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Siding with Dalish or Werewolves?


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#26
Mehow_pwn

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IF your playing on very hard.. you have to remember that...on the last boss some melee units are competely useless but not all so it might be a good idea to have.. either...
Mages.. and Werewolfs
Templars and dalish
or 
Dalish and mages but then it will be somewhat hard to pass throught all does men and mimi bosses before archdemon

Of course you can also use dwarves with golems which are also very good

Also to be honest I hated the elfs as people becaues they seemed so weak and too much nautrue loveing.. carebears

but beside I would love seen dalish as a nation with huge citys

Modifié par Mehow_pwn, 02 janvier 2010 - 04:28 .


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Mehow_pwn

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sorry for doubel post..

Modifié par Mehow_pwn, 02 janvier 2010 - 04:27 .


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thegreateski

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Borschtbeet wrote...

Fighting alongside Swiftrunner when fighting the Arch demon is just plain awesome.

*spoiler alert*

I'm pretty sure he even shows up at your funeral during the ultimate sacrifice ending if you side with him.

The whole . . . "important NPCs fighting alongside you thing" is only on the PC is it not?

Modifié par thegreateski, 02 janvier 2010 - 04:36 .


#29
AtreiyaN7

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I sided with the werewolves, and I had Zathrian sacrifice himself to end the curse after we beat him down. It was the right thing to do (morally speaking anyway).

#30
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I was pushed to side with the Dalish, curing the werewolves. I wanted to side with the werewolves (even left Wynne and Alistair behind because I figured they wouldn't like it; yeah, I meta-gamed that), but I didn't have enough coercion to convince Swiftrunner and the Lady to attack the elves.



Honestly.. while I found the general Dalish plot good overall, I was a bit disappointed with the progression. I found it way too easy to get the "good" ending (gain the trust of the Dalish for the treaties, expose Zathrian's lies, and cure the werewolves). To me, it would've made more sense if the secondary option, besides going right after Witherfang, would've been to lead the werewolves to the Dalish camp in an attempt to confront and persuade Zathrian.. think about it. The Lady said the last few times Zathrian's clan was around, they tried to get him to talk, but he refused. So her plan when you showed up was.. to get Zathrian to come alone into a werewolf-infested lair and talk? What would make him any more willing to talk at your say-so than previous times? Especially since he'd be asked to come alone with you and your party (you all being outsiders, or at least not of his clan).



IMO, it would've been more sensible and dramatic if (besides killing Witherfang outright) the option was for you to lead the Lady and werewolves back to the Dalish camp (which could be explained as them having trouble tracking it down before they left the area again) to force Zathrian into discussions like they wanted. Zathrian would always refuse talking, and you'd have one last chance to side with the elves and kill the werewolves, or side with the werewolves and kill the elves.



Being coercive enough, you could open up the third option, leading Zathrian to the werewolf lair where it would play out as normal for the "good" ending. But you'd have to convince the Lady/Swiftrunner that you could talk Zathrian into coming alone and you'd side with them if things go awry (of course, you could still double-cross them and side with Zathrian when he pushes for a fight).

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Realmzmaster

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I use the elves over the werewolves because the werewolves are melee units. There are certain places that the dragon short hops to that cannot be reached by melee units, which is why you need the ballista to get it to move. Arrows and magic can follow the Archdemon anywhere.

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Zaragorne

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I couldnt persuade the frigin werewolfs ended up lifting the curse...

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Beechwell

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Really, for any character with some kind of moral compass lifting the curse is the only sensible course of action.

I think the decision would have been a more interesting one if the werewolves were still the original humans cursed by Zathrien (and also those who tortured and murdered his children). That would give his his feelings of revenge a more credible basis.

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Finiffa

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Beechwell wrote...

Really, for any character with some kind of moral compass lifting the curse is the only sensible course of action.
I think the decision would have been a more interesting one if the werewolves were still the original humans cursed by Zathrien (and also those who tortured and murdered his children). That would give his his feelings of revenge a more credible basis.

It is also too bad you cannot show him the werewolf lady (I forgot her name) that came from his own camp and that begs you to kill her to him. He might have regretted his actions a bit sooner then....seeing how he is hurting his own people.

#35
Aseya

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I always felt very moved towards werewolves and I loved the little plot but cus i like them that much just cant seem to make myself do anything but remove the curse. It would just seem to cruel to keep them as werewolves

#36
XOGHunter246

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Ok I sided with the wolves only once for achievement but it makes no sense to side with them when you save them and help them Elves. Morally killing the Elves is wrong but I think from experience Zathrian deserves to die he is a lier and tries to use me for his goals.

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packardbell

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The complete and utter slaughter of the Dalish clan because of the sins of the Keeper is very unethical imo.

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Aseya

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I would never codemn entire race becuase of the immorality of tehir leader, I think the girl keeper who comes after him would never commit the same crime he did hence why Im satisfied when he dies

by lifting the curse.