never a surprise to me. The breath scene is a nice addition though. You can at least assume that he carries on with his life, probably in peace finally.

[/quote]. I would have liked the breath scene to have been expanded on a little, maybe a scene with the LI?  Control, refuse, and synthesis choosers got closure on Shepard, but not us destroyers:crying:[/quote]



I wouldn't force the scene with the LI. That's a part which I definitely would let the players imagine for themselves: fan fiction. Everybody wants to finish their story in their own way, I guess. I'm fine with the Shepard taking a breath scene, though for many maybe it would have been a bit better if Shepard was confirmed being alive: sg. found by an Alliance patrol or rescue\\survey team; finishing the game (before the epilogue scene) with the line: "My God! Sir, it's him\\her, he\\she's alive!" and cut... or along those lines. 

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I find it funny the OP is stating this before AC3 is even released.

Even assuming he is in Newfoundland, and that his town is doing a midnight release, he still will be unable to get it for another 4 hours and 16 minutes from now.


Well, there's a gameplay video online that shows the ending:

http://youtu.be/jOnPz7XMP58#t=52m32s

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GimmeDaGun wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Anyone who tells you you should head canon your ending should be kicked in the balls.



It was a mistake obviously. They thought it would work. Well it didn't. That's why they created and released the EC which fixes it (yeah, certainly it does not please everybody's expectations, but fixes the ending we already had in the vanilla game).


I stil have issues with the star child and always will.  But I waited for the EC, and the ending was better.  The slide show was actually done quite well.  I would have done certain things in the ending quite differently.  But I don't work at Bioware.  As for AC3, I am not going to go spoil myself for a game that I am going to buy soon.  I like a happy ending in movies also.  But endings that are done well that make you think are not a bad thing.  

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Cashmoney007 wrote...

I stil have issues with the star child and always will.  But I waited for the EC, and the ending was better.  The slide show was actually done quite well.  I would have done certain things in the ending quite differently.  But I don't work at Bioware.  As for AC3, I am not going to go spoil myself for a game that I am going to buy soon.  I like a happy ending in movies also.  But endings that are done well that make you think are not a bad thing.  


It's not an ending, it's a cliffhanger so they can keep making AC games.<_<

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I find that hard to believe. Or maybe you're stretching the truth? Why would anyone want to copy one of the worst endings ever made?


Your mind is too simple to understand the pure genius of it... Don't worry maybe one day you will understand...

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I think the general point is, think your ending through before you release it.......

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OdanUrr wrote...

Cashmoney007 wrote...

I stil have issues with the star child and always will.  But I waited for the EC, and the ending was better.  The slide show was actually done quite well.  I would have done certain things in the ending quite differently.  But I don't work at Bioware.  As for AC3, I am not going to go spoil myself for a game that I am going to buy soon.  I like a happy ending in movies also.  But endings that are done well that make you think are not a bad thing.  


It's not an ending, it's a cliffhanger so they can keep making AC games.<_<


Which I'm ok with because I still didn't care about Desmond and his part of the story lol

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They've already said that AC3 is the end of Desmond's story, it is not however, the end of AC3 in general.

Besides that Ubisoft is notorious for releasing the actual endings/epilogues to their games months later.

Leonardo's kidnapping anyone?

The book burning DLC of AC2?

Its a money grab.

And while the AC endings do paralell ME3's with Cycles and trapped between a rock and a hard place, we do not know just how "out of left field" this actually was. It could have had a lot of foreshadowing in game, as opposed to the catalyst.

Furthermore even if the AC ending is not adequately foreshadowed, the fact that this clearly has a "to be continued" vibe, and the fact that the "Gods" Like Juno were deposed by humans back in their prime gives hope for the supposedly bleak future that is our eventual enslavement by Juno, whereas the Reapers are all but nigh unbeatable after the events of Priority earth if they're still alive.

So yeah. Don't expect this to have as big a backlash as ME3, they may have handled it properly in game.

The only problem I forsee is the disregard of previous cannon lore.

The "Gods" were destroyed by the solar flare, and yet now a dead one has a defense against it, one that she can apparently activate at will with a proverbial flick of her wrist.

Makes little sense.

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OdanUrr wrote...

Cashmoney007 wrote...

I stil have issues with the star child and always will.  But I waited for the EC, and the ending was better.  The slide show was actually done quite well.  I would have done certain things in the ending quite differently.  But I don't work at Bioware.  As for AC3, I am not going to go spoil myself for a game that I am going to buy soon.  I like a happy ending in movies also.  But endings that are done well that make you think are not a bad thing.  


It's not an ending, it's a cliffhanger so they can keep making AC games.<_<


If you've played the other games, that really shouldn't come as a surprise. :o

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I haven't seen much of AC3 (waiting for the pc version and don't want to spoil myself so I haven't read this thread beyond the title either) but let me say one thing:
An ending like ME3's would fit Assassins Creed perfectly. This series basically thrives on the weird, unexpected and quite off-putting plot developments. AC is a conspiracy thriller, not an epic space opera. It would make perfect sense if things are not what they seem and if you have no way to win outright. It might even make sense to change who the allies and the enemies are (they did it often enough already after all, just look at Lucy's story). If AC3 has an ending that is narratively comparable to ME3, it can be absolutely fine, maybe even brilliant, depending on the execution.
ME3's ending didn't fit ME. That was the problem. It may fit in other stories like (e.g. Deus Ex). AC3 may still have a bad ending (won't know until I saw it) but the fact that ithere may be similarities to ME3 doesn't diminish it IMO.

P.S.: While this is an ME3 spoiler forum, could people please avoid spoilers of other games/movies/whatever, at least in the thread title and at least for games/movies whatever that are hardly or not yet released? I'd be thankful.

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dreamgazer wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Cashmoney007 wrote...

I stil have issues with the star child and always will.  But I waited for the EC, and the ending was better.  The slide show was actually done quite well.  I would have done certain things in the ending quite differently.  But I don't work at Bioware.  As for AC3, I am not going to go spoil myself for a game that I am going to buy soon.  I like a happy ending in movies also.  But endings that are done well that make you think are not a bad thing.  


It's not an ending, it's a cliffhanger so they can keep making AC games.<_<


If you've played the other games, that really shouldn't come as a surprise. :o


I've played all of them and, yes, it doesn't exactly come as a surprise. I simply expected... more.

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dreamgazer wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Cashmoney007 wrote...

I stil have issues with the star child and always will.  But I waited for the EC, and the ending was better.  The slide show was actually done quite well.  I would have done certain things in the ending quite differently.  But I don't work at Bioware.  As for AC3, I am not going to go spoil myself for a game that I am going to buy soon.  I like a happy ending in movies also.  But endings that are done well that make you think are not a bad thing.  


It's not an ending, it's a cliffhanger so they can keep making AC games.<_<


If you've played the other games, that really shouldn't come as a surprise. :o


Haven't seen the ending, but man is this true for the AC series.  They extended what could have been done in 3 games into  what, 5 main games?  Its ridiculous.

And evidently they are leaving room for more....

<_<

Modifié par xAmilli0n, 29 octobre 2012 - 10:26 .


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Atherus wrote...

Well that was a way to melt all endings of ME 3:
- Desmond got toasted like Shepard in Control
- The Earth has a GREEN glowing around itself like in Synthesis
- there were destruction on Earth like in Destroy and Hawk lives at the end like Shepard in High EMS Destroy (probably).

Who needs choices there if you got it all in one ending^^



Ironic that both ME1 and AC1 were released in 2007 to a lot of fanfare and now they both end in 2012 on the same note.

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That felt less like "LOLart" and more like an obvious DLC hook. I can live with that.

ME3's ending is still worse, because BioWare intends to leave it in that state.


This.

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Oh and Also, desmond dying means little to people. Desmond was never the main star, despite Ubisoft claiming such. People cared more about the actual assassins.

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Any other AC fans not really care what happens to Desmond?

Modifié par Steelcan, 29 octobre 2012 - 10:29 .


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Steelcan wrote...

Any other AC fans not really care what happens to Desmond?


I'm afraid I care more about Desmond than I do about Connor.

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Nice. Apparently everybody has gone absolutely bananas.

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Who cares about Desmond's fate anyway?

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AC has always been about the gameplay for me since the part in ACII where (and I quote RoosterTeeth here) "you beat up the Pope and talk to aliens". It just came so quickly that the storyline was kind of marred. The Desmond and Ezio portions were still great up until the end of Brotherhood. In Revelations, Ezio (and Altair)'s stories were still strong, but Desmond's was starting to wane.

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It just might be possible that us ME fans are more sensitive to sh*tty endings than any other fanbase...........

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Altair, Ezio, Conner FTW

Modifié par AresKeith, 29 octobre 2012 - 10:35 .


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OdanUrr wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Any other AC fans not really care what happens to Desmond?


I'm afraid I care more about Desmond than I do about Connor.


Same here.