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[XxDarkTimexX]

i'll say this much Synthesis is good but since the reapers are giving us the option. Then i would say HELL NO ITS NOT GOOD

Modifié par XxDarkTimexX, 31 octobre 2012 - 12:31 .

[EnvyTB075]

Sovereign330 wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Simple, those slides are to appease you people who are willing to think about everything skin deep. "Oh look, everyones happy, geez everything must be fine".

If you seriously think that living with the Reapers as your "friends", after what they've done, is going to work out you've got one heck of a surprise coming. Just think about it, would YOU be ok working with them if they had turned your friends and family into husks?

Yeah thats gonna work out brilliantly

Japan and the United States are getting along fine and we dropped two mega deuces on them back in the 40s...and we put them in internment camps...Just saying

Thats hardly the same, and you're trvialising those events by making that comparison.

[Steelcan]

Just saying about Japan in WW2', they were known for executing/brutally treating American POW's. They also killed Chinese and Koreans for fun. Nanking ring a bell?

[ghost9191]

the idea behind synthesis is fine , but wouldn't force it on everything . if ppl wish to achieve it then they can do so by their own free will


coming from the leader of the reapers didn't help but my reasons go deeper then that .

[AdmiralCheez]

Actually, CosmicGnosis, my main problem with Synthesis is that it's TOO MUCH of a utopia. It's happy-shiny butterflies and rainbows achieved through getting a "perfect" playthrough. All of the WTF space magic and moral/ethical shenanigans actually come second to that eerie way-too-perfect feeling.

The shiny-happiness only adds to the creep-out factor of the glow eyes and sudden passiveness and fundamentally changing all life at its very roots and blah blah blah.

2spooky4me.

[Bill Casey]

These pictures are pretty much standard fair for societies that have eliminated free will...
You can skyrocket the standard of living, eliminate hate, poverty, discrimination, overpopulation, etc...

It's fundamentally how you create a utopian (dystopian) society...
Free will gets in the way of a lot of ****...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 31 octobre 2012 - 12:57 .

[clennon8]

Yeah, I think there's good reason why most of us are suspicious of utopias.

[Omega2079]

The slides are divorced from the rest of the story. It's a sudden change from sci-fi to fantasy. The inconsistency makes them inappropriate for m.e.

[Mims]

I see creepy green eyes, and its nope nope nope.

[The Night Mammoth]

I don't metagame to decide which choice is best.

Even so, nothing shown can't be achieved by choosing something else.

[Steelcan]

Synthesis like every other ending is open to our own interpretation. I like Destroy much better than the other endings, but I see where people come from when they say they like control/refuse/synthesis. I have lots of reasons for not liking theses different endings. But this endless flaming is just pointless, you are not going to convince anyone.

[ghost9191]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

I don't metagame to decide which choice is best.

Even so, nothing shown can't be achieved by choosing something else.

probably a good reason to avoid  synthesis. destroy is simple. blow up some reapers and geth.

control.. kill yourself but in doing so give control to a new catalyst based on sheps memories and thoughts

or synthesis , which takes way more then 30 secs to explain and longer to justify and think about

[ghost9191]

Steelcan wrote...

Synthesis like every other ending is open to our own interpretation. I like Destroy much better than the other endings, but I see where people come from when they say they like control/refuse/synthesis. I have lots of reasons for not liking theses different endings. But this endless flaming is just pointless, you are not going to convince anyone.

idk i am pretty sure i can convince you

[Steelcan]

ghost9191 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Synthesis like every other ending is open to our own interpretation. I like Destroy much better than the other endings, but I see where people come from when they say they like control/refuse/synthesis. I have lots of reasons for not liking theses different endings. But this endless flaming is just pointless, you are not going to convince anyone.

idk i am pretty sure i can convince you

. Go for it:devil:

[Bill Casey]

clennon8 wrote...

Yeah, I think there's good reason why most of us are suspicious of utopias.

I wish you could see it like I do, Shepard...
It's so... perfect...

(Three minutes later)

Modifié par Bill Casey, 31 octobre 2012 - 01:24 .

[FlyingSquirrel]

Bill Casey wrote...

These pictures are pretty much standard fair for societies that have eliminated free will...
You can skyrocket the standard of living, eliminate hate, poverty, discrimination, overpopulation, etc...

It's fundamentally how you create a utopian (dystopian) society...
Free will gets in the way of a lot of ****...

I assume you mean in other science fiction narratives? While that may sometimes be the case, I don't think every sci-fi utopia is actually a hidden dystopia. Star Trek, for example, plays its idealized future pretty straight - while there is still conflict, life seems to be a lot easier and more rewarding, and the Federation appears to be a free, open society.

[ghost9191]

Steelcan wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Synthesis like every other ending is open to our own interpretation. I like Destroy much better than the other endings, but I see where people come from when they say they like control/refuse/synthesis. I have lots of reasons for not liking theses different endings. But this endless flaming is just pointless, you are not going to convince anyone.

idk i am pretty sure i can convince you

. Go for it:devil:

well we pretty much agree on most parts, so thought it would be done already

[Steelcan]

ghost9191 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Synthesis like every other ending is open to our own interpretation. I like Destroy much better than the other endings, but I see where people come from when they say they like control/refuse/synthesis. I have lots of reasons for not liking theses different endings. But this endless flaming is just pointless, you are not going to convince anyone.

idk i am pretty sure i can convince you

. Go for it:devil:

well we pretty much agree on most parts, so thought it would be done already

. It is hard to convert someone who already agrees with you

[ghost9191]

FlyingSquirrel wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

These pictures are pretty much standard fair for societies that have eliminated free will...
You can skyrocket the standard of living, eliminate hate, poverty, discrimination, overpopulation, etc...

It's fundamentally how you create a utopian (dystopian) society...
Free will gets in the way of a lot of ****...

I assume you mean in other science fiction narratives? While that may sometimes be the case, I don't think every sci-fi utopia is actually a hidden dystopia. Star Trek, for example, plays its idealized future pretty straight - while there is still conflict, life seems to be a lot easier and more rewarding, and the Federation appears to be a free, open society.

no where near the same. would say it was closer to ME before the reapers arrived. pretty much like the borg.  it is hardly perfect, it is pretty close before the choice. synthesis in the star trek universe would be like lettin gthe borg succeed . but anyways you can't really compare startrek universe as a utopia

[Bill Casey]

FlyingSquirrel wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

These pictures are pretty much standard fair for societies that have eliminated free will...
You can skyrocket the standard of living, eliminate hate, poverty, discrimination, overpopulation, etc...

It's fundamentally how you create a utopian (dystopian) society...
Free will gets in the way of a lot of ****...

I assume you mean in other science fiction narratives? While that may sometimes be the case, I don't think every sci-fi utopia is actually a hidden dystopia. Star Trek, for example, plays its idealized future pretty straight - while there is still conflict, life seems to be a lot easier and more rewarding, and the Federation appears to be a free, open society.

I certainly don't consider Star Trek a utopia...

[Isichar]

Free will SYNTHESIS

[Big I]

With the possible exception of the geth and quarians living side by side, everything in Synthesis is presumably the result of the Reapers sharing their technology with the galaxy. Control already does that with AI Shepard in command of the Reapers.


I don't care what exclusive slides Sythesis has, anything good that happens in Synthesis is available through Control.

[NightShadow1800]

Synthesis is the removal of individuality, choice, free will... sure there's peace, but at the cost of who we are, what makes us unique. Personally I'd rather face destruction then have those things taken away.

[Random Geth]

It's ridiculous, unexplained goddamn magic. So are all of them, really, but at least in Destroy and Control you have a pretty precise understanding as far as what unfolds after you shoot the tube or grab the lightning rods. In Synthesis, you get "and then everything was great and we, like, totally all understood each other, and, like, y'know, totally made peace and transcended and stuff, man. It was groovy."

Nevermind that this is the most favored option of the enemy general, who we're supposed to take at his word. Frankly, I DON'T buy the slides, or the whole "this is the only option that ends the cycle" BS. It's a ridiculous child's vision of a utopia and nothing more.

There are other reasons that it's intellectually stupid and morally reprehensible, but others have said it better than I can, and I'm too tired of all this to make the *long* posts.  Still bitter enough to chime in though, I guess.

Modifié par Random Geth, 31 octobre 2012 - 01:52 .

[chuckles471]

I like it how a couple of pictures of "perfection" and a couple of pretentious lines, are going to convince people that synthesis is a good idea. You have just made propaganda, I would continue but a chap named Godwin put a stop to that.

It's not the sights or the sounds that are the problem, it's what has happened to the whole of the galaxy.