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[DullahansXMark]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

To be honest, I kinda wanna roleplay as Javik and troll all the asari players.

I AM YOUR GOD, BLUE ONE. YOU SHOULD BE WORSHIPING ME.

CRY MORE ABOUT YOUR HOMEWORLD.

SORRY, I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF ME CRUSHING ALL YOUR DREAMS.

if he actually said stuff like that, I'd gladly accept him.

[RasenRebirth]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Javik is my favorite ME3 squadmate, both for his character and story. I am a hardcore lore nerd, and when something contradictory happens I rage with the best of them. I understand what adds and subtracts weight to a narrative (in fact, most of my threads in the SP forum involve me fussing about the narrative in one way or another).

But multiplayer is SUPPOSED to be stupid fun. I just spent three hours defending pumpkins from robo-zombies whilst splashing through acid rain puddles in my shiny pink armor.

Bring on the goddamned Protheans.

Thank you

[corporal doody]

RasenRebirth wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Javik is my favorite ME3 squadmate, both for his character and story. I am a hardcore lore nerd, and when something contradictory happens I rage with the best of them. I understand what adds and subtracts weight to a narrative (in fact, most of my threads in the SP forum involve me fussing about the narrative in one way or another).

But multiplayer is SUPPOSED to be stupid fun. I just spent three hours defending pumpkins from robo-zombies whilst splashing through acid rain puddles in my shiny pink armor.

Bring on the goddamned Protheans.

Thank you

so they damn well better add in Uzi wielding Circus Seals, half naked Bananas with machetes, space ninjas riding space camels, a coked out volus on a skateboard, and Tony Hawk eating ice cream.

ME3MP has NOTHING to do with ME3SP.  LETS HAVE SOME FUN!


holiday fun =/= lore issues.

[Eriseley]

Getting back to the OP, no I don't think it would add much, but BioWare can do whatever. I don't like it from a storytelling perspective, but it's not the biggest of deals.

Unless they made a side Multiplayer set in the Prothean era fighting Reapers, restricted to Prothean characters. That would be awesome.

Modifié par Eriseley, 01 novembre 2012 - 07:29 .

[Clayless]

No, don't add Protheans, it WILL cheapen Javik's character and just be stupid, seriously hundreds or thousands of Protheans fighting across the galaxy? With Javik all lamenting over the fact that he's the last? Ridiculous.

Why do the people asking for Protheans not just ask for Collector Thralls instead? It's lore friendly AND they're new characters.

Modifié par Our_Last_Scene, 01 novembre 2012 - 07:35 .

[corporal doody]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

No, don't add Protheans, it WILL cheapen Javik's character and just be stupid, seriously hundreds or thousands of Protheans fighting across the galaxy? With Javik all lamenting over the fact that he's the last? Ridiculous.

Why do the people asking for Protheans not just ask for Collector Thralls instead? It's lore friendly AND they're new characters.

neither sounds appealing.

a prothean as a promo or bonus character in a game that isnt Mass Effect 3: Galaxy at War.....no problem.

Modifié par corporal doody, 01 novembre 2012 - 07:38 .

[Clayless]

At least the Collectors are lore friendly. It's the middle ground between both sides of this debate.

[Tom-N7-]

Couldn't they just be clones made form Javik's genetic material? Everybody loves clones! (Inb4 ppl's rant I really don't care if they add them or not)

[Father Superior]

DullahansXMark wrote...

Father Superior wrote...

Batarians are just reskinned Turians. Geth are just reskinned Quarians/Salarians. Quarians/Salarians are just reskinned Salarians/Quarians. Your argument is flawed on every level and your objections are founded in ignorance. Excluding the part about Javik (which has been proven to be more of a cop-out than the majority of theist arguments for the existence of a god), your entire post could have been used against the Volus, who are far more capable of breaking the suspension of disbelief than Protheans could ever be to a rational person.

If you don't want Protheans, that's fine. Just don't go around pretending that you have rational reasons for your opinion, because it is demonstrably clear that you do not.

And yet you provide no tangible evidence to back your own claim...

http://social.biowar.../index/13665128

There it is. 11 pages that refute the majority (if not all) of anti-Prothean arguments. I've posted that link in far too many threads already and it was late when I posted last night, so I forgot to include it.

[Nissun]

I'm interested in what pro-prothean people think about the idea of adding Krogan and Salarian females to multiplayer, or what their stance on the Volus was/is.

[Kogia]

I don't want Protheans in, I don't see why people are so keen for them to be in, what exactly was so cool about them? If it's just for variety then I'd rather have Elcor, more Salarians, or even a new species that arrives and joins in the war from a previously unexplored part of the galaxy.

However I didn't want Volus in either and I think they implemented them pretty well and now I think they were a great addition, so I'll not be upset if they go with the crazies and put in an extinct race.

[Felis Menari]

ThatGuyThatPlaysThisGame wrote...

Multiplayer is already not lore friendly but people will claim putting multiplayer protheans would ruin Javik and his uniqueness.

Yep. The integrity of the MP's connection to the SP lore has already been compromised. It's just a matter of what the lore-hugging nut jobs are willing to overlook. Obviously, the inclusion of Protheans would be too much for them. I don't care either way.

Modifié par Felis Menari, 01 novembre 2012 - 11:46 .

[Airealite]

JusticarFlareon wrote...

To be honest, I don't want them in MP. They'll just make Javik and his story seem less important. (I can't think of the right word. ) But, this isn't about that.

If they add Protheans, all they will be is a new skin, new voice, possibly new powers or just old ones.

Will that REALLY make the game that much better? You're dividing a community in two. (Pro-lore and anti-lore. Lol Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 is teaching me so much about civil wars.)

People will just get bored of them and see them as just another class. Others will get mad and rage that they are breaking lore. (Again, to be honest, adding Protheans isn't breaking lore because Bioware creates the lore. They can make it rain ponies on Palaven and we can't say anything about it since it's their game.)

tl;dr: Protheans are just a character skin that will not be worth the trouble.

Ya lost me.

[kipac]

To people who are saying MP is not related to lore,
It's actually related 'cause MP is featuring battles of N7 around the galaxy
that are happening while Shepard is doing his jobs.
That's why you get readiness bonus from it.
Just so you know, that's a fact.
But, personally, I don't really care about lore.

[Epsilon330]

I thought the whole deal about Javik was that he is the last of his kind.
Heck, even the majority of ME1's lore - the game that is said to have the best story in the trilogy, was based around the fact that the Protheans are dead, and not coming back.
Adding an infinite army of them without warning would retroactively hurt the lore for all three games, not just ME3. Doing something similar as to how 343 Industries/Bungie did with the Forerunners in Halo as of Halo 4, though, could be feasible.
That said, I would not be in favour of it.

Besides, if ME4 does take place after the main trilogy, how would we explain/react to the Protheans walking around the galaxy acting like normal citizens with no prelude to explain it? It just isn't going to work.

Modifié par Epsilon330, 01 novembre 2012 - 11:56 .

[isocyanide]

We need Hanar is what we need. With the ability equip a gun in each tentacle and an asari lover in every port they would be unstoppable.

[StrawHatMoose]

They'd have to change some stuff in the SP section (you know, Javik, Dialogue etc), so IMO it might be a lot of work for them. And I heard that they can't alter a DLC with more DLc/patch (not sure if this is entirely true).

[StrawHatMoose]

DavorTheDragon wrote...

Whenever I see discussions on lore and MP in BSN, I always think about the Battlefield 3 Soldier.

Why? He's just a normal alliance soldier with a new skin..... With the title "Battlefield 3 Soldier". It's just a cross-promotion or whatever they call it.

[Zeroth Angel]

Nissun wrote...

I'm interested in what pro-prothean people think about the idea of adding Krogan and Salarian females to multiplayer, or what their stance on the Volus was/is.

I have no problem with female characters. Hell i even thought that the shaman was going to be female. And Volus? My only problem with them is that they are UR's.

[Clayless]

Father Superior wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Father Superior wrote...

Batarians are just reskinned Turians. Geth are just reskinned Quarians/Salarians. Quarians/Salarians are just reskinned Salarians/Quarians. Your argument is flawed on every level and your objections are founded in ignorance. Excluding the part about Javik (which has been proven to be more of a cop-out than the majority of theist arguments for the existence of a god), your entire post could have been used against the Volus, who are far more capable of breaking the suspension of disbelief than Protheans could ever be to a rational person.

If you don't want Protheans, that's fine. Just don't go around pretending that you have rational reasons for your opinion, because it is demonstrably clear that you do not.

And yet you provide no tangible evidence to back your own claim...

http://social.biowar.../index/13665128

There it is. 11 pages that refute the majority (if not all) of anti-Prothean arguments. I've posted that link in far too many threads already and it was late when I posted last night, so I forgot to include it.

You really need to learn what "refute" means.

All of that will hurt Javik's character or plain contradict canon. Clone Javik? At what point of the story did that happen and why did Javik not mention it? Why even give that speech about being the last voice of the Protheans when he knows full well that he isn't?

Same with any other situation that finds enough Protheans to put them straight into front line war. Why does Javik never mention this? It's not like this massive piece of information would just be completely ignored by the news, the Normandy, a Prothean expert who has spent half her life researching them/the Shadow Broker.

The reason I, and many others, don't want Protheans is the same reason I don't want playable unicorns that shoot magic. Maybe you don't care about lore, especially single player lore, but a lot of us here do.

Modifié par Our_Last_Scene, 01 novembre 2012 - 12:42 .

[Lucius Aelius]

Nissun wrote...

I'm interested in what pro-prothean people think about the idea of adding Krogan and Salarian females to multiplayer, or what their stance on the Volus was/is.

I'm in favor of all of it, Hanar and Elcor too (if Bioware ever feels like giving them/(any new race at all) to us, I'll happily play them).

Modifié par Lucius Aelius, 01 novembre 2012 - 02:51 .

[Eriseley]

Nissun wrote...

I'm interested in what pro-prothean people think about the idea of adding Krogan and Salarian females to multiplayer, or what their stance on the Volus was/is.

They're fine IMO.

[Rynocerous]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Javik is my favorite ME3 squadmate, both for his character and story. I am a hardcore lore nerd, and when something contradictory happens I rage with the best of them. I understand what adds and subtracts weight to a narrative (in fact, most of my threads in the SP forum involve me fussing about the narrative in one way or another).

But multiplayer is SUPPOSED to be stupid fun. I just spent three hours defending pumpkins from robo-zombies whilst splashing through acid rain puddles in my shiny pink armor.

Bring on the goddamned Protheans.

You, sir or ma'am, are now my hero.