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 This is under the assumption in the next installment you'll be able to play as the Hero of Fereldan, and at max maybe a few years after the events of DA1 take place:


Wynne - Too old, even admitted she's one borrowed time and shouldn't be alive right now.  She will have passed away

Shale - I think we'll see her return as a crazy dwarven chick.  She'll be successful in her quest to regain her mortality

Dog - Dogs age too quickly, unfortunately.  Will not see him return

Allister/Loghain - I don't believe either will be party companions, but will play a role as an NPC depending on the decisions from the first game, since both are in a position of power.

Morrigan - Look above, she won't be playable but still a very significant element to the plot.  Maybe even as an enemy

Sten - In all of his endings he indicates that he will return to his homeland, I don't think we'll see him as a companion again.

Oghren & Zevran - I don't believe there any any endings which indicate they are gone for good.  Both may return???  


Leilana - I don't know, I wouldn't be surprised if she made a return as I suspect the next game will take place in Orlais but in one of the endings it's implied she committed suicide

Modifié par fanman72, 01 janvier 2010 - 10:29 .


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Yes table:

Shale - as flesh and blood crazy dwarf chick. It would be awesome.

Morrigan - but not as a companion, but still a character in the story.

Leliana - Out of all the characters, I am positive she is one to return, heck, I want to make her a Grey Warden, I am that sure of her remaining.

Zevran - he'll get bored and want more treasure



Maybe table:

Oghren - something could happen with his lady friend, and he will be back, as drunk and sully as ever.



No table:

Wynne - will have probably passed on from this life.

Dog - I'm afraid he would not still be alive as well.

Alistair - He will either be King, Dead, or a wandering drunk. You can get him to live with none of those things. I think it would be cool, if we are able to load our saved games, to not have him if he fulfills the first three criteria, but do have him if he does not. But being the senior most Warden, he will be running the Wardens of Ferelden. And I don't think the story will take place in Ferelden.

Loghain - no, he is either Dead from the Warden, or Dead from the taint (i.e. he fought bravely in the Deep Roads).

Sten - he is back in his homeland probably participating in some invasion.

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Well Zevran might be a maybe, but I think he would return.

Edited to say, technically none of them could be back based upon your decisions from Origins. But I am presuming the player didn't kill any of the companions.

Modifié par fantasypisces, 01 janvier 2010 - 10:34 .


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Dog will most likely return... technically. I'd wager that the PC in DA2 also gets a dog as a companion.

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I wouldn't say I expect anything until we know where the second game is set and in what timeline. If it's in Orlais and right after the first game, then I wouldn't be surprised to meet pretty much all of the old characters. If it's in Orlais, and decades/centuries later, then I would still expect to see Morrigan and her child. She knows how to extend her life.  The Tevinter Imperium, Nevarra, Antiva etc. you might see one or two.

There's a possibility you don't play the same characters as in DA:O (I hope), which means these characters wouldn't even know you. You're not playing Commander Sheperd here after all, you're roleplaying some Grey Warden. Not a canon character.

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fantasypisces wrote...

Well Zevran might be a maybe, but I think he would return.

Edited to say, technically none of them could be back based upon your decisions from Origins. But I am presuming the player didn't kill any of the companions.


I'm operating under this assumption as well, that the main characters decided to side with party members at critical moments in the game which would determine whether they stay or leave.  I mean why else would Bioware put so much effort into writing these characters, just so, for example we could kill Wynne the first time we met her?

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Ulrik the Slayer wrote...

Dog will most likely return... technically. I'd wager that the PC in DA2 also gets a dog as a companion.


I don't think it will be THE dog from DA1, but there probably will be some sort of pet....maybe a different animal like a tiger or some bull****.  OR MAYBE A GRIFFON??????

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j_j_m wrote...

There's a possibility you don't play the same characters as in DA:O (I hope), which means these characters wouldn't even know you. You're not playing Commander Sheperd here after all, you're roleplaying some Grey Warden. Not a canon character.


I really hope that's not the case.  In the BG series we continued our character from one game to another so it's always a possibility

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Well its already been hinted we havent seen the least of Morrigan but whether they're saving that for some massive expansion pack or the sequel remians to be seen. As for the player character, being a Grey Warden means that the player only has about 30 years after the 1st game to live before he/she must accept the Calling so any time after, i think it would be safe to say that we wont be playing the same character.

I really think recurring companions is gonna be centered around choices made in the first game, since that seems all the rage lately.

I could definitely see Leliana, Zevran, or Oghren returning as companions in the sequel. As for the others, I dont know, honestly.

Modifié par Scotsman284, 01 janvier 2010 - 10:50 .


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I would expect Morrigan to return in some way, because if they aren't planning on making DLC/expansion/DA2 with Morrigan in it, why would they have chosen this ending for DAO..?

The other characters could return as well, but with Zevran, Alistair and Wynne it's a bit tricky because they might as well be dead.



Of course it's possible that the story doesn't allow any of the characters from DAO to return, as said before.

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I could very well see Sten coming back. The next time around doesn't need to be a Blight, it could be the Qunari invasion he mentioned after you give him back his phallic symbol of Qunariness.



I think it would be pretty damn cool if you could convince him to swap side and join back up.



Still hoping for everyone to come back because the next installment will take over within a year of the end.

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fanman72 wrote...


I really hope that's not the case.  In the BG series we continued our character from one game to another so it's always a possibility

That's because you're, ta-da... a child of Bhaal.

You're a normal person in DA:O. You become a Grey Warden and fight against the fifth Blight. You're not the first heroic Grey Warden nor the last. I really like it this way. Gives more of a roleplaying feel. You're not the chosen one like in most RPGs.

Modifié par j_j_m, 01 janvier 2010 - 10:54 .


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I think party companions should return only if they have matured/changed since their time in DA 1.

One thing that I consider important in sequels when it comes to returning characters:

-They need to change, as everyone does with time, but they should change in a plausible way. Nothing like reading a novel that is a sequel, and feel like "ummm character X would never have done such a thing"

If DA's sequel explores the Qunari lands, then I am sure that Sten will be there as a non-joinable NPC. Maybe he will be greeted with admiration upon his return to his people. He might be given an important position, and from there he might give quests to the hero or just give the hero some essential info.

Sten is a cool character, he was among my first picks for party members and was in my group pretty much from start to finish.  But:

-we already know a lot, pretty much everything there is to know about him. -there are no special plot tie-ins from DA 1 to DA 2 for Sten, unlike with Morrigan.

So it's better if he makes an appearance as an NPC rather than a full-time companion.

But...I really like Sten. So if the writers have more cool ideas for him as a full-time companion then I'll add him to my party regardless :lol:

Morrigan should return, I feel like there still is a lot of mystery concerning her, especially concerning the dragonchild and Flemeth. Morrigan was young in DA 1, perhaps she can return in the sequel, and if the sequel takes places some years after, time and caring for a child might make her a more mature, changed individual.

I can see many of the DA 1 companions becoming mentors/big shots being looked up on after their achievements.

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In KotOR 2 (haven't played) you didn't resume playing the same character, did you? Is this something that is only unique to Mass Effect? I think it would be awesome to continue our character's story if they ever do make a DA:O 2, but it took them, what, five years to develop this game, in part because certain technology was required?



I'd love for everyone to come back, but we know that didn;t happen for ME, so it doesn't look likely.



However, I would love to see Zev, Shale, Oghren and Alistair and Morrigan again.. They were my favorites by far!

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Bomfy wrote...

I could very well see Sten coming back. The next time around doesn't need to be a Blight, it could be the Qunari invasion he mentioned after you give him back his phallic symbol of Qunariness.

I think it would be pretty damn cool if you could convince him to swap side and join back up.


I have a feeling that Sten would never turn his back on his people. It will probably end up as an honorable battle, with each side vying to do their duty. Sten kind of hints at this during the epilogue.

That would be a fine RP moment, the PC getting the choice to execute his friend Sten, and his friend not bearing any grudge to the PC for doing his duty.

Modifié par hereticeyes, 01 janvier 2010 - 10:58 .


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It'll be interesting to see how they go about doing a sequel, if they do. I am really hoping they do by all means!!



Morrigan - There's just too many unanswered questions, she can't be left out of the sequel.



Wynne - I think she will have passed on. But maybe something to do with her spirit could be involved in the sequel.



Zevran and Leilana - Absolutely! I would love to see the story moved to Orlais and/or Antiva.



Dog - Not sure. I didn't use him as much as some of the others. Depends on who the PC is.



Sten - I think it would be cool to see him return but I think he just needs to be in his homeland doing his own thing.



Shale - Would be great to see Shale return as her original dwarf self.



Oghren - He said he was going to stay up on the surface, so would be a good one to include.



Allistair and Loghain - Now this one I'm not so sure. It really depends on how you played the game. I have played multiple times all with different endings. I love Allistair and I hate him. I would have to put Loghain on the same terms as Allistair. It really depends on how you played the game and how you ended it. I have to be honest, I ended mostly with killing Loghain in the end.



I would love to continue where I left off. I never played any of the BG series, but since playing DAO I'm interested in taking a look at it. If that is indeed how BG worked, then maybe they'll do the same for DAO. Does BG have the same play style as DAO?

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I view it like this.

Pretty much 99.99% chance of returning:
Morrigan (Only unkillable party member. She very heavily affects the ending. Her returning as a party member is like 5% chance though.)

Very high chance of returning:
Dog (No need to record new voice dialogue very easy to add conversations. Pretty much always with you anyway.)
Zevran (He will always stay with you as long as you didn't kill him or tell him to go away.)

Medium chance:
Sten (You can say you will collect on the debt he says he owes you. You can also choose to go with him to his homeland. Sounds like a good expansion pack idea to me.)
Oghren (Probably not though since he has kids with that lady you help him get together with.)
Leliana (I have only had 1 ending ever where she stayed with me. All the others she goes off doing other things.)
Shale in dwarf form or remaining as a golem.


No chance in hell:
Loghain (Lots of people killed him and if you don't kill him he only survives for a couple years until he goes to the deep roads.)

Alistair (Could have left as a drunkard, been executed, busy being king, disappears in the Anderfels, sacrificed himself to slay the arch demon, or busy running the grey wardens of Fereldan. It really seems like the devs don't want him returning.)

Wynne (Has like less than a year to live and she pretty much decides to go traveling.)

Modifié par Nobody Important, 01 janvier 2010 - 11:10 .


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hereticeyes wrote...

I have a feeling that Sten would never turn his back on his people. It will probably end up as an honorable battle, with each side vying to do their duty. Sten kind of hints at this during the epilogue.

That would be a fine RP moment, the PC getting the choice to execute his friend Sten, and his friend not bearing any grudge to the PC for doing his duty.


Very true, I was thinking more along the lines of Sten being so enlightened by the previous events that the whole super mega cheeseball differeing nations become buddies thing.

The only way I'd be happy esxecuting Sten is if I could tell him I'll put a cookie on his grave.

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More then likely the dog I would think does  not mean I'm saying your dog will be they are used in battle anyways. 

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j_j_m wrote...

fanman72 wrote...


I really hope that's not the case.  In the BG series we continued our character from one game to another so it's always a possibility

That's because you're, ta-da... a child of Bhaal.

You're a normal person in DA:O. You become a Grey Warden and fight against the fifth Blight. You're not the first heroic Grey Warden nor the last. I really like it this way. Gives more of a roleplaying feel. You're not the chosen one like in most RPGs.


Your right, your one in five from the past 600ish years. Not much at all, really:huh:
I think it would be dumb to make us create brand new characters and have the story of our first one be over. I would be mad at that, and not buy DA2 until I read a lot of reviews (as opposed to pre-ordering, for example).

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I would like to see most of the team back together whether it's in an NPC or PC capacity.



Wynne would most likely be gone due to her being past her time but she does have a son. It would be nice to find out he's a mage and has her same talents for healing.



Shale would be nice to have back but depending on what ending you got Shale might not be a golem anymore.



Zevran depending on if he stayed or left could determine whether he would come back. If he's leading the Crows it would be really interesting to see how he can aid you.



Leilana would be part of the court most likely and go where you go considering how close you are whether you romanced her or not.



Sten I could see being NPC rather than PC. He does respect your warden by the end of DA:O but that doesn't mean he'll disobey his own command to help you. He already got his atonement but you do have a favor to call in so there is a loophole there.



Oghren would probably be an easy one to get back. Beer anyone?



Alistair would be interesting. Considering he could be king, a drunk or just one of the wardens depending on the choices made. If he's king I'd say he'd be NPC, if he's a drunk I think you should be able to find him and remind him what his duty is. This would be his chance for atonement.

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tallon1982 wrote...

I would like to see most of the team back together whether it's in an NPC or PC capacity.

Wynne would most likely be gone due to her being past her time but she does have a son. It would be nice to find out he's a mage and has her same talents for healing.


Sorry I laughed really hard, how many 70 year old women do you know that give birth to children?

Modifié par fantasypisces, 01 janvier 2010 - 11:18 .


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fantasypisces wrote...

tallon1982 wrote...

I would like to see most of the team back together whether it's in an NPC or PC capacity.

Wynne would most likely be gone due to her being past her time but she does have a son. It would be nice to find out he's a mage and has her same talents for healing.


Sorry I laughed really hard, how many 70 year old women do you know that have children?



Uh.. grandmothers?


And Wynne didn't say how old he would be.

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Sorry, edited it above, meant to say "how many 70 year old women do you know that 'give birth' to children"



Sorry for the confusion.

Does she say somewhere in game she has a kid? I'm almost through five playthroughs and she has never once made mention of having a child.

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Also, why can't a king adventure? Belgarion did it. [/tongue-in-cheek]