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[Rpgfantasyplayer]

garrusfan1 wrote...

Think of it this way on which gen consoles will they make more money and the answer is current gen since not that many people will buy the new systems and would then buy DA3 since not many people can afford to buy it. Also I think they just about confirmed import options

That is the only thought that keeps me hopeful that it will be on current gen consoles.  But there is still that nagging worry in the back of my mind.

[garrusfan1]

Terrorize69 wrote...

You also got to remember the fact DA3 will have save importing. Sorry if I'm wrong but I know of no console game that can import save date from the previous generation.

I am sure they could make a little device to do it buy it would cost too much money so I doubt they will

[garrusfan1]

Rpg fantasy true guess we will have to see

[DarkKnightHolmes]

I imagine EA/Bioware will want the most amount of sales. Releasing it on a console that less than a few millions will have is not a good business idea.

[Rpgfantasyplayer]

garrusfan1 wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

You also got to remember the fact DA3 will have save importing. Sorry if I'm wrong but I know of no console game that can import save date from the previous generation.

I am sure they could make a little device to do it buy it would cost too much money so I doubt they will

What about importing through USB?  If that doesn't pose a problem then that is possibly how it can be port between old and new console.

[Terrorize69]

garrusfan1 wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

You also got to remember the fact DA3 will have save importing. Sorry if I'm wrong but I know of no console game that can import save date from the previous generation.

I am sure they could make a little device to do it buy it would cost too much money so I doubt they will

Seeing as BW can't decrypt/deal with PS3 save files, that seems a highly unlikely option for them aswell as extremely expensive.

[Terrorize69]

Rpgfantasyplayer wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

You also got to remember the fact DA3 will have save importing. Sorry if I'm wrong but I know of no console game that can import save date from the previous generation.

I am sure they could make a little device to do it buy it would cost too much money so I doubt they will

What about importing through USB?  If that doesn't pose a problem then that is possibly how it can be port between old and new console.

While I'm not sure about Xbox files, PS3 saves are heavily protected, moving from from one PS3 system to another PS3 is hard enough and can end up corrupting them too easily let alone to move them to a differenlt generation that will no doubt have new levels of protection.

[Rpgfantasyplayer]

Terrorize69 wrote...

Rpgfantasyplayer wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

You also got to remember the fact DA3 will have save importing. Sorry if I'm wrong but I know of no console game that can import save date from the previous generation.

I am sure they could make a little device to do it buy it would cost too much money so I doubt they will

What about importing through USB?  If that doesn't pose a problem then that is possibly how it can be port between old and new console.

While I'm not sure about Xbox files, PS3 saves are heavily protected, moving from from one PS3 system to another PS3 is hard enough and can end up corrupting them too easily let alone to move them to a differenlt generation that will no doubt have new levels of protection.

It is easier with Xbox files.  When I went from an older console to the newer console all my saves transferred through USB. 

[naughty99]

Rpgfantasyplayer wrote...

It is so up in the air right now as to what console it will be and that makes me nervous only for the fact that if it is next gen only then I won't be getting the game for a while. I can't afford $60 for the game and a new console on top of that. I can only keep my fingers crossed that if it is on next gen that it is also on current gen console. I usually buy multiple platforms due to the fact that I game on console but some of my family games on PC but with the way PC specs change all the time it may not play on the perfectly good computer that we have right now.

What are your specs and display resolution? I haven't seen any big changes in games being more demanding for PC over the past few years. If anything they seem to have become better optimized.

All the latest games still run just fine at 1080p on my three year old laptop, which is not even a gaming-oriented laptop. The only game I ever had problems with is Witcher 2, but with PC you can adjust a lot of settings and even reduce your resolution, so I run Witcher 2 at 720p instead.

"Next gen" consoles just means a little bit more RAM to handle more complex game systems (like open world RPGs), more open level design, and better CPU and graphics cards, to be able to run games finally at 1920x1080, possibly even higher, with better lighting and higher quality textures, etc., instead of current gen consoles which can only render 99% of games at 1280x720 with low quality textures, low quality shadows, 2xAA, no anisotropic filtering, etc.

PCs can already handle all of this, so I don't see why PC games would suddenly become much more demanding as soon as next gen consoles are released. I imagine the time when most PC owner's graphics cards will be suddenly outdated is whenever the consumer upgrades to 4k monitors, still a few years down the road.

Modifié par naughty99, 01 novembre 2012 - 07:46 .

[Rpgfantasyplayer]

naughty99 wrote...

Rpgfantasyplayer wrote...

It is so up in the air right now as to what console it will be and that makes me nervous only for the fact that if it is next gen only then I won't be getting the game for a while. I can't afford $60 for the game and a new console on top of that. I can only keep my fingers crossed that if it is on next gen that it is also on current gen console. I usually buy multiple platforms due to the fact that I game on console but some of my family games on PC but with the way PC specs change all the time it may not play on the perfectly good computer that we have right now.

What are your specs and display resolution? I haven't seen any big changes in games being more demanding for PC over the past few years. If anything they seem to have become better optimized.

All the latest games still run just fine at 1080p on my three year old laptop, which is not even a gaming-oriented laptop. The only game I ever had problems with is Witcher 2, but with PC you can adjust a lot of settings and even reduce your resolution, so I run Witcher 2 at 720p instead.

"Next gen" consoles just means a little bit more RAM to handle more complex game systems (like open world RPGs), more open level design, and better CPU and graphics cards, to be able to run games finally at 1920x1080, possibly even higher, with better lighting and higher quality textures, etc., instead of current gen consoles which can only render 99% of games at 1280x720 with low quality textures, low quality shadows, 2xAA, no anisotropic filtering, etc.

PCs can already handle all of this, so I don't see why PC games would suddenly become much more demanding as soon as next gen consoles are released. I imagine the time when most PC owner's graphics cards will be suddenly outdated is whenever the consumer upgrades to 4k monitors, still a few years down the road.

I am not at home, but I have a laptop and it is an alienware, but the video card doesn't seem to support some games graphics (it is an older model) and I don't want to have to get a new computer when I have a perfectly good one at home.  Not only that but I prefer to play on a gaming computer and they are just so expensive.  I have checked into new graphics cards and for laptops it just seems that you can only upgrade so much. Example is I can play Witcher on my current PC but I can't play Witcher 2.

Modifié par Rpgfantasyplayer, 01 novembre 2012 - 07:52 .

[LinksOcarina]

Plaintiff wrote...

Guns wrote...
considering they're coming out in the next 1-2 years.

According to who? Sony and Microsoft have both stressed a "ten-year plan" for their current home consoles, which would suggest that this generation has another 2-3 years in it at least.

Sony no longer can go with a ten year plan because they have been hemmoraging money for the past two years. they basically need new blood, or need to support the PS Vita hard, somethng they have not been able to capitalize on. 

As for Microsoft, they basically are using the Kinect as their in-between phase to improve longevity for the 360, so expect another 2 years at the most, but I do figure both companies plan on announcing a new console by E3 2013. 

[BubbleDncr]

I hope its on this gen solely for the save-imports. Even if they update their save-import to have a check-list or something to double check everything came in correctly, I still want to import my previous save just because I need a memory refresher - there's no way I'm gonna remember what choice I made in every single playthrough I've done.

Maybe if DA3 comes out on the next gen consoles, they could release a DLC beforehand for DA2 that just gives you a list of all the decisions you made in that save file for both Origins and DA2. Then DA3 could just have a checklist that you fill in or something.

But otherwise - if it comes out for current and next-gen consoles, I would really hate being stuck with getting the current gen version just to import my saves correctly. But this is also kind of why I've always figured the end of DA3 will put Thedas in a place that's almost like a reset point - where majority of the decisions in 1 2 and 3 no longer matter, and DA4 could start out either with the player picking one generic background or something. Because if DA3 doesn't come out on the next gen consoles, DA4 most definitely will.

[Lennard Testarossa]

I sincerely hope it will be released on the next generation of consoles. This generation's hardware is somewhat outdated.

[naughty99]

Rpgfantasyplayer wrote...

naughty99 wrote...

Rpgfantasyplayer wrote...

It is so up in the air right now as to what console it will be and that makes me nervous only for the fact that if it is next gen only then I won't be getting the game for a while. I can't afford $60 for the game and a new console on top of that. I can only keep my fingers crossed that if it is on next gen that it is also on current gen console. I usually buy multiple platforms due to the fact that I game on console but some of my family games on PC but with the way PC specs change all the time it may not play on the perfectly good computer that we have right now.

What are your specs and display resolution? I haven't seen any big changes in games being more demanding for PC over the past few years. If anything they seem to have become better optimized.

All the latest games still run just fine at 1080p on my three year old laptop, which is not even a gaming-oriented laptop. The only game I ever had problems with is Witcher 2, but with PC you can adjust a lot of settings and even reduce your resolution, so I run Witcher 2 at 720p instead.

"Next gen" consoles just means a little bit more RAM to handle more complex game systems (like open world RPGs), more open level design, and better CPU and graphics cards, to be able to run games finally at 1920x1080, possibly even higher, with better lighting and higher quality textures, etc., instead of current gen consoles which can only render 99% of games at 1280x720 with low quality textures, low quality shadows, 2xAA, no anisotropic filtering, etc.

PCs can already handle all of this, so I don't see why PC games would suddenly become much more demanding as soon as next gen consoles are released. I imagine the time when most PC owner's graphics cards will be suddenly outdated is whenever the consumer upgrades to 4k monitors, still a few years down the road.

I am not at home, but I have a laptop and it is an alienware, but the video card doesn't seem to support some games graphics (it is an older model) and I don't want to have to get a new computer when I have a perfectly good one at home.  Not only that but I prefer to play on a gaming computer and they are just so expensive.  I have checked into new graphics cards and for laptops it just seems that you can only upgrade so much. Example is I can play Witcher on my current PC but I can't play Witcher 2.

Which video card is it? And what is the display resolution on your laptop?

Witcher 2 is not a great indication of what games your PC can run. It's the most demanding, poorly optimized game I've ever played on my laptop. Witcher 2 is the only game I can't run at 1080p, even on lowest settings, but I can run Dishonored, Mass Effect 3, CS:GO, DOTA2, DA2, Skyrim, DXHR, Arkham City, etc., all at 1920x1080 with most settings completely maxed

[Lennard Testarossa]

naughty99 wrote...
but I can run Dishonored, Mass Effect 3, CS:GO, DOTA2, DA2, Skyrim, DXHR, Arkham City, etc., all at 1920x1080 with most settings completely maxe

...all of those game's graphics are significantly worse than that of The Witcher 2. Can you run Crysis 2 at max settings?

Edit: Actually, except for Dota 2 (which is another case entirely) all of those games were made for consoles. So yeah, your PC can run games made for a console released six years ago.

Games released primarily for pcs are a great indication of what your pc can run, games made for consoles are not.

Modifié par Lennard Testarossa, 01 novembre 2012 - 08:14 .

[The Elder King]

Snake91 wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Even though they [Bioware] haven't announced the platforms, I would think it would be out on the PS3/360 because of the save-import feature.

Also, IIRC, there was an anonymous survey among game studios a few months ago. 60% said they won't be developing a game for this generation in after 2013. So it's safe to assume that the likelihood of it releasing on these consoles is still a strong possibility.

What are your thoughts?

Nope is for PS4 and XBOX720

Do you have a srouce for you security? I think it'll be released on this gen (and I explained why in page 2 of this thread) but I'm not certain, because we know almost nothing of the game AND the new consoles.

[naughty99]

Lennard Testarossa wrote...

naughty99 wrote...
but I can run Dishonored, Mass Effect 3, CS:GO, DOTA2, DA2, Skyrim, DXHR, Arkham City, etc., all at 1920x1080 with most settings completely maxe

...all of those game's graphics are significantly worse than that of The Witcher 2. Can you run Crysis 2 at max settings?

And sadly, all of those games look much better than Witcher 2 on my PC because I can run them all at 1080p with 16xAF, high res textures, FXAA, high quality shadows, etc.

Witcher 2 only runs at a playable framerate at 1280x720 on all the lowest settings (which look like crap) and the game still lags like hell. It might look great on very high end desktop gaming PCs, but on my system Witcher 2 looks worse than all those other games.

naughty99 wrote...
Edit: Actually, except for Dota 2 (which is another case entirely) all of those games were made for consoles. So yeah, your PC can run games made for a console released six years ago.

Games released primarily for pcs are a great indication of what your pc can run, games made for consoles are not.

Well, my laptop runs Civ 5 just fine at 1080p in DX10/DX11 mode, Team Fortress 2 runs fine with all settings maxed at 1080p, Hard Reset and Amnesia run fine at 1080p, tried a few PC-exclusive MMOs as well such as The Secret World, TOR Beta, everything runs great at 1080p usually with most settings maxed.

I don't know perhaps I haven't played enough PC-exclusives, but Witcher 2 is the only game I've ever tried that was so poorly optimized I had to drop down to 720p and lower all the settings. As a result it looks much worse than all the other games I've played, and the lag is still pretty bad even at 720p. I've never played Crysis or Metro2033, which I understand are also very demanding games.

Modifié par naughty99, 01 novembre 2012 - 08:39 .

[Rpgfantasyplayer]

naughty99 wrote...

Rpgfantasyplayer wrote...

naughty99 wrote...

Rpgfantasyplayer wrote...

It is so up in the air right now as to what console it will be and that makes me nervous only for the fact that if it is next gen only then I won't be getting the game for a while. I can't afford $60 for the game and a new console on top of that. I can only keep my fingers crossed that if it is on next gen that it is also on current gen console. I usually buy multiple platforms due to the fact that I game on console but some of my family games on PC but with the way PC specs change all the time it may not play on the perfectly good computer that we have right now.

What are your specs and display resolution? I haven't seen any big changes in games being more demanding for PC over the past few years. If anything they seem to have become better optimized.

All the latest games still run just fine at 1080p on my three year old laptop, which is not even a gaming-oriented laptop. The only game I ever had problems with is Witcher 2, but with PC you can adjust a lot of settings and even reduce your resolution, so I run Witcher 2 at 720p instead.

"Next gen" consoles just means a little bit more RAM to handle more complex game systems (like open world RPGs), more open level design, and better CPU and graphics cards, to be able to run games finally at 1920x1080, possibly even higher, with better lighting and higher quality textures, etc., instead of current gen consoles which can only render 99% of games at 1280x720 with low quality textures, low quality shadows, 2xAA, no anisotropic filtering, etc.

PCs can already handle all of this, so I don't see why PC games would suddenly become much more demanding as soon as next gen consoles are released. I imagine the time when most PC owner's graphics cards will be suddenly outdated is whenever the consumer upgrades to 4k monitors, still a few years down the road.

I am not at home, but I have a laptop and it is an alienware, but the video card doesn't seem to support some games graphics (it is an older model) and I don't want to have to get a new computer when I have a perfectly good one at home.  Not only that but I prefer to play on a gaming computer and they are just so expensive.  I have checked into new graphics cards and for laptops it just seems that you can only upgrade so much. Example is I can play Witcher on my current PC but I can't play Witcher 2.

Which video card is it? And what is the display resolution on your laptop?

Witcher 2 is not a great indication of what games your PC can run. It's the most demanding, poorly optimized game I've ever played on my laptop. Witcher 2 is the only game I can't run at 1080p, even on lowest settings, but I can run Dishonored, Mass Effect 3, CS:GO, DOTA2, DA2, Skyrim, DXHR, Arkham City, etc., all at 1920x1080 with most settings completely maxed

The graphics card is a Nvidia Go 6800.  Max resolution is 1680 x 1050.

[Darth Death]

PC is already next gen. Now, what do I win?

[PsychoBlonde]

In case you were wondering.

So, 2013 for PS4 is not unreasonable.

Modifié par PsychoBlonde, 01 novembre 2012 - 08:49 .

[BouncyFrag]

Having to wait for this game along with waiting for the next generation releases would make my head spin and require a long, long nap!

[Asch Lavigne]

Current and Nex-Gan is my guess. It would be stupid of them to abandon the current gen consoles and their users (who don't have a new one yet for whatever reason, or don't know which console they want yet, too early in the cycle to tell) just because the new ones came out. I mean there's no way DA3 would be a console seller. Plus, look how many games still came out for the PS2 after the PS3 came out. Them not making DA3 for the current gen would also kill their sales.

[BouncyFrag]

Darth Death wrote...

PC is already next gen. Now, what do I win?

Speaking for the dirty, console peasants, we were hoping no one brought that up.

[naughty99]

Rpgfantasyplayer wrote...

naughty99 wrote...

Which video card is it? And what is the display resolution on your laptop?

Witcher 2 is not a great indication of what games your PC can run. It's the most demanding, poorly optimized game I've ever played on my laptop. Witcher 2 is the only game I can't run at 1080p, even on lowest settings, but I can run Dishonored, Mass Effect 3, CS:GO, DOTA2, DA2, Skyrim, DXHR, Arkham City, etc., all at 1920x1080 with most settings completely maxed

The graphics card is a Nvidia Go 6800.  Max resolution is 1680 x 1050.

Ah, unfortunately, I don't think it will be able to run recent games at 1680x1050, as this card is ranked lower than the Intel graphics HD4000, according to notebookcheck. The HD4000 is the integrated graphics chip integrated into Ivy Bridge CPUs in current laptops that ship without any dedicated graphics card. The HD4000 can run most games at 1366x768, however. Perhaps if you try reducing your resolution.

Modifié par naughty99, 01 novembre 2012 - 09:11 .