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[rekn2]

ld1449 wrote...

Can we just call him an imbecile and be done with it?

is there an ignore feature on the forum?

[ld1449]

rekn2 wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Can we just call him an imbecile and be done with it?

is there an ignore feature on the forum?

Petition one:lol:

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

rekn2 wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Can we just call him an imbecile and be done with it?

is there an ignore feature on the forum?

Chris Priestly says that they're working on one. I asked.

[GreyLycanTrope]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

rekn2 wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Can we just call him an imbecile and be done with it?

is there an ignore feature on the forum?

Chris Priestly says that they're working on one. I asked.

I'm going to be ignored soo hard

[liggy002]

Twinzam.V wrote...

I've already played the mod and is very good. But the thing is, with ME3 the game is finished (it was done everything it was suposed to be in the game).
It wasnt rushed (forced) out the door to be sold on Christmas.
It doesnt have leftover files from the devs, so that someone can piece everything together.
So i doubt something like that will happen to ME3.

That's not a Shepard wakes up IT mod is it? 

[liggy002]

Yate wrote...

look, BIOWARE won with the EC, give the ending a break and LET THEM focus on making the REST of the game worse!

Fixed that for you.

Modifié par liggy002, 31 octobre 2012 - 11:28 .

[Iakus]

mrufka_z wrote...

iakus wrote...

Liara could be dead, based on certain playthroughs.

Please, tell me which ones? I've been trying to get rid of her since ME1.

WIth a low EMS, the squadmates you take with to on the beam rush are killed.  Also, with an EMS below 1750 no one survives teh Normandy crash

[silverexile17s]

Blueprotoss wrote...

silverexile17s wrote...

1. Funny. That's what everyone I talk to thinks of you. LOOK at that post. You countered your own arguement in one sentance.

Its bad to use everyone especially when everyone doesn't agree with you, which cause a contradiction to appear.

silverexile17s wrote...

2. NO, IT ISN'T. There IS no default LI. It just assumes that you were NEVER in a relationship. Get the facts right!

Yet the default choice for a LI in ME2 and ME3 is normally Liara.

silverexile17s wrote... 

3.Um.. You do realize that ME4 ISN'T in production. It's just planned. They are still occupied with making DA3 and continuing the ME3 DLC.  There is still the possibilaty that it will end up canceled. And even if not, it won't be able to recapture the love people had for the series before ME3 came out. I'm sorry, but at this point, with all the bad blood cultivated by the ending fiasco, another full game will do nothing at this point to restore the game's momentum. It's basically waiting for the Time Of Death to be called.

If ME4 was only planned then it wouldn't be in pre-production.

1.I have seen NO ONE agree with you. You have bickered with them every step of the way.

2. There IS no default LI. It assumes you don't HAVE one, if it's a blank import.

3.  It ISN'T. It's only ANNOUNCED that it's PLANNED. It's not in pre-production yet. They have DA3, More content for Star Wars: TOR, and DLC for ME3. They can't yet work on it. Just early planning stage at this point.

[silverexile17s]

Blueprotoss wrote...

silverexile17s wrote...

1. That's my point. YOU said I did. I DIDN'T

i see that you still can't handle the truth.

silverexile17s wrote...

2. Actually, we've gone over this before. Deus Ex is what those endings are famous for. Why do you think everyone instantly said Deus Ex? Because THAT'S what everyone remembers them from.

Yet that isn't true because Deus Ex wasn't well known before ME3 because it was a PC only franchise until Human Revolution.

silverexile17s wrote...

3. Rage was criticiced in general for failing to live up to the hype. Halo 2 was known to get a continuation after that, since all good games seem to come in threes. EVERYONE knew that Final Fantasy would have moe entries in it. Deus Ex endings FIT Deus Ex. Fallout 3 DID the right thing and took all the fan feedback and made an ending that they WANTED. An actuall, NEW ending. Metal Gear Solid 4... come on, we knew no one would want that to end. Half-Life, I admitedly haven't played, so I'll defer to the opinion of the OTHERS on this form. And I NEVER saw any SPICIFIC  ending THIS raged over. As YOU yourself would say if *I* had posted that list of games:
"that's a strawman.":innocent:

Clearly you didn't listen to what some people said with Rage because it ended at a random moment like Halo 2's "I"m gonna finish the fight".  Brotherhood of Steel wasn't a new ending but it did allow free roam after the completion of the ending with it.  Either way you did use a strawman.

silverexile17s wrote...

4. I'm pretty sure there weren't protests like that, that rased massive amounts of money, for the sake of a invantory system, or some tweaks on the Mako. Those are small complaints. ME3's ening debate was an uproar. I never saw BBC do a news article on "ME fans demand Mako ajustments." If you did, please show it to me now. Streamlined Vehicle modes were in the DLC.
And MY use of it is no different then yours. I just make sure to UNDERSATND it before I use it, where you seem to use it because it makes you look like you KNOW what your talking about, since NO one here seems to agree with your definition of it.

ME3's small uproar had the immaturity of the Internet and contraversy isn't anything new with the media.  Btw a bigger upoar would be with Adven Rising or L4D2.

silverexile17s wrote...

5.We hardly SAW much of Omega aside from the Afterlife hub, the bridge Archangels' base was at, and the plauge zone. That's NOT MUCH of the overall stations' size.

Actually there was a lot of Omega shown in ME2 especially when you did the Archangel mission along with Mordin's mission.

1. Go back and look at those posts. YOU are the one who is making accusations and mirroring the blame back at others. You should know this process.
It's called a "Red Herring." Remember?

2. Deus Ex: Human Revolution has similar trates in the endings.
Darrow's rejection of augmentation mirrors the Destroy the hub ending in Deus Ex, and the Destroy option in ME3.
Taggert's control option mirrors the Control the Illumanati option in Deus Ex, and the Control option in ME3.
Sarif's merging of man and machine into new life mirrors the Merge with Helios option in Deus Ex, and the Synthesis option in ME3.
AND, Deus Ex: Human Revoultion had the option to refuse all the others and trust the next generation. And what is there in the ME3 EC?
An Option to refuse the others and let the next generation decide.
Old or New, originator or not, these endings are now squarely a trademark of the Deus Ex franchise.

3... You NEVER mentioned Brotherhood of Steel. Just Fallout. Unless you misread the post that mentioned Fallout 3's ending DLC "BROKEN STEEL." As for Rage, the entire game felt like you had no clue what was truly going on. Yes, the ending was an unexpected cliffhanger, to say the least, but NOTHING really fell into place for that game.
And I meant that YOUR use of that game list was the strawman.
I was saying that had *I* had the "gall" (scarcasm) to use a list like that in that exact mannor as you did, you would say it's a strawman.

4...I think THOSE are considered strawmen too.
Left 4 dead 2 was near insualting to release a game that quickly following the first one. Some damn heads up one "We'll still support the first game" would have been nice.
And "Advent Rising" did quite well. So it was a surprise that the game didn't get a sequel after a planned series was announced. But then, that just means that planned games fall through, don't they? (Hint: ME4)
Now, to keep ON SUBJECT, the vid showing ME fans protesting for a Mako patch? You have it?
No?
ME3's ending uproar is the biggest fan contraversy in a long time. There have been others. But this is one of the ones that succeded in getting a bit of actual CLOSURE. We STILL don't have a truly good, fitting ending, but at least what we have makes a bit of actual SENSE now.

5. Those are just PARTS of larger districts. Barely TEN percent of Omega. There are several districts, and we saw fractions of just three. There are loading docks, and mining shafts where Eezo is/was mined out. The station is 44.7 KM. That's BIG. And with mining shafts and elevators, and tramways to transport these goods and Eezo, Omega is quite large.

[silverexile17s]

Blueprotoss wrote...

iakus wrote...

First developers have outright said that no ending is canon.  Given that it can end with anything from Earth getting fried and the relay network exploding to a green shiny happy people ending where everyone lives in a synthetic paradise and the Reapers are all nice and friendly, this is to be expected.

To be fair if no canon was established then ME wouldn't have an expanded universe.

iakus wrote...

Second,I wasn't talking about canon through the series, only for the conclusion to ME3.  ME1 imported into ME2.  ME2 imported into ME3, which concluded the stroy.  The series is over.  What happened in ME1 and ME2 was (suppsoedly) important fro ME3, but now that story is over.

Thats okay but a canon ending will eventually be established when ME4 has an outline.

iakus wrote...
 
FInally, asking fro DLC like this is only asking to add our own spin to the endings.  We're supposed to do that anyway, it seems.  All this does is put what's in our heads onto the screens

But you forget that DLC like that would be a nightmare to create based on those 65,000+ plotlines and like anything else some people won't pleased that will act its the end of the world.

1. Those are background things. Haven't you noticed that NOTHING, including gender, is ever gone into depth. Near ALL the lore we've seen has been pre-ME1, or has keept it as general as possible, NEVER naming names or dates. The ONLY things that are true cannon are: Shepard stopped Saren at the Citadel, and Shepard brought down the Collector Base. NOTHING else is EVER confirmed or denied regarding Shepard. ANY and ALL pieces of the lore are done on the squad-mates, and nothing Spicific is EVER stated. The EU of Mass Effect works AROUND the cannon, so as not to infulence the game for people.

2. You ASSUME that ME4 is indeed "ME4," and not a spin-off like ME: Infiltrator was, or a prequel. Also, I remember that scene with the Stargazer saying "The details are lost to time, It happened so long ago."
Meaning that it would probably be far into the future, where hardly ANYTHING is remembered in detail, leaving the fate of Shepard ambiguous. They learned the HARD way what happens when you cannonize a character too much, like (example) with Revan from KotOR.

3. Their doing Omega, aren't they? and Look at Leviathen? I don't think there is going to be a game to IMPORT to from here, as they will try to start fresh, after the sour note the trilogy ended on. And if they're doing more DLC anyway, which is confirmed, Why not do this?

[silverexile17s]

ld1449 wrote...

Can we just call him an imbecile and be done with it?

God, I wish it was that easy. But once a croc bites something, he never lets it go.
People are starting to think he's a form gorilla on BioWare's payroll, courtisy of EA.

[silverexile17s]

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Can we just call him an imbecile and be done with it?

He always derails threads, it's a talent. Might as well have fun with it.

To be fair, every time a debate stems long enough it is no longer on topic.
I'm certain 99% of the ones I committed to ended offtopic completely.

Indeed. I don't think he even CARES anymore about the topic. It's just about him proving a point to himself, now.

[The Spamming Troll]

liggy002 wrote...

That sounds cool and I really do enjoy this post. When is someone with millions of dollars going to make an IT DLC? Unfortunately, I don't have that kind of money yet but rest assured that when I do it will be done.

ive had wandering thoughts of winning the lottery and getting together with friends and more specifically as many people on this site as i could. i dont know if its just cuz its mass effect talk, but theres so many ideas i like reading about on this forums. sci fi, games, alien ******....its perfect.id like to get everyone together and meet with a development team and make a game for us. i dont care how long it takes to get it down.

id even want blueprotos there, even dreman9999. well probably have alot of snak food to throw at them when they come up with hogwash ideas.

i think itd be worth it.

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 01 novembre 2012 - 02:36 .

[silverexile17s]

Blueprotoss wrote...

silverexile17s wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

I don't care for the reference and its not surprising that your comment is hypocritical.

Then how does your arguement have merit if you don't care, or acknolodge the reference? THAT'S hypocritical.

Clearly you're not interested in the topic.

silverexile17s wrote...

1. Did I say that? No. I never said it never happened. I said that the Mako thing was a complaint. The ME3 ending responce was an uproar. I'm sure that had the inventory system been revamped in ME3, that would have been just TERRIBLE. It would have been the END of EA!!
THAT is scarcasm.

Yet you previously said that no small uproars appeared in the ME series before ME3, which means the trouble with the Mako alone proves you wrong.

silverexile17s wrote...

2. You are the one insulting yourself. You contridict every statment you make, saying fact is on your side when you discredit every modern sorce of factual information, from Dictionaries to wikis. You claimed that the information inDictionaries is just subjective. When you say things like that, of COURSE no one is going to treat anything you say with real merit.

How am I insulting myself when I'm just letting you're credability disappear with the insults that you keep on throwing out for no real reason.

silverexile17s wrote...

You insult everyone by saying that every word besides your own is nothing more then their personal, fan-invented opinion, accusing them of using strawmen, red herrings, and in some cases, outright lies. You NEVER answer any of these questions when they are directed to you, instead deflecting them with reverse logic, or assaulting and debating the logic behind the opposing question. You NEVER straight-up answer any question asked to you. Doing all this, condesending everyone while accusing them bo being condesending, is insulting in itself.
You even went as far as to say that no one cares if someone in the ME squads dies, because of it being your choice, when not caring about the characters runs counter to one of the very core reasons that people play the game: For the SAKE of those character attachments. Saying that is insulting to the game itself.

Its odd that you're still not interested in the facts unless if the facts agree with your opinion, which that hasn't appeared yet.  Btw if someone is being "condescending" then it would be you based on how you're the one thats insulting people here.

1.YOU are the one who just said you didn't care for the refernce, therfore implying you do not care about the topic.

2. I never said they did not exist. I said that comparing the ME3 ending fiasco as no more intense then those was like comparing the London clock tower of Big Ben with a bedroom cukoo clock. What I said was that none of these uproars were as IMMENCE as the one over the endings of ME3.

3. How is that when you tried to discredit DICTIONARIES? Calling them a subjective source of information?
 Your ADDING to the creditabilaty of EVERYONE you post against.  Or did you miss the posts here saying that NO ONE takes stock in what you say? There is a REASON for that, you know. Ask around. See what they think about whose creditabilaty is better.

4. Have you ever put up any fact that supports ANY of your claims? YOU have always used strawmen and red herrings while accusing everyone ELSE of doing it. That's called being insulting. And it's all you ever HAVE done on the BSN. Look at the posts. It's not just concidence that everyone seems to DISAGREE with you on about EVERY post you ever put up. And come to think of it, I don't think you EVER put up a stand-alone post. Every one of your posts has been qouting on someone and doing everything to discredit them while tripping over yourself and contridicting your own arguements, until it becomes about nothing other then being the one that rules the sandbox. I mean, haven't you noticed that NO ONE here seems to support your posts? You have your OPINIONS. But what pisses people off is constantly trying to FORCE those opinions on others claiming they are fact, while saying that all modern sources of factual information, from Dictionaries to wikis, are subjective information. If that's true, then WHERE are you getting YOUR "facts." And Don't say Litiature, since Dictionaries count in that catagory. And doing that while constantly accusing THEM that everything they post is nothing more then personal, fan-made opinion is the definition of insulting. It's calling them liers in all but name.
Dryfish said that having a debate with you is near-impossible. Everyone on the BSN seems to dread your arrival on a page. There is a REASON for that. It isn't possible that they ALL are just wrong, or using opinion.
Think about that.

[Ironhandjustice]

Argolas wrote...

This thread will surpass its creator. It is inevitable.

Without mod intervetion, BSN is doomed.

It's a poor creation the one that not surpass its creator

MODS FOR THE MODS GOD! CUSTOMS FOR THE CUSTOMS THRONE! LET THE BSN BUUUUUURN!!!!

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

andy69156915 wrote...

You're right, it won't end. This fanbase is far too petty and pathetic. The cycle of whining and complaining will never die, not as long as the fanbase keeps acting like a 13 year old girl going through her first ever breakup... And let's face it, the fanbase WILL keep acting like that.

This isn't anything like a break up.
Bioware stole our shoes.

lol, nice vid.

[Ironhandjustice]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

andy69156915 wrote...

You're right, it won't end. This fanbase is far too petty and pathetic. The cycle of whining and complaining will never die, not as long as the fanbase keeps acting like a 13 year old girl going through her first ever breakup... And let's face it, the fanbase WILL keep acting like that.

This isn't anything like a break up.
Bioware stole our shoes.

lol, nice vid.

Its a video? Where?

[Necrotron]

Greylycantrope wrote...

I actually downloaded that mod OP. Haven't had actual time to go back and try it out yet sadly.

Yate wrote...

look, you guys won with the EC, give the ending a break and focus on making the REST of the game better!

The EC adds emotion closure, that was one problem of many. It's not done.

Unfortunetly, it didn't solve logical flaws, but alas, that seems to be enough for many.

[EnvyTB075]

Yate wrote...

look, you guys won with the EC, give the ending a break and focus on making the REST of the game better!

Just how shallow do you think we are?

Ironhandjustice wrote...

Its a video? Where?

One of Archengias critiques and his analogy as to the BioWare/fan relationship.

Go watch all his vids, hes a champ.

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 01 novembre 2012 - 10:51 .

[Ironhandjustice]

Bathaius wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

I actually downloaded that mod OP. Haven't had actual time to go back and try it out yet sadly.

Yate wrote...

look, you guys won with the EC, give the ending a break and focus on making the REST of the game better!

The EC adds emotion closure, that was one problem of many. It's not done.

Unfortunetly, it didn't solve logical flaws, but alas, that seems to be enough for many.

When you can have a cent, instead of nothing, sometimes you take the cent. Even whe you originally wanted a million.

Is better than nothing.

[Ironhandjustice]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Yate wrote...

look, you guys won with the EC, give the ending a break and focus on making the REST of the game better!

Just how shallow do you think we are?

Ironhandjustice wrote...

Its a video? Where?

One of Archengias critiques and his analogy as to the BioWare/fan relationship.

Go watch all his vids, hes a champ.

Noted. Thanks!

[Iakus]

Bathaius wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

I actually downloaded that mod OP. Haven't had actual time to go back and try it out yet sadly.

Yate wrote...

look, you guys won with the EC, give the ending a break and focus on making the REST of the game better!

The EC adds emotion closure, that was one problem of many. It's not done.

Unfortunetly, it didn't solve logical flaws, but alas, that seems to be enough for many.

Not to mention it doesn't provide closure for Destroy+  It's just as rife with "implications" and "speculation"as it was pre EC

[Ironhandjustice]

iakus wrote...

Bathaius wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

I actually downloaded that mod OP. Haven't had actual time to go back and try it out yet sadly.

Yate wrote...

look, you guys won with the EC, give the ending a break and focus on making the REST of the game better!

The EC adds emotion closure, that was one problem of many. It's not done.

Unfortunetly, it didn't solve logical flaws, but alas, that seems to be enough for many.

Not to mention it doesn't provide closure for Destroy+  It's just as rife with "implications" and "speculation"as it was pre EC

I suppose is not difficult to make a closure scene like DA: origins one.

Will they do with the puzzle theory or IT? Even with something else?

If not, there will be mineable data in order to do the same done with the KOTOR II?

Who knows.

[Nightwriter]

I don't get it. Are you saying there is unused content on the disc that will restore the game to full epicness the way it did for KotOR II?