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Why do people say the Collector SMG sucks?


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DarkAbsolution

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I don't understand this sentiment.  Admittedly, I have mine at X now, and at level 1 it was a bit so-so, but to me it's superior to the Hurricane.

SMG Rail Amp III, AP Ammo IV, Extended Barrel, Heat Sink, and you're ready to rock'n'roll on Gold or Platinum.  Was using it on my Turian Sentinel on Gold.  One Warp (level 5 debuff only) and I was able to take down a ravager before the clip ran out.  Wait <2 secs and you're back to full ammo and ready to go again.  See a spawn of mooks?  Blat away in 20-30 round burst, pause 0.5 secs, rinse and repeat until spawn is dead.  Brutes, now with their added armor, go down in 2 warp/clip cycles.  Atlases?  No drama.

Yes, admittedly using top-shelf consumables, but I've used that stuff on a Hurricane too with less success due to its horrible accuracy past about 15 meters even when hip firing.  CSMG, you can nail a stream of headshots up to about 30m away, and can easily body shot mooks up to 50m away.  Even further for boss mobs.

I don't understand the hate.  Why do people think this weapon is a joke?

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Methew

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Because it's not a reskinned Hurricane.

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Guash

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I also love my CSMG and its only at II

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I Hate it, mine is at lvl 1.

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PoetryAvenger

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I don't have it, but from what I understand it's a combination of low magazine size and it's multiplier against armor being applied after armor's DR.

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Daveros

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I get better results with the Locust than the CSMG and, even though my CSMG is admittedly only at Level I, I think that's quite telling.

It's not a bad gun, but it probably should be a touch better to justify its UR status.

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I don't use SMGs ever.

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Sulaco_7

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...because it sucks when it's not at X? Yeah?

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Crimson Vanguard

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Its a good weapon, but doesnt deserve to be UR

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Feneckus

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I have a Collector SMG X and I love it. Easily the best SMG in my opinion. The Hurricane is overrated, terrible accuracy.

DarkAbsolution wrote...

SMG Rail Amp III, AP Ammo IV, Extended Barrel, Heat Sink,


I hope you meant extended mag instead of Heat sink cos it doesn't work on the collector SMG.

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DullahansXMark

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... I just want the damn thing. I don't care how bad it is.

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This has been discussed to death, search for older threads.
PS: It sucks.

Modifié par Catastrophe__, 30 octobre 2012 - 04:55 .


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Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Its a good weapon, but doesnt deserve to be UR



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Because it's not as good as the Tempest and is somehow a UR.

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PoetryAvenger wrote...

I don't have it, but from what I understand it's a combination of low magazine size and it's multiplier against armor being applied after armor's DR.


Eww, seriously? That means on Gold you're doing bare minimum damage (1?). Multiply by 1.5 to get... 1.5 damage per shot. Which means a whole clip does 45 damage. Try killing a Brute with 9000 armor on Gold with that thing! LOL

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Mines at I or II and the cool down takes WAY too long and doesn't cool down wen it's put away.

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jakal66

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The worst part is the low ammo, recharge is too friggin long...they need to make that longer...and faster reload, it is an UR after all

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drmoose00

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Astronaughte wrote...

doesn't cool down wen it's put away.


low ammo, and this^

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Methew

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DullahansXMark wrote...

PoetryAvenger wrote...

I don't have it, but from what I understand it's a combination of low magazine size and it's multiplier against armor being applied after armor's DR.


Eww, seriously? That means on Gold you're doing bare minimum damage (1?). Multiply by 1.5 to get... 1.5 damage per shot. Which means a whole clip does 45 damage. Try killing a Brute with 9000 armor on Gold with that thing! LOL

That's why the only mods you use for it are EM/HVB

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ollpet wrote...

I Hate it, mine is at lvl 1.


Until it's higher, I have to say the Hurricane (which I have at III) is much much better. I'm eager to get it up to your level X. Oof, someday. 

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^ The Hurricane 1 is better than the CSMG 10. That should tell you something.

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Yajuu Omoi

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Here's the stats at X (Ultra-Rare):

Damage per Shot: 46.80
Damage vs Armor (Gold): 20.20 (unless the rumor about the 1.5x multiplier is true, then its only 7.50)
Clip Size: 40
Burst DPS: 624.00
Sust DPS: 312.00
Weight: 0.35

And here's the Tempest at X (UNCOMMON):
Damage per Shot: 59.40
Damage vs Armor (Gold): 9.40
Clip Size: 50
Burst DPS: 643.50
Sust DPS: 485.66
Weight: 0.30

And the Locust at X (UNCOMMON):

Damage per Shot: 51.00
Damage vs Armor (Gold): 5
Clip Size: 25
Burst DPS: 467.50
Sust DPS: 372.02
Weight: 0.30

The UNCOMMON SMGs are as good/better...soo...thats why everyone (mostly) hates it.
Oh, and the Uncommons are also 90x easier to GET...let alone max out...

Modifié par Yajuu Omoi, 30 octobre 2012 - 06:31 .


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Silent Indignation

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I'm sure it's awesome at X. I was using it quite a bit a level 1 for the challenges and was impressed with it right up until the point where I would have to wait for recharge due to overheat. I would love to have it at level X... I would love to have a lot of things at level X.

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ASmoothCriminalx

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Duh, DPS is all that matters dude. didn't you know??

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Yajuu Omoi

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ASmoothCriminalx wrote...

Duh, DPS is all that matters dude. didn't you know??


There's DPS, weight, ease of use, and niches.

It loses the first 3 to the Uncommon SMGs, and has no Niche to fill that isn't already filled better by the CSR or PPR.