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[ZoM_Head]

BalisticCarnage wrote...

 3 banners require skill.

Dog of war
lone wolf 
and mass effect (all 25 challenges)

The rest are just time consuming.

Please, if Plat was a must for LW banner, it would not be so common as it is now.

Good for you, going solo in a co op game, that sure is skill (whatever, i think low of the LWers).

[enigmamarine]

neverhadspam wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

Oh look this elite thread again... *yawn*

[P51Mus7ang]

At first I thought it did, I haven't tried a solo gold yet, it's on the list but not my current focus.

I've seen it in random PUG's and thought, this is going to be a smooth game.....many were however many were not, so I thought to myself how did they get that banner playing like that.

Is it the hardest, no I don't think so and it should be a great reflection of skill.

Last night I was looking at the Leaderboard as I was curious what the top 5 were doing or objectives completed.....was a bit surprised at my observation.

One case a player completed most bronze and silver maps however for gold and Plat it was just one map and no it wasn't Rio....makes me wonder what's up with that....then I noticed many of the Lone Wolf players have done the same map to the point it is generally at the max.

In any event many of the challanges require skill, some far more than others.

Modifié par P51Mus7ang, 31 octobre 2012 - 01:48 .

[Happy Shepard]

metaempiricist wrote...

people missile glitch to get it so I have no respect for this banner

But wow is this topic full of butthurt.

[Eurhetemec]

isocyanide wrote...

A lot of getting LW is luck with objectives. Some objectives are damn near impossible solo.

I did my two golds for my LW on London vs Cerb with the TGI while leveling up my AR challenges. It was actually fun and learned a great deal about some of guns, the map and game in general.

This. It makes a huge difference. You certainly can't complete LW is you are completely incompetent, indeed, or have completely crap weapons, I suspect, but whatever you using, the wave objectives make a giantic difference. I find "get 4 objects" is usually easiest myself, because even if the object is swamped, you have time to lure the enemies away from it and run around the map to it. Carry two objects can be hilariously easy or very hard, depending on the positioning. Hacking depends largely on the map and if there is a fairly safe place to stand whilst hacking. Drones it depends entirely where the drone spawns and where it's going, though again, you can pull enemies away from the path then run back to the drone, and the drones move so fast that it may be doable.

Modifié par Eurhetemec, 31 octobre 2012 - 01:57 .

[kww75]

BalisticCarnage wrote...

 3 banners require skill.

Dog of war
lone wolf 
and mass effect (all 25 challenges)

The rest are just time consuming.

None of the Banners including the three you mentioned require skill as per say.

Lone wolf I have and it is not actually shooting skill and I take offense at anyone even suggesting I or other lone wolves glitched it. Many have done it legitimately. I did it by watchinng youtube videos of legitimate attempts and then immitating those players. That is a different skill set to what I would attribute skill to a player in ME3

Lone wolf requires a lot of situational awareness, so you could say that as a skill... but there are many other things within ME that can be called skill

- High headshot percentage over shots fired is a skill
- Dodging Missiles is a skill, shooting them is an even higher skill with a non-rapid fire weapon.
- Knowing to Grab is a skill.
- Knowing NOT to shoot a biotic/tech/fire or Cryo Setup if you don't have the ammo to set it off is a SKILL
- Setting off other team players setups with your abilities is a skill as it requires communication or anticipation.
- Kill streaking without the use of grenades and/or Cobras is a skill, (One I have very rarely seen maybe only twice)

[Mariachi 43]

Dog of war requires some skill. Head shots aren't always the easiest to pull off and you need 1k of those. Plus grabs can be a tad tricky with no more of the old school white farming.

[hezekiah957]

ZoM_Head wrote...

BalisticCarnage wrote...

 3 banners require skill.

Dog of war
lone wolf 
and mass effect (all 25 challenges)

The rest are just time consuming.

Please, if Plat was a must for LW banner, it would not be so common as it is now.

Good for you, going solo in a co op game, that sure is skill (whatever, i think low of the LWers).

Wait, really? If you make something harder, fewer people will have it?

[cronshaw]

Himmelhauk wrote...

So basically what I'm getting from these kinds of threads, is NONE of the banners require skill, and regardless of which one you have, you'll just be seen as an average joe type of player. Great.

If someone has unlocked nomad already that means they have probably played a lot of platnium, since you get credit for all the subordinate challanges. So if I complete 10 platnium matches I get credit for bronze, silver and gold on that map too. If you play long enough you will unlock nomad. But if a player has it now they are probably pretty good. Eventually the banners will be meaningless for the most part. But right now some of them are kinda meaningful because of the time element. 

[UKStory135]

ITT: Badasses. FWIW, OP is an excellent player and good teammate.

[unclemonster]

SlayerGP wrote...

I'm guessing it's another LW thread with the usual sorts of comments that facilitate epeen wagging:
- Doesn't require skill, anyone can do it using Kroguard vs. Geth
- Anyone can run around a map and eventually get it
- Would only be meaningful if you had to solo Platinum
- LWs are selfish players
- If I see a LW in a lobby then I run
- The reason I don't have one is cos it's too boring to solo (lolz)

Anyway if it's easy then get it. "Too boring" is not an excuse, I found it boring too but it forced me to understand the mechanics of the game better. And because of that, 90% of the time I can carry a Gold wave if everybody dies, regardless of character build or loadout.

Exactly, I am a much better player after soloing gold. Yes I used the TGI.
Last night I was in wave 8 platinum solo (my 1st attempt ever), I still had most of my consumables except 1 medi-gel,1 missile, and 1 weapons pack. Unfortunately, I was joined by a friend (using an invite from the previous day) and my solo was ruined!!! Not only that, he went down several times within minutes and I was instakilled by a Banshee immediately after healing him! NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
There needs to be a way to lock the game for solo attempts so others can't join. I am on PS3.

[Moxy_Pirate]

The banners are a way to add fun to the game. The challenge points coupled with N7 rating give you a pretty good Idea of that persons experience. Those of you constantly trying to prove either that you are "skilled/special" at this game or trying to explain that you are not a "scrub/noob" because of some banners need to get a life.

[Himmelhauk]

Moxy_Pirate wrote...

The banners are a way to add fun to the game. The challenge points coupled with N7 rating give you a pretty good Idea of that persons experience. Those of you constantly trying to prove either that you are "skilled/special" at this game or trying to explain that you are not a "scrub/noob" because of some banners need to get a life.

Precisely. It's fun, and sure people are competitive but sheesh. The banners are just cool, and it represents your style. I have the mathemagician one, because I prefer tech characters and that omni tool looks sweet  

[capn233]

I feel like this topic has come up over and over again.

But the answer is yes, it is basically the one that requires the most skill at the game, whatever that is.

Every single other one will just happen given enough play time and with any variety of class and weapon use. May take a long time, but you will get them. You aren't going to accidentally solo a gold game like you might happen to accidentally get a headshot.

As for "most people glitched or cheated to beat platinum," what is your source? Maybe some did. I dunno, maybe everyone but me did, I didn't watch anyone else complete this one. And now for the snob comment: if you don't have Lone Wolf but are complaining about it, then consider keeping the comments to yourself. If you have it legitimately and want to vent, go ahead, even if it is pointless.

[kr3g]

Well, yes.
All other just pretty much "play the game N hours"

[Yajuu Omoi]

Xaijin wrote...

The only skill is ME is situational awareness.

This.

Everything else is simply understandting the mechanics of the game.
I have the banner, and I am NOT the best player. (By FAR) I just understand the mechanics of the game.

[Yajuu Omoi]

N7-Link wrote...

the lone wolf banner it's underestimated

most of people thinks get this banner using a kroguard vs geth on 2 gold rounds

but must be a mandatory complete the full challenge for get this banner

10 bronze

5 silver

2 gold

1 platinum

That would be a true Lone Wolf

Actually...even if a Plat solo would be required, you'd only have to do:
1 Platinum
1 Gold
3 Silver
5 Bronze

As it stands, the only difference is the 1 Platinum instead of 2 Gold...

[Stabby Badger]

If you were going to listen to people on the internet, nothing in any game has ever required any skill ever and no one is any better at any game than anyone else.

We're all just skilless noobs.  Except you, yes you reading this.  You personally are the only person with any skill in any game, everyone else who does something you can't is just a no life loser willing to spend precious minutes doing said skilless activity in said skilless video game while you are busy banging foxy ladies.  But obviously you could do it if you wanted, you just decided not to.

[upinya slayin]

megabeast37215 wrote...

joker_jack wrote...

With a solo platinum, most have used the map glitches on hydra and dagger. That right there taints the banner more than kroguarg vs geth.

A friend of mine soloed Platinum with a Turian Ghost on Rio... sitting inside the damn boxes spamming stim packs. Said it took him 2 hours.

Lone Wolf Banner means poo

lol that is too funny

[NM_Che56]

neverhadspam wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

The only skill is ME is situational awareness.

banners just mean grinds and dedication. has nothing to do with skill.

I think headshots require skill. *shrugs*

[Zero132132]

Stabby Badger wrote...

If you were going to listen to people on the internet, nothing in any game has ever required any skill ever and no one is any better at any game than anyone else.

We're all just skilless noobs.  Except you, yes you reading this.  You personally are the only person with any skill in any game, everyone else who does something you can't is just a no life loser willing to spend precious minutes doing said skilless activity in said skilless video game while you are busy banging foxy ladies.  But obviously you could do it if you wanted, you just decided not to.

Thank you for your compliments. I hope that my future actions can match the confidence you have in me. You're also awesome, and I hope your day is wonderful.

[Shepard VI]

Mass Effect banner takes skill.

Completing ALL of the challenges. Yes, it's time consuming, but it also takes skill to be capable of using all those characters, all those weapons, against all factions. On 40 maps. (Or 100 gold waves of every map.)

Modifié par IndoctrinatedSpectre, 31 octobre 2012 - 03:33 .

[Yajuu Omoi]

metaempiricist wrote...

people missile glitch to get it so I have no respect for this banner

You DO know that glitch is Lag dependant and therefore CANNOT be done by the Host?

I'm not disreguarding your lack of respect, I agree, the banner itself is just another epeen prize, but to say people glitch to get it...is wrong.

[palmof40sorrows]

CaballoGallo wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

I call BS. Kroguarding vs Geth... takes little to no skill. That's how most people got it... so the banner will forever be tainted in that regard.

Yet, so many people struggle kroguarding v geth. You're point, if it even is one, is wrong.

Agreed. It might be the EASIEST way to do it, but people can still manage to f it up. Especially with the new bombers and Prime drone upgrade. It takes some modicum of skill. I think part of the problem is that they see the high shields and health, and that he comes with an ability that refills the shields, and think they can charge into any mob of enemies they wish and survive. That isn't true, and they find that out the hard way and give up.