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[udinbak4]

thewalrusx wrote...

you have to consider the fact that all URs can be maxed with enough real life money spent, there have been players on BSN state that they have spent $2,000+

Are you serious? Now I do not feel bad for spending 100 in total..

[PeskySquirrel]

It took me about 500 hours to max my manifest. This was with zero packs purchased with real money and playing all gold/platinum. I bought psps primarily.

[drmoose00]

anything is possible, but if they didn't spend any real $$, I wold still say that 300 hrs would be very fast  - alot of platinum maybe. I have spent 450+ and have 8/12 at X, with 2 at IX, and 2 lower.

the last bit is taking a ridiculously long time, and I am convinced as you level some to X, the drop rate drops, because I am seeing about 2-3% over the last 15 million credits...

[FredLOMD]

acester1 wrote...

FredLOMD wrote...

Well, I'm at more hours than I care to admit (not 300 but it's a lot) and I still haven't maxed a single UR. That said, I'm incredibly unlucky and started playing before these PSPs that make the process so much easier.

Personally, I think your going way out of your way on this one. If your playing a game and someone is exploiting a glitch and it's impacting your enjoyment of the game, go a head and report them. But going out of your way to discover that some's manifest looks a little too good for their play time and then reporting them for that. I'm sorry but that just seems kind of petty to me.

I feel like I have to tell you the details.

My country's N7 leaderboard top guy was a cheater.

He has billions of credits and maxed out all ultra-rares in few hours.

Not to mention his N7 score sky rocketed in a few days.

When particle rifle introduced to multiplayer, he changed it I to X in few minutes and boasted to his friends.

It quited discouraged other players.

Moreover, it seems like that he tought cheating skills to some of his friends.

So... I and my friends deleted him from friend list and decided to do some action.

Currently, I'm working this(making list of cheaters) with my friends, who think credit exploiters should be banned.

My friends gather information, and my role is to translate the language and mail it to bioware.

I can understand your frustration. However, going on a witch hunt for any and all cheaters isn't going to solve anything. My advise would be to forget about him and just enjoy the game.

The internet is full of jerks. And all most of them really want is to make you angry so you lash out at them. It's a cry for attention. Don't give into it or they get to have fun and you don't.

[khannoir]

Chevyboy88 wrote...

1165 games played, 397 hours (vast majority of games are gold from pre platinum days, mix of gold and plat since) and I still have about half of the UR's to go. Have one X, quite a few VII-IX, a couple at I and the rest in between.

Yes I have horrible, awful luck.

Better luck than mine...

[dysomnium]

How about not reporting people unless you witness them cheating? I don't think BioWare needs to be wasting time based on speculation when there are other things to consider.

I've spent more than a pretty penny on PSP's 'cause I BioWare. I may not have all my UR's maxed out, or even all of them unlocked, but I have more than most people near my hours logged.

[drmoose00]

udinbak4 wrote...

thewalrusx wrote...

you have to consider the fact that all URs can be maxed with enough real life money spent, there have been players on BSN state that they have spent $2,000+

Are you serious? Now I do not feel bad for spending 100 in total..

this explains the low drop rate....

[alhamel94]

also assuming you started on gold and never played bronze or silver ever. just picked up the game and began speedruns

[acester1]

Bryan Johnson wrote...

120 UR to unlock
Let's say the drop rate for UR is 25% in a PSP(it isnt)
This means you would need 480 PSPs
That is 47.52million credits
Lets say we consider gold 82k per match
That is 579.5 gold matches
15min per gold
144hr

So take what part of math you like and figure out what is resonable to you.

Thanks for the advice 

It will come in handy 

[N7 Whiskey]

@ foli567: I have never reported anyone, in any game. It isn't worth my time, but I do understand reporting for blatantly ruining the experience and I'm fine with missile glitchers being reported. That said, I think I've run into maybe 5 missile glitchers in my 1k hours of gameplay.

I have run into way more credit glitchers, and I trolled each and every one I came across. Instead of reporting, I'd just announce to them "Don't worry guys, I got this!" and then proceed to solo the rest of wave 10. Oh, those were good times!


@ acester1: I don't give a rats arse about the scoreboard cheater in your country. You and 5 other people in the world care about the leaderboards. Nobody else does. Also, the credit glitch was patched months ago, so that cheater isn't teaching anyone to do jack squat. And you know what else¿ Every person you get banned just starts a new account and missile glitches thier way to a full manifest anyway, so you are essentially doubling the amount of cheating that they do. Good job!

[Raging Nug]

acester1 wrote...
I'm responsible for banning 10+ people

Not that useless, I think 

Feeling slightly revolted - not that you reported cheaters, but it almost sounds like you're bragging about it like it's something worth being proud about. I think if you're going to come across someone who's got suspicious gaming behavior, go right ahead and report them - but actively hunting people according to their manifest seems almost vindictive, which goes against the feeling of community that players enjoy.

Just my take on it.

[AwesomeBabyLion]

Bryan Johnson wrote...

Well I was basically doing the math such that it is easy to alter the numbers. If you think the drop rate is half that, then it would be 288hr, if you think average gold match is 20min multiply the hours by 1.33. If you say it is platinum average then take the number and divide by ~1.5

OMG.. Your some sort of.. sort of.. MATH ZOMBIE!!! Seriously.. Impressive stuff XD

I think I read somewhere the drop chance was speculated to be about 7% (based on players analysis) and that sorta seems right to me. I have a pretty decent UR collection I think, but I spend money with each DLC release as a form of support and also speeding up the progress a little =)

acester1 wrote...
I'm responsible for banning 10+ people

I think its good that players do their to help with the game stability and such, but actively hunting down people seems a bit excessive. I mean, it's good that your doing for the whole game on a general basis, but.. How to say this.. Don't you have other stuff to do? =p

Anyway, good luck to you

Modifié par titusthelegendaryfox, 31 octobre 2012 - 06:01 .

[AngryBobH]

I feel tremendously unlucky now. I'm over 600 hours and still don't have my URs maxed.

[AwesomeBabyLion]

Edit: Double post due to high lack of forum skillz...

Modifié par titusthelegendaryfox, 31 octobre 2012 - 06:01 .

[Arppis]

Bryan Johnson wrote...

120 UR to unlock
Let's say the drop rate for UR is 25% in a PSP(it isnt)
This means you would need 480 PSPs
That is 47.52million credits
Lets say we consider gold 82k per match
That is 579.5 gold matches
15min per gold
144hr

So take what part of math you like and figure out what is resonable to you.

And you CAN buy them with real money too. Well, the packs.

[PimplyPete]

I'm not good with numbers but I have 600+ hours and still haven't maxed all of them out yet...what does that say?

[rka001]

acester1 wrote...

I'm making a list of suspected credit exploiters which will be sent to bioware.

I think there's a high possibility that who max all UR's under 200 hours can be a cheater.

However, I'm not sure that it's common to max all UR under 300 hours.

What do you think? Do I have to include them in my list?

290 hrs of play. About 25% of all URs. No real money spent.

Besides, you
a) need a different hobby
might learn one day, that it is actually nice to be liked by people :/

[Koenig888]

The numbers disregard the fact that a number of Gold games do not complete wave 10 or the disconnect rate. A more realistic number would be upwards of 500 hours. It is certainly possible to max out the URs sooner for the elite players, but these guys are at the extreme end of the bell curve.

[Bryan Johnson]

berryco wrote...

Bryan Johnson wrote...

120 UR to unlock
Let's say the drop rate for UR is 25% in a PSP(it isnt)
This means you would need 480 PSPs
That is 47.52million credits
Lets say we consider gold 82k per match
That is 579.5 gold matches
15min per gold
144hr

So take what part of math you like and figure out what is resonable to you.

I have some different math for you

120 UR to unlock
Let's say the drop rate for UR is X% in a PSP (pick whatever numbers you want 0<X<=100. In other words, there is always a chance for Ultra Rares)
This means every single PSP has a chance of containing an ultra rare
We've even seen reports of users receiving 2 ultra rares in a single pack
This means, every single PSP has a chance of containing two ultra rares
So a minimum of 60 PSPs are needed
That is 5.94 million credits
Lets say we consider gold 82k per match
That is 72.4 gold matches
20min per gold (seemed like a reasonable number to me, but very much depends on the player)
24hr (assuming that they're not playing platinum, in which case, they could go much faster)


Now, I know this is highly unlikely to happen statistically, but it's important to know that it CAN happen. It's the nature of probabilities, someone might get 2 URs in every single pack, someone else might never get an UR at all. Both are highly unlikely to happen, but still, both are possible.

Let's say the chance to drop 1 UR is 15% so the chance to drop 2 UR is 15%*15% or 2.25% 

So that means 2.25%^60 so yes I can that is statistically such a small number it will never happen.

You have a better chance of being an astronaut, in a bathtub, struck by lightning while you win the lottery.

[Raging Nug]

Bryan Johnson wrote...
Let's say the chance to drop 1 UR is 15% so the chance to drop 2 UR is 15%*15% or 2.25% 

So that means 2.25%^60 so yes I can that is statistically such a small number it will never happen.

You have a better chance of being an astronaut, in a bathtub, struck by lightning while you win the lottery. 

Or scoring highest out of four players in a Platinum match as a Volus

[rka001]

x
Extraordinary statements need extraordinary proof. Not counting in the real money issue makes you look quite naive. Also, BW will never look into your list because of this.

Also, you might think about the following topics:

1. Occam`s razor.
2. Nobody likes self-proclaimed deputy sheriffs.

[Raging Nug]

rka001 wrote...
2. Nobody likes self-proclaimed deputy sheriffs.

Unless you're a deputy breast inspector. Everybody loves those.

But really, it does seem mean-spirited, which is a turn-off.

[Volkai7]

PSPs are buy able with real money so it's possible to buy that theoretical minimum of 60 PSPs for 240*60 = 14400MSP/Bioware Points = $180 USD without playing a single match. Unlikely, but entirely possible.

[Brakensiek]

I broke 300 hours today and still have a lot of ultra-rare unlocks to go. In fact, I just bought 10 PSP and did not get a single ultra-rare. If this guy is legit and did not buy with any money then what the **** is taking me so long? Haha.

Is there some super easy Platinum farming setup that takes no consumables?

[kuri71]

I have 7 maxed URs one at nine and another at eight in 638 hours of play so I would say it's very statistically unlikely that someone could do it in 300 but if someone were to buy packs with $, they could probably max the manifest in about an hour or so of constant buying I would guess.