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[Sialater]

tallon1982 wrote...

I still can't believe that part though it's still funny. Such a Star Wars moment lol.

Or Arthurian.  Like with Morgan le Fey and Mordred.

[RyanTUK]

Sialater wrote...

RyanTUK wrote...

The only characters who should return are the PC and Morrigan... Im hoping the sequel will be along the lines of the PC tracking down Morrigan through the mountains and into Orlais where they are reunited after Flemeth catches up with Morrigan (perhaps the PC senses her to be in distress and calling for him/her to aid her through the ring) to take revenge but instead takes the god child for herself to do her evil bidding resulting in the PC and Morrigan joining forces to stop the horror they created from entering and destroying Ferelden with its army of something bad maybe a return of the darkspawn under Flemeth occupied god child.
Along with plenty of other goodies such as a Qunari invasion of Ferelden which must be resolved before Alistair/Anora can send troops to aid in this task. Where we meet Sten once more but this time on the battlefield.

Of course this wont happen because I am a mere fan who could only dream to be involved in such a project and Bioware has plenty of top notch writers, who I trust not to disappoint But yeah aslong as it has plenty of Morrigan dialogue and the option to further develop a relationship between the 2 characters I shouldnt be disappointed as I thought it was one of if not the best  part of DA:O

Exactly how would that work if Alistair was the father?

I said along the lines of. Obviously there are flaws for something which was just off the top of my head, there are far too many ways the series could go. (if it becomes a series that is)  I've never made Alistair the father of the child so im not sure how the situation developed but there would be ways to work around it... Either by having Alistair accompany you or by having him request his closest friend the PC to track down morrigan to make sure the child is not used for evil purposes (which would make sense as he never fully trusted her.)

[fantasypisces]

Sialater wrote...

tallon1982 wrote...

I still can't believe that part though it's still funny. Such a Star Wars moment lol.

Or Arthurian.  Like with Morgan le Fey and Mordred.

Pretty much exactly like that, in fact. Star Wars was a reference I didn't think of though.

[tallon1982]

Very true. I think in all mythical stories (well not all but you get the idea) they have a similar story of incest intentional or not.

[Ponce de Leon]

Interesting, let's see the list according to joinings :

Alistair : no way he's gonna return. Too hard to see him out of Ferelden (and I certainly hope we will be in Orlais). Maybe just background appearance.

Morrigan : As Flemeth was in DA:O, she will be so in DA2... for some reason, I think the child is made for the same reason as Flemeth had children... And besides, I'd enjoy her head chopped once and for all...

Dog : nope... if the PC isn't the warden, then no way.

Leliana : who knows, if it's Orlais, possible. I'd personally like to see her again, but again, am not sure.

Sten : don't think so, no. Again, I'd like to see him.

Wynne : she will die eventually... sorry old lady, but you know yourself. We passed good times though

Shale : possible, as a dwarf female. Would be nice at least.

Oghren and Zevran : They must both be present. The great and famous Broma Brothers must be BACK!

[fanman72]

tallon1982 wrote...

Very true. I think in all mythical stories (well not all but you get the idea) they have a similar story of incest intentional or not.

Maybe Freud was onto something.  You know there have been cases in real life (most couples won't disclose who they are for obvious reasons) where a person and their opposite sex sibling (or even parent, in a few cases) who grew up seperately are very strongly attracted to each other sexually later in life.  It's called Genetic Sexual Attraction (GSA)

http://en.wikipedia....xual_attraction

[fantasypisces]

fanman72 wrote...

tallon1982 wrote...

Very true. I think in all mythical stories (well not all but you get the idea) they have a similar story of incest intentional or not.

Maybe Freud was onto something.  You know there have been cases in real life (most couples won't disclose who they are for obvious reasons) where a person and their opposite sex sibling (or even parent, in a few cases) who grew up seperately are very strongly attracted to each other sexually later in life.  It's called Genetic Sexual Attraction (GSA)

http://en.wikipedia....xual_attraction

Yup did a lot of reading about that in one of my Psych classes. Very interesting stuff (when you get past the *ick* factor) obviously.... and in terms fo the game, they did bicker like siblings, just saying.

[frostajulie]

Your romantic choice just has to return to be by your side again. ESPECIALLY if it was Zev!

[Freckles04]

I'm going to be in the minority who says that Alistair will be back as a party member. The precedent of the King adventuring with the Wardens was set in The Calling (the second DA novel). And there are a lot of questions about Alistair raised in that book that aren't addressed in the game. Really, the main characters from the game are Alistair and the Warden, so I can't see a near-future sequel not featuring both of them.



I also highly doubt it will be set centuries from the current game, because of information revealed in The Calling. I speculate that the Dragon Age will be the age with multiple Blights, where the darkspawn are finally defeated once and for all.



My wishlist for returning characters would be...



Alistair: a fantastic character I would love to see again, especially since he changed so much over the course of the game (regardless of the ending you chose)



The Warden (PC): I'm kind of attached to my Warden. I want her to come back.



Oghren: By far the most entertaining party member in camp. I can't help laughing everytime he tries to tell me that joke about the human...and his speech at the end is very touching. I think if the Warden needed him, he'd be there, no questions asked.



Zevran: I didn't originally like him, but he grew on me over a couple of playthroughs. Like Oghren, I think he will be there without question if the Warden needs him.



Leliana: Maybe. Depending on the ending you chose, she was picked to head up an investigation into the darkspawn in the Deep Roads. It would be cool if one of the starting quests was to hunt her down and rescue her...



Characters I don't think will be returning, not as party members anyway...



Morrigan: She'll definitely be in a sequel, but I think the focus will be on the god-baby.



Wynne: As everyone else has mentioned, she's not long for this world.



Shale: I don't particularly care for her, so I'm hoping she won't be back.



Sten: I think the next time Ferelden sees Sten, it will be at the head of the Qunari army, so I doubt he'll be back for some time.



Loghain: He's dead. Even if you didn't execute him and he survived the archdemon, I think someone *cough*Warden*cough* would have hired someone *cough*Zevran*cough* to take him out.

[Gold Dragon]

It would be difficult to have Zevran come back, since half my characters killed him, one even outright.

[ElofValant]

To those who are saying the PC will be back - personally, I'm having a bit of trouble with this option as the PC does have the choice to sacrifice themselves. Which mean no return for the PC from DA:o possible in the sequel. Obviously if they didn't sacrifice themselves, it would be an option/possibility... but I'm inclined that even if we have party member's from DA:O return in sequel's.. I suspect we'll be playing as a completely new PC. (else they have to re-work the lore so that final death != final death .. cause as it stands, it's made clear in-game that once dead and your spirit is gone from vessel/body.. there is no returning or resurrection possible).



shale - was a DLC, and might or might not be back as you might not have activated her. might be stuck with the pidgeions pooping all over her.



Zevran - iffy, PC's can kill him (multiple chances I believe?). so might not even be alive after DA:O



Leliana - might or might not be alive. If romanced and PC died, and if she wasn't "hardened" .. then it's implied she kills herself.



Loghain - generally dead no matter what. either killed at landsmeet, or by the archdemon. And as most people will kill him, chances of him being alive after DA:o.. slim



Morrigan -she'll be back in some form I'd say. either as a "companion" or bad guy. (might be funny if in DA:O2 you play as the child.. then you get to drag dear ole mother along with you...) The whole God-Baby is a dead end though if PC or Allistair didn't sleep with her though? Or does she get godbaby anyways?



Sten - doubt he'll be back. Maybe if the Qunari invade... but he'll likely be an enemy then anyways. Maybe have the chance to turn him.. but doubtful.



Allistair - either king, dead or a drunk. Maybe if he goes to the drunk side.. he'll retun and you get to deal with his whining and whinging all over again (or kill him right there and then... like I wish ou could do in DA:O.. hahaha)



just some random thoughts about some companions.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

There are too many factors with most of the characters to really hedge any bets, because there are so many possible choices of who lives, who dies, to really determine antying remotely stable for a next game.



Morrigan and her god baby are not a given, since it seems just as many people didn't do the ritual. But Morrigan, somehow, seems like a given. She can't die no matter what choices you make. She will be back in some form. In the Epilogue, if you rejected the ritual, it shows rumors of someone resembling Morrigan squeezing her way into the orlesian imperial court. This I found incredibly shocking, as I was expecting her to leave in a huff and vanish into the wilds, still pissed off that i didn't give her what she wanted. Just what is she doing trying to wiggle her way into the court of a major political power of a major country in Thedas, especially one with a less than happy history with her homeland?



People focus on god-baby, but they ignore this other ending for Morrigan. She's up to something, that's for certain. And I find that ending to be a far bigger mystery.



The other companions, who knows. Zevran and leliana are free-spirits, they can show up anywhere, provided you haven't killed them. Oghren, might show up, but it's unlikely if you succeeded in hooking him up with Felsi. Shale, maybe. Alistair, there are so many possible fates for him that I wouldn't write him off, he can end up anywhere. Wynne will croak, and Loghain, no matter what you do, is toast. Sten is back off to Qunari land.



Dog is mighty and immortal. he will return, and you will tremble before his awesomeness.



Also, don't forget the NPCs, especially origin ones! Cullen leaves the biggest opening for a future, if you save the Circle, and he flips out, does a jail break, and goes around cackling and killing mages. Would make for an interesting random encounter with the mage slaying mad man from hell.

[Gold Dragon]

I thought I heard of an Alistair ending where the PC and Alistair travel around...

[tallon1982]

There is one with the two of you traveling around. You basically put Anora on the throne, have Alistair renounce his claim to the throne and take the dark ritual. I don't think you can do this if he is hardened though. I could be wrong of course.

[Blood-Pool]

I personally hope that Alistair, Oghren, and Zevran return.



Oh btw, Loghain ain't comin' back. I'm pretty sure he stays in this game only.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

You can either travel around or the two of you rebuild the wardens. I'm one of the few who actually prefer NOT to make him king, leaving the whole biz of ruling to Anora, so he can be free to do what he likes. Unhardened, though.



So yes, Alistair's future is as open as the two rogues, really. Most people seem to forget that, as most people seem to elect to make him king.

[Blood-Pool]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...


Dog is mighty and immortal. he will return, and you will tremble before his awesomeness.

The Dog is actually the Maker Himself. He is all-powerful. WORSHIP HIM!!!

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Blood-Pool wrote...

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...


Dog is mighty and immortal. he will return, and you will tremble before his awesomeness.

The Dog is actually the Maker Himself. He is all-powerful. WORSHIP HIM!!!

I do. Believe me, I do. I lay at his divine paws offerings of cake, yarn, and old lamb bones in the hope he will see my heart and find me worthy to serve as his high priestess and commander of his legion of doom.

Andraste and her sparkly ashes can get stuffed.

[Sialater]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

Blood-Pool wrote...

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...


Dog is mighty and immortal. he will return, and you will tremble before his awesomeness.

The Dog is actually the Maker Himself. He is all-powerful. WORSHIP HIM!!!

I do. Believe me, I do. I lay at his divine paws offerings of cake, yarn, and old lamb bones in the hope he will see my heart and find me worthy to serve as his high priestess and commander of his legion of doom.

Andraste and her sparkly ashes can get stuffed.

The Chant of Light needs to be renamed The Chant of Dog.

I really need to write up that bloody nightmare I had.

Modifié par Sialater, 02 janvier 2010 - 05:45 .

[EJon]

RyanTUK wrote...

The only characters who should return are the PC and Morrigan... Im hoping the sequel will be along the lines of the PC tracking down Morrigan through the mountains and into Orlais where they are reunited after Flemeth catches up with Morrigan (perhaps the PC senses her to be in distress and calling for him/her to aid her through the ring) to take revenge but instead takes the god child for herself to do her evil bidding resulting in the PC and Morrigan joining forces to stop the horror they created from entering and destroying Ferelden with its army of something bad maybe a return of the darkspawn under Flemeth occupied god child.
Along with plenty of other goodies such as a Qunari invasion of Ferelden which must be resolved before Alistair/Anora can send troops to aid in this task. Where we meet Sten once more but this time on the battlefield.

Of course this wont happen because I am a mere fan who could only dream to be involved in such a project and Bioware has plenty of top notch writers, who I trust not to disappoint But yeah aslong as it has plenty of Morrigan dialogue and the option to further develop a relationship between the 2 characters I shouldnt be disappointed as I thought it was one of if not the best  part of DA:O

I just don't understand.... Why do so many people think her role is so critical to the story? Its not. David Gaider even said that.. They will not make a sequel based on Morrigan. Just let it go. She may be in there, since Bioware said we haven't seen the last of her, but her role is not going to be as central as you make it out to be. What happens to those who didn't romance her? I guess no sequel for them huh?

[Prowler]

fanman72 wrote...

 This is under the assumption in the next installment you'll be able to play as the Hero of Fereldan, and at max maybe a few years after the events of DA1 take place:


Wynne - Too old, even admitted she's one borrowed time and shouldn't be alive right now.  She will have passed away

Shale - I think we'll see her return as a crazy dwarven chick.  She'll be successful in her quest to regain her mortality

Dog - Dogs age too quickly, unfortunately.  Will not see him return

Allister/Loghain - I don't believe either will be party companions, but will play a role as an NPC depending on the decisions from the first game, since both are in a position of power.

Morrigan - Look above, she won't be playable but still a very significant element to the plot.  Maybe even as an enemy

Sten - In all of his endings he indicates that he will return to his homeland, I don't think we'll see him as a companion again.

Oghren & Zevran - I don't believe there any any endings which indicate they are gone for good.  Both may return???  


Leilana - I don't know, I wouldn't be surprised if she made a return as I suspect the next game will take place in Orlais but in one of the endings it's implied she committed suicide

For the most part I agree with this with a few difference.

I see the the next installment taking place away from Fereldan (Orlais being the popular choice) and Alistair/Loghain/Anora being so busy with domestic issues that they can't assist the Grey Warden with a new threat.

Dog - Seeing as how there is no voice actor to retain, I don't see why we won't see Dog again; he's essentially a free character.

Morrigan - I agree she will be an intergral part of the plot but not as a companion and definitely as an enemy.

Sten - I think Sten will also return as an enemy leading the Qunari invasion.  If Morrigan is the main antagonist, I see Sten and the Qunari being the misdirection Morrigan uses to keep the Grey Warden busy.

Leilana - I wouldn't be surprised if one of the original companions is killed off and if it were Leliana it would have a greater impact than some of the other characters considering she was a romance option for both genders.

Zevran - Similar to Lelilana, one of them gets killed off, maybe both; one by Morrigan, one by Sten.

[lazydivey]

Sandal will return and it will be revealed that he is The Maker.



Enchantment!

[fanman72]

EJon wrote...

RyanTUK wrote...

The only characters who should return are the PC and Morrigan... Im hoping the sequel will be along the lines of the PC tracking down Morrigan through the mountains and into Orlais where they are reunited after Flemeth catches up with Morrigan (perhaps the PC senses her to be in distress and calling for him/her to aid her through the ring) to take revenge but instead takes the god child for herself to do her evil bidding resulting in the PC and Morrigan joining forces to stop the horror they created from entering and destroying Ferelden with its army of something bad maybe a return of the darkspawn under Flemeth occupied god child.
Along with plenty of other goodies such as a Qunari invasion of Ferelden which must be resolved before Alistair/Anora can send troops to aid in this task. Where we meet Sten once more but this time on the battlefield.

Of course this wont happen because I am a mere fan who could only dream to be involved in such a project and Bioware has plenty of top notch writers, who I trust not to disappoint But yeah aslong as it has plenty of Morrigan dialogue and the option to further develop a relationship between the 2 characters I shouldnt be disappointed as I thought it was one of if not the best  part of DA:O

I just don't understand.... Why do so many people think her role is so critical to the story? Its not. David Gaider even said that.. They will not make a sequel based on Morrigan. Just let it go. She may be in there, since Bioware said we haven't seen the last of her, but her role is not going to be as central as you make it out to be. What happens to those who didn't romance her? I guess no sequel for them huh?

Gaider said this?  Where?

[SinYang]

Wynne is already dead, a spirit from the fade is keeping her alive.. how long will that last? who knows she could be alive for a hundred more years though granted it wouldnt be very pretty.

[Thiefy]

i find it amusing that it seems mostly guys are the ones saying "morri HAS to be in the next one, she is so important because of the ritual WE did, oh and Ali - bah he's dead/king so not important".



You guys do realize that ALL (except dog) of the party members have open ended finishing slides, right? While there are slides that give a definate "this person has died, chose to do this until they died, or vanished and was never heard from again", they also have slides that mention them either wandering, questing, or in the case of the wardens who did morri's ritual, it's mentioned that their tale hasn't ended with the last blight and we won't see the last of him/her yet.