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#151
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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

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I do find it jarring how Anders went from being straight in Awakening to having a male lover in 2. Maybe he was just in the closet?

His entire character changed. I thought he was cool in Awakening, but I hated him in Dragon Age 2.


Yep, not-Anders was... hate inducing. Nothing to do with his sexual orientation.

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Also, non-party member Romances. Why does Hakwe/Warden only like the people from the band of merry misfits they travel with. My mercenary Hawke wants to marry a random rich noble heiress to gain legitimacy for his claim to the Viscouncy.


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I think want most people really want is just a neutral way to respond IE "Anders i think you are a very nice person but i'm just not into you" would have been 100% better then "I don't want you thinking that way" which made me want to slap my Hawke.


This is a reasonable request, in terms of wanting increased level of player agency.

Although I have no beef with Anders still taking this the wrong way and feeling rejected. Frankly to me it makes sense that sometimes characters would take innocuous things poorly. Plenty of opportunity to still become friends and see this as nothing more than a speedbump along the way.


I agree with what you mean in regards to "Some people are like that", after all, other characters are not so fussed if you do not share their feelings.

I think with Anders he just irritated a lot of people because he is so damn pushy about pretty much everything. Personally I was not that bothered, but I can completely see why he'd wind some people up.

I think that was a slight issue with DA2 though. All of the characters have very... strong personality traits. They don't seem to have any average, normal traits at all really.

Fenris is pretty much always pissed off.
Anders is really, really pushy about his beliefs.
Merrill is "cute" to the point it's almost like she is a kitten you are just supposed to D'awww at.
Carver is so jeaous he should actually be green.
Isabela should actually run a brothel.
Aveline is like a granite wall she is so uncompromising.
Sebastian is so... "pure".
Varric is... just so damn cool. I feel Hawke can never compare. (Joke really, I think he is the best character easily though).

Please do not get me wrong, I like their character traits, I just felt that they are all somewhat overdone a little bit. I imagine a lot of it was due to making their stances more clear so friendship and rivalry were a little more obvious, but at times it was almost overwhelming, as their main traits seem to completely define all of them.

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Machines Are Us wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

I think want most people really want is just a neutral way to respond IE "Anders i think you are a very nice person but i'm just not into you" would have been 100% better then "I don't want you thinking that way" which made me want to slap my Hawke.


This is a reasonable request, in terms of wanting increased level of player agency.

Although I have no beef with Anders still taking this the wrong way and feeling rejected. Frankly to me it makes sense that sometimes characters would take innocuous things poorly. Plenty of opportunity to still become friends and see this as nothing more than a speedbump along the way.


I agree with what you mean in regards to "Some people are like that", after all, other characters are not so fussed if you do not share their feelings.

I think with Anders he just irritated a lot of people because he is so damn pushy about pretty much everything. Personally I was not that bothered, but I can completely see why he'd wind some people up.

I think that was a slight issue with DA2 though. All of the characters have very... strong personality traits. They don't seem to have any average, normal traits at all really.

Fenris is pretty much always pissed off.
Anders is really, really pushy about his beliefs.
Merrill is "cute" to the point it's almost like she is a kitten you are just supposed to D'awww at.
Carver is so jeaous he should actually be green.
Isabela should actually run a brothel.
Aveline is like a granite wall she is so uncompromising.
Sebastian is so... "pure".
Varric is... just so damn cool. I feel Hawke can never compare. (Joke really, I think he is the best character easily though).

Please do not get me wrong, I like their character traits, I just felt that they are all somewhat overdone a little bit. I imagine a lot of it was due to making their stances more clear so friendship and rivalry were a little more obvious, but at times it was almost overwhelming, as their main traits seem to completely define all of them.


Hey, now.  Those characters aren't being static, they're being iconic.

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All of the characters have very... strong personality traits. They don't seem to have any average, normal traits at all really.


I find this to be pretty common for NPC companions in RPGs.  Do you think it'd be possible to do a similar breakdown of DAO's NPCs?

Modifié par Allan Schumacher, 31 octobre 2012 - 07:49 .


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Allan Schumacher wrote...

All of the characters have very... strong personality traits. They don't seem to have any average, normal traits at all really.


I find this to be pretty common for NPC companions in RPGs.  Do you think it'd be possible to do a similar breakdown of DAO's NPCs?


Morrigan = Ice Queen
Alistair = The Heart/ Token Good or Token Wholesome Teammate
Leliana = Mary Sue

I have to write paragraphs for more. But, essentially, everyone can be broken down into a trope. Tropes aren't bad per se, when not the sole force behind character development. These are coded pixellations with VOs, remember?

C'mon, even the DA lore and setting is one giant Medieval Fantasy trope. (The "[Lord]," with [Jesus] as his "Divine [son]), The [Roman Catholic/ Greek Orthodox] schism of the churches, the Four [Crusades] against the [Muslims]....)

Again, tropes aren't bad. Uninteresting tropes will no variation or anything exciting, unique, emotionally touching added to them are bad. 

And people will debate who is/ isn't a trope until the Freeze Death of the Universe. 

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Allan Schumacher wrote...

All of the characters have very... strong personality traits. They don't seem to have any average, normal traits at all really.


I find this to be pretty common for NPC companions in RPGs.  Do you think it'd be possible to do a similar breakdown of DAO's NPCs?


Hmmm, I think you probably could really. They do all have somewhat strong beliefs and personalities. I think the difference though is that they are a little less over the top and they are not really defined as much by a single characteristic.

Leliana for example. She is very devoted to the Maker and Andraste. At the same time she is a trained assassin, who also loves cute things and Orleisian fashion

It's hard to get across exactly what I mean, but replaying both games recently I feel that there isn't a whole lot to the other characters beyond their current "issues" and beliefs in DA2.

Most of the DA:O companions you can talk about the relevant issues (The blight), you can talk about their personal issues (their personal quests), you can talk about your own circumstances (romances, opinions) and you can talk about their pasts and histories.

In DA2 you couldn't really properly inquire into the NPC's as the only time you could really talk to them were when they had a personal quest or the "Questioning Beliefs" which came up after it was done. In both of those cases, the conversation is always about their personal beliefs (Fenris and Daenarius, Merrill with the mirror, etc.)

I felt that this direction made them feel a lot more limited, and that's probably why they feel so over the top with their attitudes; they don't have anything to really compare it to. There aren't any "normal" conversations to be had with some of them.

That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it does make it harder to sympathise or empathise with characters who have a vastly differing perspective, when they don't really have another dimension to their personality.

Oh, and I'd just like to say thank you for replying. It's great to see so many Bioware people responding and discussing these things.

Modifié par Machines Are Us, 31 octobre 2012 - 10:14 .


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To hop in here, I think the difference between between the DA:O personality types and the DA2 personality types has, actually, nothing to do with their personality at all.

DA2 characters are easily identified by their tropes/traits, just like DA:O. But the reasons they are like their personality are, essentially, one of the only things you ever talk to them about besides yourself.

Example: Sten is a no-nonsense, completely rigid, tactical taciturn. This because of his up ringing in the Qun. We find this is supported by his belief the Warden is wasting time doing quests such as the Urn, when the Blight should be the primary concern. This is slightly subverted by discussing his preference for sweets, like cookies and cake. Point being, entire discussions are devoted to topics other than the Qun or the friendship/romance with the Warden.

Zevran is a devil-may-care, morally ambiguous character due to being raised I. A ****house and then being sold into slavery to the Crows and trained as an assassin. This is supported by his general demeanor during conversations, by the fact that he bargains for his life to the very target whom he was hired to kill and tales of former exploits as being a Crow where he showed varying degrees of silliness and guile to survive and accomplish his mission. This is subverted by his tale of his Last Mission, where he was shown to be deeply in love with one of his former Crows and who he found was actually punished under false pretenses. Again, there are discussions of his homeland that are completely independent of his upbringing or his time with the Crows and, again, conversations focusing on the Warden's friendship/romance.

Anders is a tormented Mage who's possession by Justice and persecution as a mage makes him melodramatic and oftentimes overly aggressive. He talks of no other topics than the Mage rebellion, his possession by Justice or Hawke. Any variation with the Friend/Rivalry path will only focus on one of these three topics - Justice, Mages or Hawke.

Fenris is a sullen, caustically angry elf who's life of slavery as a living weapon makes him untrusting of others, especially mages. Regardless of his Friendship or Rivalry path, he still offers no conversation options that aren't about either his time as a slave (his master, his transformation, him losing his memory, his sister, etc.), his hatred of mages in general or Hawke.

In DA:O, I feel we had two major differences.

One, different topics of conversation other than the main character other than the 'hot' topics for the NPC. This is huge, as no one wants to talk of nothing but your personal hang-ups EVERY time you go to their house. The only conversation changes we see from most DA2 characters is when they are talking about Hawke... which is a little bit silly.

Two, there are subversions of this personality. Sten likes cookies, despite being a hard asp. Zevran actually cared for someone and picked a fatalistic assignment to end his suffering, despite not appearing to take anything seriously. Leliana is a girl-next-door, only cares about shoes ditz... who is subverted by the truth of being a master assassin bard.

DA2 had small subversions of these roles (mostly in the form of party banter), but the subversion was that characters who are super serious and stoic are actually being funny... and many times the way they express that comedy is by rolling their eyes (metaphorically, of course) or making snide comments... like a sullen, angry person would do, which isn't that much of a personality subversion.

I could keep going with both DA:O characters (Morrigan cares only for power, but not material, petty things - conversations about her past show that she talks about other things, including a subversion of this personality with the story of the locket) or DA2 characters (Merrill is the giggle-squee blood Mage, who is innocent to a fault, except for the fact that she is a malifecarum, only points of discussion are being away from her clan and the mirror and, of course, Hawke) but I think I've made my round-about point.

We know most of what we know about Orlais, Antiva and the Qun from hearing Zevran, Leliana and Sten discuss their homelands, giving details, memories and stories that brought it to life. Yet from Anders, Fenris and Isabella who grew up in the Circle, Tevinter and Rivain, we learn nearly nothing of the cities, their cultures and what defines them. We only know that Isabella has abanonment issues because of things that happened in Rivain, that Fenris hates mages because of Tevinter and that Anders hates Templars because of growing up in the Circle.


In short, DA2 used backgrounds and hot points to define their characters and their personalities... and this hardly ever changed. In addition, we never got to know anything about their background of where they came from outside of their personal tragic stories. And we never see their persona crack, showing us a side to them we don't usually see. We saw more of this kind of depth in DA:O and that's why I think many people like those characters more, but found the DA2 characters more one-note.

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Just realized my response was pretty much an echo of 'Machines Are Us.' Sorry about that.

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People actually have far more complex reasons for romance other than the set of genitalia they possess.

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It's better to just go with the "Everyone is hero-sexual", and give people options. The alternative is just over-simplification.


I'm relatively indifferent about this, but where is your approach not simplifying and doing justice to this complexity you speak of?

Modifié par Derengard, 31 octobre 2012 - 06:33 .


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I've stated this elsewhere but it seems relevant here: My first playthrough of DA2 I f*cked up the romance with Fenris because I was +F on how I handled slavers, and +R with how I handled mages...putting me somewhere at ~20% Rivalry by Act 3.

I'd much rather have been blocked from romancing him by (for example) choosing to take Oriana as a slave and openly acknowledging that fact in front of him, rather than via an arbitrary F/R percentage.

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Machines Are Us wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

All of the characters have very... strong personality traits. They don't seem to have any average, normal traits at all really.


I find this to be pretty common for NPC companions in RPGs.  Do you think it'd be possible to do a similar breakdown of DAO's NPCs?


Most of the DA:O companions you can talk about the relevant issues (The blight), you can talk about their personal issues (their personal quests), you can talk about your own circumstances (romances, opinions) and you can talk about their pasts and histories.

In DA2 you couldn't really properly inquire into the NPC's as the only time you could really talk to them were when they had a personal quest or the "Questioning Beliefs" which came up after it was done. In both of those cases, the conversation is always about their personal beliefs (Fenris and Daenarius, Merrill with the mirror, etc.)

I felt that this direction made them feel a lot more limited, and that's probably why they feel so over the top with their attitudes; they don't have anything to really compare it to. There aren't any "normal" conversations to be had with some of them.


+1

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Allan Schumacher wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

plnero wrote...

I don't mind men hitting on me; I can't help it if they're attracted to my good looks and colorful personality. I just don't want them to get pissed at me when I tell them I prefer the ladies.

That was another problem I had with DA2. You turn down someone you aren't interested in and you receive rivalry points. Why should I be punished for not pursuing a gay romance? The same could be said for people who do role play a gay character. They are punished for turning down a member of the opposite sex.


First rivalry is not a punishment. it is just a reaction. Second it required a particular type of playthrough to even achieve the rivalry response.


No, on the Talk To Anders quest I was  just being friendly then all of a sudden he started hitting on me and I say I am not into men BOOM 10 rivalry if it wasn't for the wiki I wouldn't have found out how to get approval in that quest...BY FLIRTING WITH HIM, so yeah you are punished for having a sexual preference <_<

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MrCousland99 wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

plnero wrote...

I don't mind men hitting on me; I can't help it if they're attracted to my good looks and colorful personality. I just don't want them to get pissed at me when I tell them I prefer the ladies.

That was another problem I had with DA2. You turn down someone you aren't interested in and you receive rivalry points. Why should I be punished for not pursuing a gay romance? The same could be said for people who do role play a gay character. They are punished for turning down a member of the opposite sex.


First rivalry is not a punishment. it is just a reaction. Second it required a particular type of playthrough to even achieve the rivalry response.


No, on the Talk To Anders quest I was  just being friendly then all of a sudden he started hitting on me and I say I am not into men BOOM 10 rivalry if it wasn't for the wiki I wouldn't have found out how to get approval in that quest...BY FLIRTING WITH HIM, so yeah you are punished for having a sexual preference <_<

I find it curious that Bioware doesn't know what's going on in their own games. Posted Image

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I highly recommend you (not just this poster but all of you who think that what happed in DA2 was odd) watch the first couple of episodes of The L Word :wizard:(NOTE: you may want to skip over the sex scenes though) 


The L Word is not in any way indicitave of real life.

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Allan Schumacher wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

plnero wrote...

I don't mind men hitting on me; I can't help it if they're attracted to my good looks and colorful personality. I just don't want them to get pissed at me when I tell them I prefer the ladies.

That was another problem I had with DA2. You turn down someone you aren't interested in and you receive rivalry points. Why should I be punished for not pursuing a gay romance? The same could be said for people who do role play a gay character. They are punished for turning down a member of the opposite sex.


First rivalry is not a punishment. it is just a reaction. Second it required a particular type of playthrough to even achieve the rivalry response.


I have found no way to avoid the Anders "STAY AWAY FROM ME FREAK" response.

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

MrCousland99 wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

plnero wrote...

I don't mind men hitting on me; I can't help it if they're attracted to my good looks and colorful personality. I just don't want them to get pissed at me when I tell them I prefer the ladies.

That was another problem I had with DA2. You turn down someone you aren't interested in and you receive rivalry points. Why should I be punished for not pursuing a gay romance? The same could be said for people who do role play a gay character. They are punished for turning down a member of the opposite sex.


First rivalry is not a punishment. it is just a reaction. Second it required a particular type of playthrough to even achieve the rivalry response.


No, on the Talk To Anders quest I was  just being friendly then all of a sudden he started hitting on me and I say I am not into men BOOM 10 rivalry if it wasn't for the wiki I wouldn't have found out how to get approval in that quest...BY FLIRTING WITH HIM, so yeah you are punished for having a sexual preference <_<

I find it curious that Bioware doesn't know what's going on in their own games. Posted Image


duh duh DUUUUUUUUH!!!!!!! :o

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EntropicAngel wrote...

Quicksilver26 wrote...

I highly recommend you (not just this poster but all of you who think that what happed in DA2 was odd) watch the first couple of episodes of The L Word :wizard:(NOTE: you may want to skip over the sex scenes though) 


The L Word is not in any way indicitave of real life.

What a shame.

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MrCousland99 wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

That was another problem I had with DA2. You turn down someone you aren't interested in and you receive rivalry points. Why should I be punished for not pursuing a gay romance? The same could be said for people who do role play a gay character. They are punished for turning down a member of the opposite sex.


First rivalry is not a punishment. it is just a reaction. Second it required a particular type of playthrough to even achieve the rivalry response.


No, on the Talk To Anders quest I was  just being friendly then all of a sudden he started hitting on me and I say I am not into men BOOM 10 rivalry if it wasn't for the wiki I wouldn't have found out how to get approval in that quest...BY FLIRTING WITH HIM, so yeah you are punished for having a sexual preference <_<


Umm, you wouldn't be mad if you got rejected like how Hawke rejects Anders? (because you are pretty mean about it every time you do reject him). And the women are punished too, with the +10 rivalry. But I'm not screaming about being forced to be hetero. 

People who get rejected by people they have crushes on get mad/ upset/ are not happy, you wanted to him to say "oh, that's cool?" 

And rivalry was never intended to be a "punishment" but a way to avoid either kissing up to all your characters or having them abandon you. 

And if you can't make up +10 rivalry throughout the whole game, then wow.....you must either be pro Templar, or play pro-mage and leave him in the clinic all the time, and the flirty stuff later only shows up when you don't stop him the first few times. 

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I like the decision on hero-sexuality. Bioware got something right. Meta-gaming does not win out over fairness is what they said. I agree.

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MrCousland99 wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

plnero wrote...

I don't mind men hitting on me; I can't help it if they're attracted to my good looks and colorful personality. I just don't want them to get pissed at me when I tell them I prefer the ladies.

That was another problem I had with DA2. You turn down someone you aren't interested in and you receive rivalry points. Why should I be punished for not pursuing a gay romance? The same could be said for people who do role play a gay character. They are punished for turning down a member of the opposite sex.


First rivalry is not a punishment. it is just a reaction. Second it required a particular type of playthrough to even achieve the rivalry response.


No, on the Talk To Anders quest I was  just being friendly then all of a sudden he started hitting on me and I say I am not into men BOOM 10 rivalry if it wasn't for the wiki I wouldn't have found out how to get approval in that quest...BY FLIRTING WITH HIM, so yeah you are punished for having a sexual preference <_<


Ah who cares? It's just a video game.

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Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

MrCousland99 wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

plnero wrote...

I don't mind men hitting on me; I can't help it if they're attracted to my good looks and colorful personality. I just don't want them to get pissed at me when I tell them I prefer the ladies.

That was another problem I had with DA2. You turn down someone you aren't interested in and you receive rivalry points. Why should I be punished for not pursuing a gay romance? The same could be said for people who do role play a gay character. They are punished for turning down a member of the opposite sex.


First rivalry is not a punishment. it is just a reaction. Second it required a particular type of playthrough to even achieve the rivalry response.


No, on the Talk To Anders quest I was  just being friendly then all of a sudden he started hitting on me and I say I am not into men BOOM 10 rivalry if it wasn't for the wiki I wouldn't have found out how to get approval in that quest...BY FLIRTING WITH HIM, so yeah you are punished for having a sexual preference <_<


Ah who cares? It's just a video game.

Well, clearly we do. Otherwsie we wouldn't be on this forum.

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Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

MrCousland99 wrote...

No, on the Talk To Anders quest I was  just being friendly then all of a sudden he started hitting on me and I say I am not into men BOOM 10 rivalry if it wasn't for the wiki I wouldn't have found out how to get approval in that quest...BY FLIRTING WITH HIM, so yeah you are punished for having a sexual preference <_<


Ah who cares? It's just a video game.


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Some people really don't like the gayz in video games. <_<

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Palipride47 wrote...

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

MrCousland99 wrote...

No, on the Talk To Anders quest I was  just being friendly then all of a sudden he started hitting on me and I say I am not into men BOOM 10 rivalry if it wasn't for the wiki I wouldn't have found out how to get approval in that quest...BY FLIRTING WITH HIM, so yeah you are punished for having a sexual preference <_<


Ah who cares? It's just a video game.


http://www.escapistm...-Homophobic-Fan

Some people really don't like the gayz in video games. <_<

What does that have to do with anything? People who choose not to pursue a gay relationship are not automatically homophobic. The person quoted in that article clearly is. Nothing like that is being discussed here. 

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Palipride47 wrote...

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

MrCousland99 wrote...

No, on the Talk To Anders quest I was  just being friendly then all of a sudden he started hitting on me and I say I am not into men BOOM 10 rivalry if it wasn't for the wiki I wouldn't have found out how to get approval in that quest...BY FLIRTING WITH HIM, so yeah you are punished for having a sexual preference <_<


Ah who cares? It's just a video game.


http://www.escapistm...-Homophobic-Fan

Some people really don't like the gayz in video games. <_<


What does that have to do with anything? People who choose not to pursue a gay relationship are not automatically homophobic. The person quoted in that article clearly is. Nothing like that is being discussed here. 


The out-of-proportion RAGE about a perception of being "forced" to be homosexual or "punished" for being hetero, where no "force" or "punishment" exists (where I bolded) is what I responded to. 

Honestly, as often as this topic comes up, and as often as someone dives in here getting mad about Anders being attracted to a man, I honestly feel like a lot more people on here express the view of the poster in the article and cloak it under the guise of "that's not how bisexuals work." as if they know how human sexuality works. 

EDIT: just *sigh* nevermind.....I'll drop this since I want to keep this open to hacve a nice debate. I was responding to the guy who pretty much barged in with his beef about Anders. 

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

MrCousland99 wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

plnero wrote...

I don't mind men hitting on me; I can't help it if they're attracted to my good looks and colorful personality. I just don't want them to get pissed at me when I tell them I prefer the ladies.

That was another problem I had with DA2. You turn down someone you aren't interested in and you receive rivalry points. Why should I be punished for not pursuing a gay romance? The same could be said for people who do role play a gay character. They are punished for turning down a member of the opposite sex.


First rivalry is not a punishment. it is just a reaction. Second it required a particular type of playthrough to even achieve the rivalry response.


No, on the Talk To Anders quest I was  just being friendly then all of a sudden he started hitting on me and I say I am not into men BOOM 10 rivalry if it wasn't for the wiki I wouldn't have found out how to get approval in that quest...BY FLIRTING WITH HIM, so yeah you are punished for having a sexual preference <_<


Ah who cares? It's just a video game.

Well, clearly we do. Otherwsie we wouldn't be on this forum.


Heh, but my point is... who cares if a character hits on you in a video game? It's just a game. It's not reality. People get so heated. It's reality-check time. It's just a freaking game. 

Edit: In Dragon's Dogma I did a quest to save the Dutchess. The result? When I saved her, my female Arisen was featured in a cut scene, having sex with the Dutchess. Heh. I mean - OH NO. Stop the press. I must be a lesbian now, because clearly that tiny little pixel-projection of myself ended up doing some stuff I've never done. It's all so petty. People need to get over it. It's just a GAME. 

Modifié par Trista Faux Hawke, 01 novembre 2012 - 03:13 .