Blueprotoss wrote...
silverexile17s wrote...
1. Like I said already, I never denied them. I denied the comparison. Saying the ME3 ending blowup was no more of an uproar then the ME Mako complaint is like compairing the Big Ben to a cuckoo-clock.
What I said was that the complaints about the Mako in ME1, or the inventory system in ME2, were nowhere NEAR as big as the uproar over ME3's endings. I NEVER said they didn't exist.
If you never denied them why did you deny them previously in this topic.
silverexile17s wrote...
2. First off, it was a reference. I didn't bring any PC vs Console debate into this. Would you please stay on topic for one post?
Second, you can't just give people a great game, then give them a Deus Ex ending to it, and NOT expect them to be pissed off about it. Any TRUE fan want's to see the game they care about done justice. LOOK at the responce.
The fact that SO many people got SO passionate about a game that has only had five-six years of life SO quickly is amazing. Not since Star Wars have I seen such a fan base get so engrosed in a sci-fi fantasy gams series. The only other one that matches up is Halo. Halo is the die-hard FPS for sci-fi. And Mass Effect became the Die-hard for RPG's.
I see the hypocrisy here especially when DE didn't create those "endings" while I see that you'll nippick anything that you don't like.
silverexile17s wrote...
The fact that there WAS a responce this big, and THIS passionate, more then disproves your claim. They CARED about this game and how it ended. If you were RIGHT, there would NOT have been any responce at all. Just a murmer of discontent. Only Fans who truly loved this series would get SO up in arms over the conclusion.
I hope you know that game endings have been critcized way before ME3 like what happened in Final Fantasy 7, Half-Life, Deus Ex, Halo 2, Fallout 3, Metal Gear Solid 4, and Rage are a few examples.
silverexile17s wrote...
3. That's just a complaint. True, there will be some bad feelings, but having the Hammerhead in ME2 smoothed that out. The complaint in ME was that the levels were TOO dependent on vehacle sections. The ME2 DLC's streamlined that. Picking those spicific points that your using.... I'm sorry, but...
Well, it's what is commenly refered to as a strawman.:innocent:
And the comment on Omega? It was ment as an example, as, since the DLC is advertised as twice as large as Leviathan, it may NOT imedeatly be on Omega. Besides, the Station IS large enough for sections that could include Vehacle missions. The Mission to Ilos in ME1 was pretty much a corridor for the Mako. THAT seems to match Omega as well. Besides, Cerberus has had time to dig in since Mass Effect: Invasion. I wouldn't be surprised if there were anti-vehicle turrets on every block. I mean, where do you think Cerberus got that Giant army of theirs so quickly?
The streamlining of ME2 happened with the gameplay not the DLC. Its ironic that you're saying that I'm using a strawman even when I'm not because small uproars aren't anything new in video games and ME has seen them since ME1 was launched.
silverexile17s wrote...
They've most likely been "recruting" from Omega's captive human popultion. Something that is most likely the SOURCE of Cerberus' army is going to be heavaly defended. That's seems a good point to put in a vehicle level.
And don't talk about being petty. That's all you have done to everyone here.
To allow vehicle combat in Omega then you would have to redesign Omega .
silverexile17s wrote...
And you didn't give me a direct answer to that question.
Yet it was answered.
1. That's my point. YOU said I did. I DIDN'T
2. Actually, we've gone over this before. Deus Ex is what those endings are famous for. Why do you think everyone instantly said Deus Ex? Because THAT'S what everyone remembers them from.
3. Rage was criticiced in general for failing to live up to the hype. Halo 2 was known to get a continuation after that, since all good games seem to come in threes. EVERYONE knew that Final Fantasy would have moe entries in it. Deus Ex endings FIT Deus Ex. Fallout 3 DID the right thing and took all the fan feedback and made an ending that they WANTED. An actuall, NEW ending. Metal Gear Solid 4... come on, we knew no one would want that to end. Half-Life, I admitedly haven't played, so I'll defer to the opinion of the OTHERS on this form. And I NEVER saw any SPICIFIC ending THIS raged over. As YOU yourself would say if *I* had posted that list of games:
"that's a strawman.":innocent:
4. I'm pretty sure there weren't protests like that, that rased massive amounts of money, for the sake of a invantory system, or some tweaks on the Mako. Those are small complaints. ME3's ening debate was an uproar. I never saw BBC do a news article on "ME fans demand Mako ajustments." If you did, please show it to me now. Streamlined Vehicle modes were in the DLC.
And MY use of it is no different then yours. I just make sure to UNDERSATND it before I use it, where you seem to use it because it makes you look like you KNOW what your talking about, since NO one here seems to agree with your definition of it.
5.We hardly SAW much of Omega aside from the Afterlife hub, the bridge Archangels' base was at, and the plauge zone. That's NOT MUCH of the overall stations' size.
6. Really. What was the answer that EVERYONE appears to have missed? Post it now, or qoute it. I'd like to see it, as would everyone else.
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