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[Cornughon]

According to my N7 HQ, I'm at 450 hours of playing time, and still need another 10 UR unlocks to max them out fully... And yes I did even buy plenty of Bioware points usually during release time of new addons...

[Leronel]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Leronel wrote...

The interressant thing, is to see that there are really more players who private their N7 HQ in top of leaderboards.

And why would you care about that? If they do cheat, BioWare can see their profiles, even if they made it private.

Yes they can, but are they doing it ? First thing an intelligent credit cheaters do is make is profile private. To not get reported by other gamer.

And I do a little trip into different leaderboards, and first thing I saw in top is lot of private profiles, Thing I don't see below.

I think Bioware must check these profile in priority, If they do so, it in next ban wave they will ban cheaters and other people who are legit will stay.

So as a legit player why do you care ?

[Batchi]

You can search and report them.

Or you can get a life, whatever seems reasonable to you.

[Constant Motion]

120 Ultra-Rares to unlock. 15% chance of an UR in any given Premium Spectre pack makes approximately 800 packs, on PSPs alone.

Each Gold match - keeping in mind most of them will have been played pre-extraction bonus - used to be worth about 76k out of the 99k a PSP costs. So divide 800 by (76000/99000) and 800 packs is around 1,042 Gold matches.

23 minutes, I think is a fair average for a Gold match - taking into account tricky matches and talented players alike. 23/60 is 0.383', 1,042x0.383' is... 400 hours! Well, 399. But almost spot on 400.

To get it that quickly, you'd need to never wipe out, never play lower difficulties - that, or be way under my (admittedly guessed) average time for Gold clearance.

So I'd say anything beneath 400 is suspicious, but plausible for a talented player who can regularly clear Gold in under 20 minutes, and who has a bit of luck on their hands.

Anything beneath 300, I'd say, is very suspicious. It's within the realms of possibility - they might've done a lot of Platinum speed runs - but only just.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Leronel wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Leronel wrote...

The interressant thing, is to see that there are really more players who private their N7 HQ in top of leaderboards.

And why would you care about that? If they do cheat, BioWare can see their profiles, even if they made it private.

Yes they can, but are they doing it ? First thing an intelligent credit cheaters do is make is profile private. To not get reported by other gamer.

And I do a little trip into different leaderboards, and first thing I saw in top is lot of private profiles, Thing I don't see below.

I think Bioware must check these profile in priority, If they do so, it in next ban wave they will ban cheaters and other people who are legit will stay.

So as a legit player why do you care ?

I don't really care. But if BioWare decides to check the top players more often, sure. I could care less 

[Emphrygian]

JohnBes wrote...

spudspot wrote...

JohnBes wrote...

Bryan Johnson wrote...

You are using Bernoulli trial incorrectly in this case, this is used only to find out the probability of exactly 120 successes. You would need to do a sumation of Pn(120) to Pn(1200) to find it out. But given this case it would be just assumed that 1/4 packs would give you a UR.

Indeed, it's used to find out probability of exactly 120 successes out of 1200 tries.
Why would you need to do summation?

To account for cases where you've maxed your URs before buying the last pack? Furthermore, your expectancy value - given 1200 tries and a 25% success rate - would be E = n*p = 1200 * 0,25 = 300. So yeah, such a small probability for having maxed your URs doesn't sound right.

And I don't think I made an arithmetical mistake somewhere. Problem is that URs "capped" at 120 - once you have them all, you stop getting them from PSPs. Bernoulli trial indeed may not be applied here

So yeah, my bad, my bad

You could look at it as you get an UR, but don't see it in game, which should make the calculations work out. Say we spend on average 20 minutes in a gold game:

300*60/20 = 900 games played
900 * 82000 / 99000 = ~745 PSPs (assuming no failed games at all, so let's say 700)

Now here's where it gets interesting, if the chance of getting an UR is 25%, then the chance of maxing all URs from 700 PSPs is 99.99998% (using the sum of the chances of getting 120-700 URs in 700 packs). However, if the chance of an UR is 15%, then the chance of maxing all URs in 700 packs falls to 21.8%. If the UR chance is only 10%, then, well, let's just say that you aren't likely to ever max all URs from 700 PSPs...

[greghorvath]

The BSN always shows there is always lower.

In connection to ME3 we've had first the ending whiners (who are still going strong btw). Then we had the advocates of that pathetic farce called balancing simultaneously with the anti farming lobby who were unable to make a friends list and play what they wanted. But I think with this thread we have reached a new low, with people who spend time with perusing other people's profiles and drawing conclusions from inormation that is not.

I'm looking forward of what depths will be conquered in the future. In the meanwhile, I'm switching back to private.

[ThatGuyThatPlaysThisGame]

Lamiaaa wrote...

only takes about $5000

[Cloaking_Thane]

siris98 wrote...

some ppl are rlly lucky and efficient, like i have played only like 110 hours and have all rares and most urs and the stupid talon at 4

The Talon is a fantastic weapon

[blue water]

greghorvath wrote...

The BSN always shows there is always lower.

In connection to ME3 we've had first the ending whiners (who are still going strong btw). Then we had the advocates of that pathetic farce called balancing simultaneously with the anti farming lobby who were unable to make a friends list and play what they wanted. But I think with this thread we have reached a new low, with people who spend time with perusing other people's profiles and drawing conclusions from inormation that is not.

I'm looking forward of what depths will be conquered in the future. In the meanwhile, I'm switching back to private.

Sound advice.  I'll do the same.

[Loscakes]

This is just sad.

[Marauder-Shields]

I buy packs every now and then to support the MP devs. That said, I couldn't see myself spending so much that I could max out everything in such a short time. I'm 100 hours in and nowhere near even getting all N7 items, let alone maxing ultras.

[Eclispe]

acester1 wrote...

Mordred_Moridin wrote...

Just as an FYI, some people use real money to get packs and could (with enough cash) get all URs unlocked with 0 hours played. So really what you are doing is useless.

I'm responsible for banning 10+ people

Not that useless, I think

Well i when i have a spare 8 pound in my bank i like to treat myself to a few MSP and use them on packs and if i unlocked a Ultra-Rare and got it upgraded does that make a exploiter  which is ruining the game? So if you came across me on Xbox i only have 52 hours or something and by chance if i had a few a Ultra rares maxed how would you know or tell i was glitching to get them ? thats how you get innocent people banned  if you "Think" there exploiting have cold hard evidence. 

[Lord Chun]

Well I have 450+ hrs and not one maxed UR I think it's because Bryan hates me .

By the way. Hate everyone who has a maxed UR even just one

[LePetitRobot]

Chevyboy88 wrote...

1165 games played, 397 hours (vast majority of games are gold from pre platinum days, mix of gold and plat since) and I still have about half of the UR's to go. Have one X, quite a few VII-IX, a couple at I and the rest in between.

Yes I have horrible, awful luck.

I think that's average luck.

[greghorvath]

Lord Chun wrote...
By the way. Hate everyone who has a maxed UR even just one

Don't hate me for for being beautiful.

[cronshaw]

I wish I were better at math, math is cool. Eyeballing it though it seems unlikely someone could unlock all the URs in under 300 hrs. Even the best players in the game seem to take around 12-15 min for a gold match.

[Lord Chun]

greghorvath wrote...

Lord Chun wrote...
By the way. Hate everyone who has a maxed UR even just one

Don't hate me for for being beautiful.

Yes even you 

[SapientesGladio]

acester1 wrote...

I'm making a list of suspected credit exploiters which will be sent to bioware.

I think there's a high possibility that who max all UR's under 200 hours can be a cheater.

However, I'm not sure that it's common to max all UR under 300 hours.

What do you think? Do I have to include them in my list?

HEY BIOWARE,,,FREE WORK LOLL

[GriM_AoD]

*sigh* I've spent a daft amount of time on this game (700+hrs). And I'm only about half way on my URs =/

[SlayerGP]

I've got 239 hours and have all rares maxed. URs:
- 2 at lvl 1
- 2 at lvl 2
- 4 at lvl 3
- 2 at lvl 4
- 1 at lvl 5
- Missing only the Indra

And the store being based on a RNG means that some people will be better off than me and some won't. I also buy maybe only 1 PSP per 2 or 3 weeks with real money. So I wouldn't say it's impossible.

Modifié par SlayerGP, 31 octobre 2012 - 01:03 .

[cgj]

i have 360h played
almost exclusively gold and platinium
never bought PSP with real money

the average level of my URs is 4


RNG is the worst store system to have ever been in existence

[Cloaking_Thane]

Well I don't have them all maxed so I automatically assume everyone else is cheating

[Kiernin]

sclera wrote...

Bryan Johnson wrote...

120 UR to unlock
Let's say the drop rate for UR is 25% in a PSP(it isnt)
This means you would need 480 PSPs
That is 47.52million credits
Lets say we consider gold 82k per match
That is 579.5 gold matches
15min per gold
144hr

So take what part of math you like and figure out what is resonable to you.

That's pretty generous. 

Its not too far off the mark. Average gold should only take at most 22 minutes. 25 if your team is bad and the map is large. What's really generous is the 25% drop rate. If you dig a little further on the forums, the amount of credits you would need is somewhere around the 72million range, not 47.

I played mostly gold for a large portion of my 370 hours, and then plat when that mode was introduced. Still nowhere close to maxxing all my URs. So I passed that 144hr mark a long time ago.