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Is Lone Wolf the Only Banner That Really Requires Skill?


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#176
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ZoM_Head wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

I call BS. Kroguarding vs Geth... takes little to no skill. That's how most people got it... so the banner will forever be tainted in that regard.


This

Or Asaris with Stasis bubble and black widow.

Seriously, it will be the ONLY banner i will not even bother for, and i have 21/25 done already.


>Implying an Asari Adept/Vanguard with a heavy sniper rifle is a good setup

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Personally I think it takes some measure of skill to get the banners. It just helps reassure me the person is serious about playing the game. I've noticed much easier games with people with high N7 ranking, banners, etc.

But I'm not an elitist. I wont boot anyone usually. Last night a Pally showed up in our lobby with a terrible Disciple. But did I boot him? No. At least not until he dared to put an X on the Host which had a banner plus excellent loadout. After that, we told him to basically get lost and vote kicked him

Modifié par sandboxgod, 31 octobre 2012 - 03:49 .


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Yawn. It's a freaking banner for a video game. WTF is the grand prize if we are more "skilled" than another person at a video game? I know it's tough but try to have fun at the damn game and quit making it into a pissing contest.

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Actually for a good player that can solo it takes more skill to play within a team frame work of people who are not as good than it is to solo. I've seen some very good players that think they are carrying a team when in fact they are simply playing a multiplayer match as if they were solo.

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None of the banners really take any skill, only time. The lonewolf banner however doesn't take much time at all and thats why people think its the easiest.

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Ashen Earth wrote...

>Implying an Asari Adept/Vanguard with a heavy sniper rifle is a good setup

It is clearly the hot setup for soloing gold+...

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Gold is hard by myself. I think you have to have a clue to get Lone Wolf. I could eventually get it, but I bet I'd have a lot more failures to extract than successful extractions.

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hezekiah957 wrote...

ZoM_Head wrote...

BalisticCarnage wrote...

 3 banners require skill.

Dog of war
lone wolf 
and mass effect (all 25 challenges)

The rest are just time consuming.


Please, if Plat was a must for LW banner, it would not be so common as it is now.

Good for you, going solo in a co op game, that sure is skill (whatever, i think low of the LWers).




Wait, really? If you make something harder, fewer people will have it?


Please, the next day that the challenges system was release, i met literally dozens of lone wolfers on PC.

If it is so hard and requires so much skill, why was it the first to be unlocked and so wideley used? yet other banners, such as hardcore and outsider are a pain (drell's health is pathetic if you ask me) and so much more time consuming.

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Glacier vs Geth with Harrier-equipped Turian Ghost specced for Chain Overload - it's raining points.

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I only have the Lonewolf banner so far. I'm not really sure that it requires skill, so much as it does patience to be honest.

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Ashen Earth wrote...

ZoM_Head wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

I call BS. Kroguarding vs Geth... takes little to no skill. That's how most people got it... so the banner will forever be tainted in that regard.


This

Or Asaris with Stasis bubble and black widow.

Seriously, it will be the ONLY banner i will not even bother for, and i have 21/25 done already.


>Implying an Asari Adept/Vanguard with a heavy sniper rifle is a good setup


For a solo player sure, but i am anti solo, hence why i play a CO-OP game (magic word).

Would LOVE to see such a set-up being used in on Platinum.

Seriously, if anything, Bioware should remove all lone wolf banners and make two Plat matches required, since you are ditching 3 friends and the whole point of a co-op game.

No more krogan Vanguards against geth, or silly asaris bubbling and sniping, good luck with locking down bosses.

Whatever, seriously, i am anti lone wolf/solo/speed run kind fo guy. Get in there with friends and enjoy the CO-OP game and give the enemy hell.

Modifié par ZoM_Head, 31 octobre 2012 - 04:17 .


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ZoM_Head wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

ZoM_Head wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

I call BS. Kroguarding vs Geth... takes little to no skill. That's how most people got it... so the banner will forever be tainted in that regard.


This

Or Asaris with Stasis bubble and black widow.

Seriously, it will be the ONLY banner i will not even bother for, and i have 21/25 done already.


>Implying an Asari Adept/Vanguard with a heavy sniper rifle is a good setup


For a solo player sure, but i am anti solo, hence why i play a CO-OP game (magic word).

Would LOVE to see such a set-up being used in on Platinum.

Seriously, if anything, Bioware should remove all lone wolf banners and make two Plat matches required, since you are ditching 3 friends and the whole point of a co-op game.

No more krogan Vanguards against geth, or silly asaris bubbling and sniping, good luck with locking down bosses.

Whatever, seriously, i am anti lone wolf/solo/speed run kind fo guy. Get in there with friends and enjoy the CO-OP game and give the enemy hell.


I can appreciate both actually. I usually opt for a co-op game to sit back and relax myself. The whole point of a video game is to have fun I think most people in this age of grindy mmo titles and needlessly hyper-competitive communities have forgotten that. 

In defense of soloruns, they make for great practice as well as a great change of pace from the norm every now and then. Before I jump into a gold match I'll have a couple of solo warm up matches to either test a load out, or simply warm back up to the game after having been away.

I am of the mind that to be a supportive pillar for a team you must first be able to support yourself. I need to have that reassurance myself. Not everyone who solos is a self-centered glory hound as people seem to think. It's simply exploring a new level of challenge. Does that means everyone should do soloruns or that people that don't do them are somehow inferior? No. Not at all. Not everything is for everybody.

I think we solo-enthusiasts have a bad rep. And I'm not really sure why, I've never found a correlation between lonewolf and bad team player other than the title itself.

Edit: May not reply to this >.> I have a headache, and think imma lay down soon, just a heads up.

Modifié par Rudest, 31 octobre 2012 - 04:32 .


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The only banner that matters is the Mass Effect banner (all 25).

Modifié par Immortal Strife, 31 octobre 2012 - 04:36 .


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This Banner does require some lv of skill, even if you're doing it with a krogard vs. geth.
1st off you have to spec right and use the right guns and gear, to most of us this is kind of a no brainer. How ever considering the sheer number of moronic krogaurds I see even on silver that get killed on wave 3....begs to differ.
Same thing with the Ghost. see way too many of them sporting a sniper with that kit.... and don't last past wave 3 on gold with a full group. (Not that using a sniper on him is purely bad, it's just not optimal in my opinion, But I can see it if you have crappy ARs at your disposal and better snipers.)

All and all, even if you did a kroguard vs geth it's legit.
But I know I got mine with a ghost 1st time and shadow the 2nd.

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ZoM_Head wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

ZoM_Head wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

I call BS. Kroguarding vs Geth... takes little to no skill. That's how most people got it... so the banner will forever be tainted in that regard.


This

Or Asaris with Stasis bubble and black widow.

Seriously, it will be the ONLY banner i will not even bother for, and i have 21/25 done already.


>Implying an Asari Adept/Vanguard with a heavy sniper rifle is a good setup


For a solo player sure, but i am anti solo, hence why i play a CO-OP game (magic word).

Would LOVE to see such a set-up being used in on Platinum.

Seriously, if anything, Bioware should remove all lone wolf banners and make two Plat matches required, since you are ditching 3 friends and the whole point of a co-op game.

No more krogan Vanguards against geth, or silly asaris bubbling and sniping, good luck with locking down bosses.

Whatever, seriously, i am anti lone wolf/solo/speed run kind fo guy. Get in there with friends and enjoy the CO-OP game and give the enemy hell.


I see my post went right over your head.

#191
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Banners don't mean too much of anything.. they are just something nice to put up to look at different scenes in the lobby.. just like any other banner it doesn't tell you how long or how many games it took or which map it was on.. and yes there are some very advantageous maps for soloing..don't judge by N7 rank or banners play a game to find out where people are at with their skill level.

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ZoM_Head wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

ZoM_Head wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

I call BS. Kroguarding vs Geth... takes little to no skill. That's how most people got it... so the banner will forever be tainted in that regard.


This

Or Asaris with Stasis bubble and black widow.

Seriously, it will be the ONLY banner i will not even bother for, and i have 21/25 done already.


>Implying an Asari Adept/Vanguard with a heavy sniper rifle is a good setup


For a solo player sure, but i am anti solo, hence why i play a CO-OP game (magic word).

Would LOVE to see such a set-up being used in on Platinum.

Seriously, if anything, Bioware should remove all lone wolf banners and make two Plat matches required, since you are ditching 3 friends and the whole point of a co-op game.

No more krogan Vanguards against geth, or silly asaris bubbling and sniping, good luck with locking down bosses.

Whatever, seriously, i am anti lone wolf/solo/speed run kind fo guy. Get in there with friends and enjoy the CO-OP game and give the enemy hell.



WHOOSH

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NuclearTech76 wrote...

Yawn. It's a freaking banner for a video game. WTF is the grand prize if we are more "skilled" than another person at a video game? I know it's tough but try to have fun at the damn game and quit making it into a pissing contest.


I can have fun and discuss skill at the same time.

I can also do this with walking and chewing gum.

=]

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jaydubs67 wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

LW is just as much a grind as any of the other banners. 2 Gold solos is easy even for average players. Kroguard vs anything or TGI vs anything = easy mode.


You are wrong.  Not because gold solos are super difficulty, especially with certain class/enemy combinations, but because you are overestimating the capability of average players.  

Your average BSNer might get it done.  Your average private lobby friend can probably do it.  Your average random player is going to get ****ed hard the moment an objective shows up.  

so very much this.  bsn and your friendslist are not average players.  who do you add to your friends list/ people who know the game .... for most of us t least.....   all tht complaining about pugs you hear/ those terribad pugs are the average players of this game.  bioware has said that, by far, the majority of games are brone and silver.  ... this should tell you something.   bsners need to realize that the bulk of people on bsn are the  quote top tiers /end quote, the quote elite end quote of this game.  needing to feel elite or higher than the bulk of bsn is kind of an absurd level of elitism.  heck even discounting all players outside of bsn and bashing pugs is kinda elitism .... but most of us do it.  ah well... point is, remember, most people are nowhere near as good as you are at the game..... and i mean you as in ja huge chunk of the people on these boards

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ErrorTagUnknown wrote...

jaydubs67 wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

LW is just as much a grind as any of the other banners. 2 Gold solos is easy even for average players. Kroguard vs anything or TGI vs anything = easy mode.


You are wrong.  Not because gold solos are super difficulty, especially with certain class/enemy combinations, but because you are overestimating the capability of average players.  

Your average BSNer might get it done.  Your average private lobby friend can probably do it.  Your average random player is going to get ****ed hard the moment an objective shows up.  

so very much this.  bsn and your friendslist are not average players.  who do you add to your friends list/ people who know the game .... for most of us t least.....   all tht complaining about pugs you hear/ those terribad pugs are the average players of this game.  bioware has said that, by far, the majority of games are brone and silver.  ... this should tell you something.   bsners need to realize that the bulk of people on bsn are the  quote top tiers /end quote, the quote elite end quote of this game.  needing to feel elite or higher than the bulk of bsn is kind of an absurd level of elitism.  heck even discounting all players outside of bsn and bashing pugs is kinda elitism .... but most of us do it.  ah well... point is, remember, most people are nowhere near as good as you are at the game..... and i mean you as in ja huge chunk of the people on these boards


Good point.

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upinya slayin wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

joker_jack wrote...

With a solo platinum, most have used the map glitches on hydra and dagger. That right there taints the banner more than kroguarg vs geth.


A friend of mine soloed Platinum with a Turian Ghost on Rio... sitting inside the damn boxes spamming stim packs. Said it took him 2 hours.

Lone Wolf Banner means poo


lol that is too funny


You know what.  I'm going to try this just for lulz!  I want to know if you can survive in a box next to a box on platinum with a TGI.  Do you know what enemy and if he managed this on the first try?

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CaballoGallo wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

I call BS. Kroguarding vs Geth... takes little to no skill. That's how most people got it... so the banner will forever be tainted in that regard.

Yet, so many people struggle kroguarding v geth. You're point, if it even is one, is wrong.


Only if they haven't discovered the wonders of an alcolyte equipped with disruptor or incindiary ammo do people have trouble with a krogaurd and geth.

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Lone Wolf, skill? Takes patience, consumables and a little forethought. I'm not really convinced that any banners assume a lot of skill to earn, they all take some grinding - Lone Wolf less than most.

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99.9% of banners requires only patience ( 200 waves - 200 waves and all of this 140k for using weapons and all kind of tech and biotic powers ) but lone wolf looks like a real-challenge.

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The only thing the banners seem to be encouraging is versatility - playing more weapons, more classes, etc. Lone Wolf does differ in that way. You are encouraged only to lather rinse and repeat enemies until forced to run away as many times as it takes.