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[tictactucrac]

Miniditka77 wrote...

To people saying that the Wraith needs a buff - no it doesn't.  However, I would welcome a ROF buff on the Wraith anyway.  It already does awesome damage for its weight, and a slight ROF buff could make it the best all-around shotgun on the game.

close range : reegar > all.

Long range : GPSG

Headshot any range : Graal (host)

It would become the best long range shotgun off host.

[Riot Inducer]

1.) Avenger: Yes it's uncommon but it is completely outclassed by every other full-auto and burst-fire weapon in the game. Uncommon shouldn't mean useless. Needs a significant damage or RoF buff.

2.) Katana: Again, uncommon shouldn't be useless. It has a good feel, falling between the Scimitar and Eviscerator but needs more damage or accuracy to give it a legitimate place.

3.) Disciple: It's niche is supposed to be a caster shotgun that can reliably stagger, that's great but it really needs to own this role. Increase it's accuracy, stagger rate/force and bump the clip size up 1-2 rounds and it'll have a better place imo.

4.) Geth Plasma SMG: It roughly fits into the same niche of the GPR (light, high RoF & Accuracy) but has a ramp up for it's fire rate that gives it a real anti-synergy with power focused classes. I think it needs to make it's ramp up more worthwhile, I recommend giving it bonus damage when ramped up like the Typhoon.

5.) Krysae: Imo the Krysae doesn't need super RoF and lower damage it needs to change to a different style of weapon. Personally I think it needs a damage boost and a reduction to clip size. If it were a single shot or 2 shot weapon it would gain a lot of synergy with reload canceling powers like Adrenaline Rush and make it a weapon for killing instead of being a CC weapon that's outclassed in that role by the Falcon.

[tictactucrac]

Riot Inducer wrote...

1.) Avenger: Yes it's uncommon but it is completely outclassed by every other full-auto and burst-fire weapon in the game. Uncommon shouldn't mean useless. Needs a significant damage or RoF buff.

2.) Katana: Again, uncommon shouldn't be useless. It has a good feel, falling between the Scimitar and Eviscerator but needs more damage or accuracy to give it a legitimate place.

3.) Disciple: It's niche is supposed to be a caster shotgun that can reliably stagger, that's great but it really needs to own this role. Increase it's accuracy, stagger rate/force and bump the clip size up 1-2 rounds and it'll have a better place imo.

4.) Geth Plasma SMG: It roughly fits into the same niche of the GPR (light, high RoF & Accuracy) but has a ramp up for it's fire rate that gives it a real anti-synergy with power focused classes. I think it needs to make it's ramp up more worthwhile, I recommend giving it bonus damage when ramped up like the Typhoon.

5.) Krysae: Imo the Krysae doesn't need super RoF and lower damage it needs to change to a different style of weapon. Personally I think it needs a damage boost and a reduction to clip size. If it were a single shot or 2 shot weapon it would gain a lot of synergy with reload canceling powers like Adrenaline Rush and make it a weapon for killing instead of being a CC weapon that's outclassed in that role by the Falcon.

Avenger is common and gold viable as main weapon.

Katana is common and gold viable as main weapon.

Modifié par tictactucrac, 01 novembre 2012 - 05:20 .

[drmoose00]

sclera wrote...

Amnesiotic wrote...
2. Wraith - People are saying that it's fine as is - Those people are wrong. It is the only UR shotgun, fine isn't good enough of an adjective. Give it a ROF buff and another shot in the clip, make it unique and worthy of that black border.

But it isn't "fine", it's probably the best shotgun in the game. 

[JLoco11]

1) Wraith's rate of fire needs a buff... which should also help it's reload problem.  It's the only UR in the game that gets outclassed by every rare weapon.

2) Scimitar needs a serious damage buff.  Takes 2 whole clips on silver to down a Scion up close.

3) Argus needs a serious damage buff, and possibly a headshot multiplier increase

4) Disciple would need an offset balance.  If it receives more damage, then it needs more weight.  Right now it's a caster weapon, rarely used for damage but obviously outclassed by a Talon or Paladin.    If they add significant damage, then it shouldn't have a 200% recharge increase.

5) Tempest needs a recoil reduction.  Compared to the Locust, GSMG & CSMG, it's all over the place.  You shouldn't have to require using a Turian to actually control the stability of the gun.

[LeTtRrZ]

1. Collector rifle (damage increase)
2. Collector sniper (needs unlimited range)
3. Collector SMG (damage increase)
4. Arc pistol (although it's probably beyond hope)
5. N7 Eagle

[Shogun Fish]

I am surprised to see so many people not listing the falcon in their top (bottom) five, honestly it's a gold weapon, it's a grenade launcher, and yet I have the falcon III and it usually takes 3 shots to kill a cannibal on silver.

[Liquid_Unicron]

I try not to ****** and moan too much about these things, but since this thread is basically an open asking of opinions here are mine.

1) Geth Pulse Rifle, needs to be just be redesigned to spray Whipped Cream. Enemies slipping on it would be more useful than that gun is even with this recent buff.
2) Geth SMG, redesigned to spray Hershey's Syrup for the same reasons as listed above.
3) Scimitar, this thing makes a .410 Gauge seem like a heavy duty round, it either needs to fire faster, or do more damage. (Not a huge amount of either, but some of either would be nice)
4) N7 Eagle could use a wee bit more damage.
5) AT-12 Raider, I like this gun, well I would like to like this gun. But that HUGE crosshair, I'd love to see it have a little more damage so that it isn't completely useless if I choose not to take the time to shove it up the enemy's anus before pullign the trigger...or cut the crosshair size about 20%.

[Scutshakes]

Shuriken (I don't even want to use it on Bronze at level X)
Scimitar
Collector Assault Rifle

[KnOxX s GoLd]

1 disciple
2 crusader
3 geth smg
4 geth pulse rifle
5 indra
these are weapons i like but cant use on anything but bronze, unless im just using them wrong. the indra is actually good, but id like to be able to use it to more effect, but i only have it at lvl 1 so that may be why. the crusader is my only promo item, and I WANT IT TO BE GOOD GODDAMNIT lol. the geth weapons arent even good on a geth, unless im using the shotgun. and i like the disciple because of its low weight, but it doesnt do a lot for me. i have no idea how to make them better, but id just like them to be better

id like to put the reegar on this list, but i stopped caring about it a while ago, and im not sure its useful or useles at all, cuz i used it once

Modifié par KnOxX s GoLd, 01 novembre 2012 - 05:57 .

[Riot Inducer]

tictactucrac wrote...

Avenger is common and gold viable as main weapon.

Katana is common and gold viable as main weapon.

Everything is gold viable as a main weapon, just requires a decent player. I use the Avenger quite often myself but that doesn't change the fact that it is mechanically outclassed by even the Shuriken.

Look, the Mantis just recieved a rather noticable buff and was already one of the most powerful common weapons, there's no good reason not to give the other common weapons some more attention.

[drmoose00]

JLoco11 wrote...

1) Wraith's rate of fire needs a buff... which should also help it's reload problem.  It's the only UR in the game that gets outclassed by every rare weapon.

that is just wrong

[Boog_89]

Revenant
Geth Pulse rifle
Striker Assault Rifle
Scimitar
Disciple

[Distilled Poison]

Oh god, the number of noobs asking for a Wraith buff is astounding. The problem isn't the Wraith, it's you.

[Schneidend]

Katana - A LOT more damage
Scimitar - More damage
Disciple - More damage
Avenger - x3 headshot multiplier
Vindicator - x3 headshot multiplier

Modifié par Schneidend, 01 novembre 2012 - 06:10 .

[CmnDwnWrkn]

Distilled Poison wrote...

Oh god, the number of noobs asking for a Wraith buff is astounding. The problem isn't the Wraith, it's you.

I'm wondering if they've even played with the Wraith lately, or if they're just asking for it to be buffed because they've seen people do this in the past?

[drmoose00]

Distilled Poison wrote...

Oh god, the number of noobs asking for a Wraith buff is astounding. The problem isn't the Wraith, it's you.

[FlashAK]

Shogun Fish wrote...

I am surprised to see so many people not listing the falcon in their top (bottom) five, honestly it's a gold weapon, it's a grenade launcher, and yet I have the falcon III and it usually takes 3 shots to kill a cannibal on silver.

The Falcon isn't a heavy hitter, you use it to CC and apply ammo effects. You can lock down entire groups with its reliable stagger, and it sets up easy tech explosions.

On a separate note, I'm surprised at all the calls for a Wraith buff since it's one of the best shotguns in the game. I'd welcome a RoF buff, but it definitely isn't necessary. You're doing something wrong if you're not effective with it. That gun has an excellent damage/weight ratio, and it has great range with the smart choke mod. Even though I only have it at IV, I use the Wraith on the majority of my characters these days, and it's one of top 5 UR cards I'm always looking forward to in packs.

[Plazma1337]

Scimitar - More Damage, even on bronze this weapon is weak.
Diciple - Works nice on bronze, but that's all. - More damage.
Incisor - Needs, more damage and a lower recoil. It's better to use the Argus instead of the incisor.
Eviscerator - Needs a higher rate of fire.
Katana - Needs also a higher rate of fire.

There are some more weapons which would need a buff:

The Particle Rifle, a bit more Damage.
The Shuriken ... You all know it. There's nothing to say. The Shuriken in ME2 was nice but now..

[jlee375]

Shogun Fish wrote...

I am surprised to see so many people not listing the falcon in their top (bottom) five, honestly it's a gold weapon, it's a grenade launcher, and yet I have the falcon III and it usually takes 3 shots to kill a cannibal on silver.

The Falcon makes up for its admittedly mediocre damage output by being one of, if not the best crowd control weapon. If you time your shots correctly (right after they recover from the backwards stagger, the rhythm is a bit slower than the weapons natural rate of fire), you can keep one or a group of enemies staggered for the entire clip. Couple this with its ability to apply ammo effects, it is highly effective on classes that naturally lack the means to deal with large groups of enemies as you can freeze/prime many targets and delay their advance. 

I like to take a Falcon into any match with geth and have them experience the helplessness of being stunlocked. 

On a related note, my five:

1. Eviscerator: It is incredibly accurate but fires so slowly as a tradeoff, I suppose. However, I think it should have a slight ROF buff. 

2. Disciple: Damage buff, I know it is a caster shotgun, but can you actually kill things with this thing? The Wraith is a much better choice for CD conscious classes as it stands. 

3. Scimitar: I really like the gun, but it just seems largely unusable. Not sure what would be the best way to fix this.

4. Locust: I know they recently buffed the headshot modifier, but I think it could still use a slight boost to damage, perhaps. 

5. Phaeston: I know we aren't going to get the marauder's phaeston, but I think the gun could use a small buff. 

[FlashAK]

Distilled Poison wrote...

Oh god, the number of noobs asking for a Wraith buff is astounding. The problem isn't the Wraith, it's you.

This man speaks the truth.

[Janus382]

Disciple
Disciple
Disciple
Disciple
Disciple

Honorable Mention
Disciple

EDIT:  The Wraith?  Seriously?!  That might be the most balanced shotgun in the game.

Modifié par Janus382, 01 novembre 2012 - 06:22 .

[JLoco11]

lemon00 wrote...

JLoco11 wrote...

1) Wraith's rate of fire needs a buff... which should also help it's reload problem.  It's the only UR in the game that gets outclassed by every rare weapon.

that is just wrong

What's wrong?  The Wraith is the only UR shotty we have, and is outclassed in every way by the Reegar, Piranha, Claymore, GPS and Raider.  Reegar & Piranha weigh less and do more damage.  Claymore does more damage with a reload cancel.  GPS has the ability to snipe enemies across the map and even the Raider is a 2 shot weapon has the ability reload cancel.

The Wraith has no advantage over any of these weapons.  Not damage, not weight and certainly made worse by it's reload problem due to the rate of fire slowdown.

[FlashAK]

Plazma1337 wrote...

There are some more weapons which would need a buff:

The Particle Rifle, a bit more Damage.

I'm not sure if you're serious or just trolling but, for your sake, I hope you're kidding. The PPR is easily one of the strongest weapons in the game and a weapon of sheer destruction.

[Plazma1337]

In my opinion this gun is a bit weak. I haven't played much with it, because of this.