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[Crimson Vanguard]

What I want to see is a change to the freaking Guardian. He just a bag of free points unless you are bad (luck) enough to be killed by him. I would like him to be nearly tanky as Brute, with shield and armor instead of health only and then he can replace most of Dragoon as a pinning unit instead of walking meatbag

[MP-Ryan]

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

What I want to see is a change to the freaking Guardian. He just a bag of free points unless you are bad (luck) enough to be killed by him. I would like him to be nearly tanky as Brute, with shield and armor instead of health only and then he can replace most of Dragoon as a pinning unit instead of walking meatbag

Or just armour.  It would make considerably more sense than the dragoons.

[SquintSky12]

DJ Airsurfer wrote...

I just did a Cerberus/Platinum run with three other guys (while off host) in 23 minutes with only using two consumables.

I don't see the problem here.

Problem is that so many people choose to complain rather than adapt and realise that they are not that hard.  To all those pugs who get wiped i guess they have to go back to bronze and learn to beat Cerberus again before moving back up.  People will learn to deal eventually.

[Clips7]

The only faction i ever have problems with is the geth....waaay too much stun locking going on. Cerberus on the other hand, other than the spamming dragoons, i can deal with them...they're a decent challenge...and the phanthoms at times do tend to be a tad cheap, but they are manageable..the collectors at the moment at least for me bring up the most stiff, but refreshing challenge.

Which i find kinda weird since i would think that the reapers should be stronger than the collectors...but when i lose to the collectors or any other faction, it's because i either got careless or the enemies actually put up a good fight...the geth tho....they are just cheap.

[dimeonwu]

BattleCop88 wrote...

I think we're experiencing power creep in favor of enemies. Only the pros see this as a challenge. Everybody else thinks its cheap and frustrating.

/thread

[AbhijitSM]

Not to mention the atlas curving their missiles at some crazy angles sometimes & even their canon hitting you when those big fat assed machine's are turned & looking somewhere else.

[Titus Thongger]

AbhijitSM wrote...

Not to mention the atlas curving their missiles at some crazy angles sometimes & even their canon hitting you when those big fat assed machine's are turned & looking somewhere else.

or phantoms magnet swording your turian as he jetpacks away

[AbhijitSM]

Titus Thongger wrote...

AbhijitSM wrote...

Not to mention the atlas curving their missiles at some crazy angles sometimes & even their canon hitting you when those big fat assed machine's are turned & looking somewhere else.

or phantoms magnet swording your turian as he jetpacks away

Yeah...phantoms and their magnet swords. The dragoons can be handled well now with the new Batguard:police: but the phantoms are still an issue as they can sync kill. With the batarians not having dodge or a side-hop nor they being stagger resistant chances's to die from a sync-kill unit are even more.

[Gwyphon]

I don't like the addition of the dragoon or the bomber at all really. Completely changed the way you were supposed to fight cerberus. Now you fight them like reapers, running around the map and disregarding the entire cover system.

[-JP-]

Atlases are slow and predictable. Phantoms, well, they aren't slow at least.

The only issues I have with Cerberus stem from getting groups of dragoons in my face while not playing my Asari vanguard, really.

[ASmoothCriminalx]

Is it the enemies are too tough or the "randoms" you're playing with shouldn't be on gold?

[Crimson Vanguard]

ASmoothCriminalx wrote...

Is it the enemies are too tough or the "randoms" you're playing with shouldn't be on gold?

Not tough, they just cheap. PLAIN CHEAP. And yeah Air Quotes's luck for pug is really suck

[ASmoothCriminalx]

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

ASmoothCriminalx wrote...

Is it the enemies are too tough or the "randoms" you're playing with shouldn't be on gold?

Not tough, they just cheap. PLAIN CHEAP. And yeah Air Quotes's luck for pug is really suck

Dragoons are a joke if you see/know they are coming. Only qualm is that some characters don't have a dodge and it's either kill them before they get to you, or get stagger-gang-banged.. or run away I guess.

**edit** sorry, I jumped right to dragoons even though you didn't mention them. That seems to be what most point to, though.

You could say the combination of all the enemies makes them cheap.. but I would have to say that atlases are pattern-based and that if people can't handle phantoms now, they couldn't beforehand.

Modifié par ASmoothCriminalx, 01 novembre 2012 - 07:10 .

[Titus Thongger]

dragoons are a nightmare for the old turian vets. they dont have the krogan/batarian durability and stagger-resistance and generally get whipped apart by the predatory packs of dragoons

[Kiernin]

Lets be totally honest here. When was the alst time you ever saw an Atlas and grew concerned. Since ME3s release, it has always been "Oh, an Atlas, I'll get around to it eventually.", or "Yay, a target I can use to BE/tech burst everything around it to death."

[AbhijitSM]

Kiernin wrote...

Lets be totally honest here. When was the alst time you ever saw an Atlas and grew concerned. Since ME3s release, it has always been "Oh, an Atlas, I'll get around to it eventually.", or "Yay, a target I can use to BE/tech burst everything around it to death."

I can understand them providing a real challenge. The addtl cannon shot & the DOT were fine. But cheap mechanics are annoying. As i said in my earlier post they tend to curve thier missiles around cover & sometimes they shoot you with their cannon at a crazy angle which is frustrating.

[CaballoGallo]

Cerberus aren't hard at all, they are the exact same as reapers, slightly more annoying, if you find them over buffed, or hard, wow.

[Warrenkh]

Dragoons need to be slowed down. Or if they continue to be quick, then take away their hornets. The maps are full of corners, and they are extremely silent. If you are a caster, its impossible to fend them off. If you cast something at them, they simply ignore it, and proceed to smash you. And if you tried to back away, they get out their hornet and blast you.

[solidprice]

dimeonwu wrote...

BattleCop88 wrote...

I think we're experiencing power creep in favor of enemies. Only the pros see this as a challenge. Everybody else thinks its cheap and frustrating.

/thread

[Arppis]

Dunno, they seem rather easy. Only thing they need to change is Dragoon's get staggered a bit more and NOT whipping every second.

Atlas has never been a major problem for me. If this is platiumn only problem: good they should be tough.

Modifié par Arppis, 01 novembre 2012 - 08:29 .

[Vic7im]

Slower Dragoons, faster and more aggressive Nemesis, reduce the dmg. reduction given by cartwheeling (Phantom) because I've just unloaded two harrier clips with the TGI on a cartwheeling phantom and she got from full barriers to a little sliver.

That's all the balance Cerberus needs

Modifié par Vic7im, 01 novembre 2012 - 08:35 .

[d_nought]

Yeah, you can't f*** around in Cerberus PUGs anymore. You really have to be in it to win it.

I had a match yesterday where i got executed and then the other three guys all went down about 5 seconds later and all bled out. Of course, maybe I shouldn't have been dumb and gotten executed, but still, definitely shows that you need to bring the A-game for dealing with Dragoons.