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[Alikain]

I am surprisingly shocked about this, why people keep say its Duncan. I mean can't you guys let that character die. Anyway back to topic I never like anders, but I get what you are saying OP. for my Mage Warden also keep Ander in check. But to see how Justice became one with Ander was the badness idea ever. This will definitely cause the chantry to say that warden mages were giving too much freedom.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

And now about half the conversation on the thread is about Duncan. Joking or serious, this is why I wish Solmanian and Maria hadn't said anything.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 30 octobre 2012 - 07:43 .

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Crazy Eyed One wrote...

Well the Grey Wardens have Mages within their ranks, so I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Templars killing Warden Mages.

I doubt it. My impression is that even the Crows don't like messing with the Wardens.

[mitthrawuodo]

In Act 2 the grey wardens were going to Orlais so it's likely that they're involved in DA3 somehow

[mousestalker]

No one has mentioned that Sandal remains unseen in game until well after Duncan allegedly died. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together, now does it?

[Maclimes]

mousestalker wrote...

No one has mentioned that Sandal remains unseen in game until well after Duncan allegedly died. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together, now does it?

Don't. Just ... don't.

[The Elder King]

mousestalker wrote...

No one has mentioned that Sandal remains unseen in game until well after Duncan allegedly died. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together, now does it?

I fear to ask this, and what role has Bodhan is all of this?

[Maria Caliban]

mousestalker wrote...

No one has mentioned that Sandal remains unseen in game until well after Duncan allegedly died. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together, now does it?

Why did I never see it before? 

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

hhh89 wrote...

mousestalker wrote...

No one has mentioned that Sandal remains unseen in game until well after Duncan allegedly died. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together, now does it?

I fear to ask this, and what role has Bodhan is all of this?

Manservant? <_<

[The Elder King]

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

mousestalker wrote...

No one has mentioned that Sandal remains unseen in game until well after Duncan allegedly died. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together, now does it?

I fear to ask this, and what role has Bodhan is all of this?

Manservant? <_<

I was referring to all the stories he told about Sandal and how he's concerned about him as if Sandal is his son, not his occupation.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

hhh89 wrote...

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

Manservant? <_<

I was referring to all the stories he told about Sandal and how he's concerned about him as if Sandal is his son, not his occupation.

Either Bodhan's a good actor, or, as his reaction to the prophecy indicates, he's completely in the dark.

[The Elder King]

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

Manservant? <_<

I was referring to all the stories he told about Sandal and how he's concerned about him as if Sandal is his son, not his occupation.

Either Bodhan's a good actor, or, as his reaction to the prophecy indicates, he's completely in the dark.

A mage clearly made a spell to make him forget that Sandal didn't exist before Duncan's death.

[General User]

Per Awakening, it seems that the Grey Wardens are becoming less concerned with their primary purpose of ending Blights, and more concerned with acquiring more and more political power.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

General User wrote...

Per Awakening, it seems that the Grey Wardens are becoming less concerned with their primary purpose of ending Blights, and more concerned with acquiring more and more political power.

I think that's how it has been for a while, except that it got put on hold due to a Blight actually happening.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 30 octobre 2012 - 09:19 .

[TheJediSaint]

General User wrote...

Per Awakening, it seems that the Grey Wardens are becoming less concerned with their primary purpose of ending Blights, and more concerned with acquiring more and more political power.

I think that's mostly true in the Anderfels.  Everywhere else, the Grew Wardens were in decline.  Of course, assuming Dragon Age 3 starts some time after the events of Asunder, they've had a decade to reverse that trend.   Possibly with the help of the player character Warden, as well.

Modifié par TheJediSaint, 30 octobre 2012 - 09:20 .

[Dio Demon]

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

Crazy Eyed One wrote...

Well the Grey Wardens have Mages within their ranks, so I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Templars killing Warden Mages.

I doubt it. My impression is that even the Crows don't like messing with the Wardens.

But there has been precedence on the Templars part with messing with Mage Wardens just look at the Anders short story I think its lying in the DA2 forums somewhere.

[TEWR]

given how the Avernus side quest in Act 1 had someone moving against the Wardens by hiring bandits to acquire their documents, I'd say they're definitely involved in the Chantry conflict.

It's possible that Divine Beatrix III, angered by the Wardens' involvement in Ferelden's/Orzammar's politics, began to move against the Wardens.

Then she kicked the bucket and Justinia V took the papal throne.

General User wrote...

Per Awakening, it seems that the Grey Wardens are becoming less concerned with their primary purpose of ending Blights, and more concerned with acquiring more and more political power.

More that they want to acquire more political power to further their primary purpose of ending the Blights, as opposed to doing less of one and wanting more of the other.

Because that's what the First Warden in the Anderfels was talking about. That Wardens are always needed, not just in Blights. And that they need a strong presence in each of the nations if they want to be able to do their job properly without incidents like Ferelden that almost culminated in the entire nation falling to the Darkspawn.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 31 octobre 2012 - 02:39 .

[Josielyn]

I will bet that if Loghain is made head of the Grey Wardens in Orlais, that they will INDEED become more concerned with acquiring more and more political power!

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

Yalision wrote...

So I've been wondering. Since Anders explodes the Chantry and whatnot, what kind of implications will this have for the Grey Wardens? I'm not sure if this has been heavily discussed, but even as an "ex" Grey Warden, Anders was still part of the order at one point, an apostate conscripted who otherwise likely would have been made tranquil in time. I can't imagine that the Chantry is very pleased with the order's tolerance of all things magic related *cough* blood magic *cough*. Lets face it, Anders was an abomination and Justice had become vengeance, just a step away from another run of the mill rage demon.

I think the Grey Wardens may have to defend themselves and be a little more involved this time around in the world's affairs?

Edit: Come to think of it, that would be a pretty good reason to bee looking for the Warden as well. Someone of his or her stature would certainly help to explain away the deeds of a former Warden, perhaps?

I think it would add an interesting layer to the conflict if the Grey Wardens were suspected of fomenting chaos through Anders' actions. However that would depend on knowledge of Anders as the culprit being reasonably widespread. Even if it isn't common knowledge, I imagine those higher up in the Chantry and Templars would know that it was a mage who blew up the temple in Kirkwall, even if they didn't know his name.

The Grey Wardens might also be the focus of some of the Chantry or Templars' ire simply because they count mages among their numbers.

[Ex-Paladin]

Josielyn wrote...

I will bet that if Loghain is made head of the Grey Wardens in Orlais, that they will INDEED become more concerned with acquiring more and more political power!

Oh snap! Loghain is alive in my game, with Alistair and Anora married ooh, the fun! >

And my Warden wants nothing to do with, well, anything involving humans and city elves XD human hating Dalish elf :3 but she definitely would shoot an arrow through Anders' skull she liked Justice and a human took him! D:< *shot* XD

[Yalision]

Well we know what happened to Anders because of his short story, but that doesn't mean it is general knowledge if you lived in that world. It's entirely probable that it was a small vendetta to get Anders by particular Chantry figures who put the Templar within the Grey Wardens to antagonize him and not a massive Chantry scheme. After all, even in Awakening it is just one particular woman who is out to get Anders, not an entire legion of Templars out to make a case against him in some glorious public display.

As far as anyone knows, Anders was a Grey Warden who murdered other Grey Wardens, went ape**** and blew up the Chantry in Kirkwall. That is public knowledge and the only real public knowledge there is so it stands to reason the Grey Wardens could easily be fingered for the deed by harboring abominations (in a his word vs her word scenario about planning to expel him from the order) and dragged into the war. That is, unless the Chantry individuals responsible for shadowing him come forward and admit their guilt... which I find unlikely.

[Terrorize69]

PurebredCorn wrote...

mousestalker wrote...

No one has mentioned that Sandal remains unseen in game until well after Duncan allegedly died. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together, now does it?

Why did I not see this before?! Of course... now it all makes perfect sense.

Leliana is never seen till after Duncan dies and shes shown to be an expert at surviving deaths, Duncan/Leliana, time lords!

[Auintus]

Cassandra seemed to think that the Grey Wardens have some vendetta or another against the Chantry.
Ooh, didn't somebody say that we get to learn what the Wardens were up to in DA2?(Passing through Kirkwall on something important, retracing Hawke's expedition.)

[The Six Path of Pain]

My Warden would tell the Chantry to suck it and get over it lol
Seriously though knowing the chantry it wouldn't surprise me if they find some way to blame the Grey Wardens(even though Anders is no longer part of the order)....Also Justice isn't a demon he has become a spirit of vengeance.Veangeance could be considered a form of justice,So he's still Justice just more violent