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[greghorvath]

Kiernin wrote...

sclera wrote...

Bryan Johnson wrote...

120 UR to unlock
Let's say the drop rate for UR is 25% in a PSP(it isnt)
This means you would need 480 PSPs
That is 47.52million credits
Lets say we consider gold 82k per match
That is 579.5 gold matches
15min per gold
144hr

So take what part of math you like and figure out what is resonable to you.

That's pretty generous. 

Its not too far off the mark. Average gold should only take at most 22 minutes. 25 if your team is bad and the map is large. What's really generous is the 25% drop rate. If you dig a little further on the forums, the amount of credits you would need is somewhere around the 72million range, not 47.

I played mostly gold for a large portion of my 370 hours, and then plat when that mode was introduced. Still nowhere close to maxxing all my URs. So I passed that 144hr mark a long time ago.

All data in that calculation is off. Bryan couldn't even get the number of URs right. Can't imagine what he wanted with that bogus post in the first place.

Modifié par greghorvath, 31 octobre 2012 - 01:14 .

[UKStory135]

Constant Motion wrote...

120 Ultra-Rares to unlock. 15% chance of an UR in any given Premium Spectre pack makes approximately 800 packs, on PSPs alone.

Each Gold match - keeping in mind most of them will have been played pre-extraction bonus - used to be worth about 76k out of the 99k a PSP costs. So divide 800 by (76000/99000) and 800 packs is around 1,042 Gold matches.

23 minutes, I think is a fair average for a Gold match - taking into account tricky matches and talented players alike. 23/60 is 0.383', 1,042x0.383' is... 400 hours! Well, 399. But almost spot on 400.

To get it that quickly, you'd need to never wipe out, never play lower difficulties - that, or be way under my (admittedly guessed) average time for Gold clearance.

So I'd say anything beneath 400 is suspicious, but plausible for a talented player who can regularly clear Gold in under 20 minutes, and who has a bit of luck on their hands.

Anything beneath 300, I'd say, is very suspicious. It's within the realms of possibility - they might've done a lot of Platinum speed runs - but only just.

My actual gameplay numbers are pretty close to you theoretical ones, and I am 4 away from having a maxed out manifest.  However, I have bought quite a few packs with MS Points.

[X M3TH0D1C4L X]

I am at a little over 500 hours, and I have only the Collector SMG left to max out (currently at IV). I have only purchased one PSP with points, which was left over from previous DLC.

I know a few friends that had their manifest maxed out right around 320 hours (before Retaliation was released). Its all just luck with the RNG, or spending a lot of real $$$ on packs.

[davari]

To much math going on in here.

[SiIencE]

Don't see how, i'm almost at 500 hours and don't even have a Scorpion yet..
I'm getting there but under 300 hours without spending RL cash impossible.
So far i've played over 1700 matches, don't know if those people got more.

[alfaice1]

I must be lucky, I have only put in 150h in MP and i think i have most of the UR
Not maxed out though.

[Dbohr]

That person could have sunk in a lot of real cash into PSPs as well.

[ZombieGambit]

Why does it matter to you anyway? Are these people somehow hurting your experience by playing Gold and Platinum with a Harrier X?

[pigdog3459 is MINE]

WOW

[YachiruChin]

Well.. if the suspicious players DID buy packs with bioware points, then they'll be able to check that before banning them.

[dajohu83]

Well. by the OP's logic I'm definitely a cheater... 264 games played, only 73 1/2 hours but I have all but one rare gun (Collector AR IX) and five rare characters maxed (don't have the Havoc at all yet), have at least level one on every UR except the Volus engineer, Typhoon, and Indra.  Now obviously I didn't cheat but just as obviously I've bought a crapload of BW points and spend actual "hard-earned" money to play this "free mp" game for fun and to support the awesomeness that is Bioware.  So just because people like me who have a little mad money that they can use to support a game company they love doesn't automatically make me (or anyone else) a cheater.  So respectfully, bring on the reporting, I am fully confident that if I was ever reported Bioware would back me up (considering they have to have records of the number of BW points I've bought and spent in the store) and I don't even know how to glitch/cheat in this game and even if I did I wouldn't do it because knowing my luck?  I'd be caught instantly. lol.

http://social.biowar...283&platform=pc

[jab72793]

all I know is I've racked up 186hrs of gameplay, and since the first week when I got my saber it hasn't upgraded once.... it saddens me as I'd trade away guns to get it if I could...

[Auras_Mendalla]

I have this sudden urge to go play Number Munchers...



PS: +1000 if you know what the heck I'm talking about.

[GeneralElectric]

Bryan Johnson wrote...

120 UR to unlock
Let's say the drop rate for UR is 25% in a PSP(it isnt)
This means you would need 480 PSPs
That is 47.52million credits
Lets say we consider gold 82k per match
That is 579.5 gold matches
15min per gold
144hr

So take what part of math you like and figure out what is resonable to you.

Who the heck is doing Gold matches in 15 minutes consistently? Certainly no one who plays PUGs on console. My guess is that few people will have maxed out their ultra rares at 300 hours. I'm nearing that sad benchmark and I'm not even close. I got my first level X ultra rare at 270 hours, and I have 61 more upgrades to go. I'm not a killer player, but I'm no slouch and I play mostly Gold/Platinum matches. I suppose my downfall is that I ONLY play PUGs, which means that match times (and success rates) vary greatly.

Modifié par GeneralElectric, 31 octobre 2012 - 03:18 .

[PinklySmooth]

If people wanna spend hundreds of dollars to get maxed UR weapons and make MY gaming experience easier at the same time, let em. I have no problems being carried.

[Komcpc]

Yay!

A BSN witch-hunt! Does my voicing my opinion on the matter suddenly make me a suspect? lol

[NM_Che56]

It sounds suspicious to me because there's a little bit of a learning curve with MP which will eat into the total playing time. Not steep curve, but not negligible either. That has to eat into the less than 200 hours.


...but if you have a lot of money just sitting around, then you can always dump money in the store! 

Modifié par Master Che, 31 octobre 2012 - 04:01 .

[Caldari Ghost]

Dude, luck is as is.

[upinya slayin]

sclera wrote...

Bryan Johnson wrote...

120 UR to unlock
Let's say the drop rate for UR is 25% in a PSP(it isnt)
This means you would need 480 PSPs
That is 47.52million credits
Lets say we consider gold 82k per match
That is 579.5 gold matches
15min per gold
144hr

So take what part of math you like and figure out what is resonable to you.

That's pretty generous. 

BW loves speed runners

[kingvenom41392]

i have 700 hours and dont have all the urs maxed the rank one one psn for challange points has 800 hours has less urs than me 200 and even 300 hours to max urs is not even a tad realistic i do gold and platinum all day everyday both take about 25 minutes for my groups we have a 99 percent extraction rate ive been playing gold since the best weapon in the game was the black widow and sabotage still worked well i first did gold around level 80 and i dont sit on promotions often didnt at all back then gold took 30 to 40 minutes i refuse to play silver for anything but soloes id say the absolute lowest and luckiest is about 500 to 600 hours if they started recently and not when there were repeat cards

[Shampoohorn]

GeneralElectric wrote...

Bryan Johnson wrote...

120 UR to unlock
Let's say the drop rate for UR is 25% in a PSP(it isnt)
This means you would need 480 PSPs
That is 47.52million credits
Lets say we consider gold 82k per match
That is 579.5 gold matches
15min per gold
144hr

So take what part of math you like and figure out what is resonable to you.

Who the heck is doing Gold matches in 15 minutes consistently? C... snipped

You're missing the point.  Bryan is simply giving you a method to figure out how many hours it would take to max your URs.

Here's my take:
120 UR to unlock
Let's say the drop rate for UR is 12% in a PSP(that's pretty close)
This means you would need 1000 PSPs
That is 99 million credits
Lets say we consider gold 82k per match
That is 1208 perfect gold matches
17min per gold
343hr

[trollfot1]

Almost 450h, mostly gold and platinum games and my highest UR is VII. I don't have much luck out of these packs, I mostly get ammo IV. It's a bit frustrating.

[Jayhau]

This makes me sad. I'm at like 350+ hours and don't have half of the URs.

Petition for a 2-5% increase in drops

Feels like I will have a better chance by maxing my lvl IV consumables, which is why I don't use them.

Shame

[Stinger14s]

No - over 400 hours here and MANY N7 weapons are not even closed to maxed out.

[spart1]

Bryan Johnson wrote...

120 UR to unlock
Let's say the drop rate for UR is 25% in a PSP(it isnt)
This means you would need 480 PSPs
That is 47.52million credits
Lets say we consider gold 82k per match
That is 579.5 gold matches
15min per gold
144hr

So take what part of math you like and figure out what is resonable to you.

The way this worded sounds like there might a different drop rates for different platforms.