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[JLoco11]

Distilled Poison wrote...

Oh god, the number of noobs asking for a Wraith buff is astounding. The problem isn't the Wraith, it's you.

There is a problem with the Wraith, and that's the unresponsiveness when it comes to manual reloads because Bioware has built in a slowdown time for each shot.

Much like the Krysae and Acolyte.  The problem is easily fixed without a patch by increasing the rate of fire.  The damage isn't an issue, the mechanics of the gun need to be patched.

And since that only happens once every 5 months, the only logical fix is a rate of fire increase.

[AkuIaTubShark]

Disciple - Damage
Krysae - RoF, AoE radius, damage (Seriously, this is a hella fun sniper to use, but it's a pain killing things with it)
Eagle - Slight damage buff, maybe RoF.
Paladin - +1 Clip size
GPSMG - Damage buff

[Janus382]

JLoco11 wrote...

What's wrong?  The Wraith is the only UR shotty we have, and is outclassed in every way by the Reegar, Piranha, Claymore, GPS and Raider.  Reegar & Piranha weigh less and do more damage.  Claymore does more damage with a reload cancel.  GPS has the ability to snipe enemies across the map and even the Raider is a 2 shot weapon has the ability reload cancel.

The Wraith has no advantage over any of these weapons.  Not damage, not weight and certainly made worse by it's reload problem due to the rate of fire slowdown.

The Wraith is more accurate at range than Reegar, Piranha, and Raider.  The Wraith has at least one advantage over every other shotgun concerning weight, accuracy, or power.

[CapnManx]

I'm not really all that adventurous with my weapon choices, and there are a lot of things I haven't tried out; so these might seem like odd picks to some people...

1) Arc Pistol. It'd be a fairly decent light pistol, except that it isn't light at all; and the damage of the charged shot isn't really powerful enough to justify this disadvantage. Reduce weight, or increase charged shot damage.

2) Phaeston. A great blend of accuracy, light weight, and capacity, with damage that seems absolutely spot on for Silver level play; problem is, there isn't anything quite like it for higher difficulties. The Harrier's capacity is too low, and the Revenant is not a precision tool; and both are too heavy to serve as a proper upgrade to the Phaeston anyway. A slight damage buff to make it more user friendly on Gold (alternatively, make the Revenant lighter and more accurate; with the Harrier and Typhoon, its niche is getting a little too crowded anyway).

3) Hornet. I used to think this gun was pretty good; but now I'm trying to complete the challenges for it. It's taking forever. It's downright painful. Needs a damage buff.

4) Mattock. A good gun in most respects, but a little disappointing when it counts. More a marksman's battle rifle than a proper assault rifle, it really does feel like it should have some kind of extra bonus to head-shot damage.

5) Eviscerator. Another gun that seem pretty good right up until you try to take it past Silver difficulty (at which point to just becomes depressing). Nice tight spread if used properly, but could use a damage buff.

Honestly, I think the best solution to most of this would simply be to allow weapons to scale to the difficulty level; but buffs would do.

[Distilled Poison]

Reegar & Piranha weigh less and do more damage.

Wrong, Piranha weighs the same, with far less range. Their damage up close is similar, but the Wraith delivers it all in one shot. At range there is no competition. The Reegar weighs more and is in need of a serious damage nerf. The Reegar is overpowered.

Claymore does more damage with a reload cancel.

Only slightly, and only assuming all pellets hit. The Claymore also weighs more than twice as much with a quarter the range. The Claymore is only a better choice on Infiltrators, and not by much.

GPS has the ability to snipe enemies across the map

So does the Wraith, but the Wraith weighs less and can deliver headshots and never needs to be charged.

the Raider is a 2 shot weapon has the ability reload cancel.

So can the Wraith?

Other benefits: The Wraith applies ammo effects easily, and does not require sustained fire to get kills with, and has unbelievable range, making it the safest shotgun.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

JLoco11 wrote...

lemon00 wrote...

JLoco11 wrote...

1) Wraith's rate of fire needs a buff... which should also help it's reload problem.  It's the only UR in the game that gets outclassed by every rare weapon.

that is just wrong

What's wrong?  The Wraith is the only UR shotty we have, and is outclassed in every way by the Reegar, Piranha, Claymore, GPS and Raider.  Reegar & Piranha weigh less and do more damage.  Claymore does more damage with a reload cancel.  GPS has the ability to snipe enemies across the map and even the Raider is a 2 shot weapon has the ability reload cancel.

The Wraith has no advantage over any of these weapons.  Not damage, not weight and certainly made worse by it's reload problem due to the rate of fire slowdown.

What are you talking about?  It is lighter than every one of the weapons you listed.  It is more accurate than every one as well except for the GPS.

[JLoco11]

Janus382 wrote...

JLoco11 wrote...

What's wrong?  The Wraith is the only UR shotty we have, and is outclassed in every way by the Reegar, Piranha, Claymore, GPS and Raider.  Reegar & Piranha weigh less and do more damage.  Claymore does more damage with a reload cancel.  GPS has the ability to snipe enemies across the map and even the Raider is a 2 shot weapon has the ability reload cancel.

The Wraith has no advantage over any of these weapons.  Not damage, not weight and certainly made worse by it's reload problem due to the rate of fire slowdown.

The Wraith is more accurate at range than Reegar, Piranha, and Raider.  The Wraith has at least one advantage over every other shotgun concerning weight, accuracy, or power.

It has no advantage over a Piranha or GPS for weight, distance or DPS.  Only thing it has on the GPS is piercing abilities.

It only has a distance advantage over a Reegar or Raider, however, if you're rolling with a shotgun, chances are you're not sniping enemies across the map.

It has a weight advantage over a Claymore.  However, neither weapon is ideal for a power caster and used on classes not dependent upon weight (Infiltrators, Vorcha, Krogan, Destroyer etc).  In which case, it can't compete with the claymore's power and reload cancel ability.

That's not exactly a high quality Ultra Rare weapon.  No other class of guns has an Ultra rare that underachieves this badly compared to the rare counterparts.

[FlashAK]

JLoco11 wrote...

lemon00 wrote...

JLoco11 wrote...

1) Wraith's rate of fire needs a buff... which should also help it's reload problem.  It's the only UR in the game that gets outclassed by every rare weapon.

that is just wrong

What's wrong?  The Wraith is the only UR shotty we have, and is outclassed in every way by the Reegar, Piranha, Claymore, GPS and Raider.  Reegar & Piranha weigh less and do more damage.  Claymore does more damage with a reload cancel.  GPS has the ability to snipe enemies across the map and even the Raider is a 2 shot weapon has the ability reload cancel.

The Wraith has no advantage over any of these weapons.  Not damage, not weight and certainly made worse by it's reload problem due to the rate of fire slowdown.

The Wraith at I weighs less than the Reegar at X.  The Piranha only weighs less than a Wraith I at level VI, and they even out at X.

The Wraith is very light, packs a punch and is extremely accurate at range with the smart choke mod. The Raider and Piranha are very innacurate and only effective at close range. The Reegar is also seriously hampered by range, and the Claymore (possibly the only shotgun I prefer over the Wraith) is one of the heaviest weapons in the game. The GPS is heavier and can, at times, be almost unusable with lag.

If you can aim well, the gun is amazing. Power-dependent classes can take advantage of its low weight and damage to great effect. Get into a shoot / power / shoot rhythm to mitigate the RoF.

[doozerdude]

hurricane, typhoon, talon, geth plasma shotgun, and javelin

[JLoco11]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

JLoco11 wrote...

lemon00 wrote...

JLoco11 wrote...

1) Wraith's rate of fire needs a buff... which should also help it's reload problem.  It's the only UR in the game that gets outclassed by every rare weapon.

that is just wrong

What's wrong?  The Wraith is the only UR shotty we have, and is outclassed in every way by the Reegar, Piranha, Claymore, GPS and Raider.  Reegar & Piranha weigh less and do more damage.  Claymore does more damage with a reload cancel.  GPS has the ability to snipe enemies across the map and even the Raider is a 2 shot weapon has the ability reload cancel.

The Wraith has no advantage over any of these weapons.  Not damage, not weight and certainly made worse by it's reload problem due to the rate of fire slowdown.

What are you talking about?  It is lighter than every one of the weapons you listed.  It is more accurate than every one as well except for the GPS.

Throw a smart choke on each weapon, and accuracy is neglible (except for the GPS which is a different mechanic). 

[Distilled Poison]

JLoco11

It has no advantage over a Piranha or GPS for weight, distance or DPS.

Holy s**t, you have absolutely no idea what you're saying. You are so factually wrong it hurts.

[Distilled Poison]

It only has a distance advantage over a Reegar or Raider,

Oh my god, how can you be so horribly incorrect.

It has a weight advantage over a Claymore.  However, neither weapon is ideal for a power caster

YOU GET MORE WRONG EVERY TIME YOU POST WOW

[AkuIaTubShark]

JLoco11 wrote...

Janus382 wrote...

JLoco11 wrote...

What's wrong?  The Wraith is the only UR shotty we have, and is outclassed in every way by the Reegar, Piranha, Claymore, GPS and Raider.  Reegar & Piranha weigh less and do more damage.  Claymore does more damage with a reload cancel.  GPS has the ability to snipe enemies across the map and even the Raider is a 2 shot weapon has the ability reload cancel.

The Wraith has no advantage over any of these weapons.  Not damage, not weight and certainly made worse by it's reload problem due to the rate of fire slowdown.

The Wraith is more accurate at range than Reegar, Piranha, and Raider.  The Wraith has at least one advantage over every other shotgun concerning weight, accuracy, or power.

It has no advantage over a Piranha or GPS for weight, distance or DPS.  Only thing it has on the GPS is piercing abilities.

It only has a distance advantage over a Reegar or Raider, however, if you're rolling with a shotgun, chances are you're not sniping enemies across the map.

It has a weight advantage over a Claymore.  However, neither weapon is ideal for a power caster and used on classes not dependent upon weight (Infiltrators, Vorcha, Krogan, Destroyer etc).  In which case, it can't compete with the claymore's power and reload cancel ability.

That's not exactly a high quality Ultra Rare weapon.  No other class of guns has an Ultra rare that underachieves this badly compared to the rare counterparts.

Er. Sorry to burst your bubble... But I've two-shot enemies with the Raider from across large maps (Hydra, Rio [From the middle room to the back crates] and Dagger from below the middle room to the right spawn).
I do also prefer the Raider over the Wraith, mainly for the RoF difference but the Wraith does outclass it highly in that more pellets hit per shot then the Raider. 
Note: My Wraith is at 6, and thought I'd toss my opinion in seeing as how everyone else is in this thread.

[drmoose00]

JLoco11 wrote...



What's wrong?  The Wraith is the only UR shotty we have, and is outclassed in every way by the Reegar, Piranha, Claymore, GPS and Raider.  Reegar & Piranha weigh less and do more damage.  Claymore does more damage with a reload cancel.  GPS has the ability to snipe enemies across the map and even the Raider is a 2 shot weapon has the ability reload cancel.

The Wraith has no advantage over any of these weapons.  Not damage, not weight and certainly made worse by it's reload problem due to the rate of fire slowdown.

well, the reegar def does not weigh less, and unless you are 2 feet away, it is useless. The piranha weioghs the same, and certainly does more DPS, but who cars. I can generally one shot a mook with ahead shot.

And I never use the piranha anyway - feels like a noob gun to me

as far as the other shotguns go, sure there are ones that do more damage, but nothing with the damage/weight ratio and nothing with the accuracy (except the crusader). I wouldn't take it on a soldier, and prob not an infiltrator, but any power dep class it is perfect on

just my opinion, but if you think it is that bad, you are just doing it wrong

Modifié par lemon00, 01 novembre 2012 - 06:53 .

[JLoco11]

Distilled Poison wrote...

JLoco11

It has no advantage over a Piranha or GPS for weight, distance or DPS.

Holy s**t, you have absolutely no idea what you're saying. You are so factually wrong it hurts.

It weighs the same has a Piranha... It weighs sleightly less than a GPS at level X.

Yet the GPS can charge the first shot, fire the other 3 AND reload cancel.  Wraith doesn't match that speed and damage in the time in takes to reload.

Piranha can get off 2 full clips before the Wraith has reloaded a second clip.  And the worst part about the Wraith is that even with the GI and Destroyer speeding up the ROF, it still waits for a normal slowdown to reload. 

The problem isn't the damage, it's the ROF that I said in my intial post.  Keep up.

[FlashAK]

Plazma1337 wrote...

In my opinion this gun is a bit weak. I haven't played much with it, because of this.

Try it on a Destroyer specced for mag size and slap on the magazine upgrade/piercing mod or HVB if you have it. Incendiary ammo is also probably the best ammo to use with it, although any of the different ammos (at least the original ones) can be effective to a degree.

Perhaps you don't understand the mechanics of the gun. It has a charge up that kicks in after about 50 (I believe) on the ammo counter, and then a 4x damage multiplier kicks in for this "hot" mode. That's when the gun does the most damage. With its pinpoint accuracy, aim for the head and melt through everything. Just make sure you never reach 0 on the ammo counter, otherwise you go into the long reload animation.

[Huntsvillian]

falcon (clips size/ slight damage)
Eagle (damage)
Mattock (damage or make headshot damage mods easier to get lol)
Striker (less recoil or improved damage)
Locust (damage)

i dont know why people are saying the revanant i love using that gun

[UKStory135]

1. Disciple.
2. Incisor
3. Scimitar
4. Phaeston
5. Striker

[-Tentei-]

Avenger (more damage)
Renevent (slightly more accuracy, more damage)
Scorpian (more damage, make it N7 worthy)
Eagle (needs way more damage, right now uncommons are better then it)
Argus (needs stability)

Modifié par -Tentei-, 01 novembre 2012 - 06:55 .

[Lady Mortho]

Argus (Wieight decrease and damage)
M-8 Avenger (Damage increase)

[Miniditka77]

AkuIaTubShark wrote...

Er. Sorry to burst your bubble... But I've two-shot enemies with the Raider from across large maps (Hydra, Rio [From the middle room to the back crates] and Dagger from below the middle room to the right spawn).

Swarmers don't count.

[JLoco11]

lemon00 wrote...

JLoco11 wrote...



What's wrong?  The Wraith is the only UR shotty we have, and is outclassed in every way by the Reegar, Piranha, Claymore, GPS and Raider.  Reegar & Piranha weigh less and do more damage.  Claymore does more damage with a reload cancel.  GPS has the ability to snipe enemies across the map and even the Raider is a 2 shot weapon has the ability reload cancel.

The Wraith has no advantage over any of these weapons.  Not damage, not weight and certainly made worse by it's reload problem due to the rate of fire slowdown.

well, the reegar def does not weigh less, and unless you are 2 feet away, it is useless. The piranha weioghs the same, and certainly does more DPS, but who cars. I can generally one shot a mook with ahead shot.

And I never use the piranha anyway - feels like a noob gun to me

as far as the other shotguns go, sure there are ones that do more damage, but nothing with the damage/weight ratio and nothing with the accuracy (except the crusader). I wouldn't take it on a soldier, and prob not an infiltrator, but any power dep class it is perfect on

just my opinion, but if you think it is that bad, you are just doing it wrong

Never said it was bad... I said the rate of fire is the main problem with the gun that causes a UR to be outclassed by the rare weapons it should supercede.

Reegar does what it's supposed to do, melt enemies.  Like all guns, it's not meant for every class, it's meant for a CQC class where it excels (I.E Kroguards and Vorcha).  Piranha, whether you think it's a noob gun, does far more damage.

[IC-07]

Give Harrier more ammo. At least +50.

[Huntsvillian]

make a smg worth playing, i cant remember the last time ive actually wanted to use one

[AkuIaTubShark]

Miniditka77 wrote...

AkuIaTubShark wrote...

Er. Sorry to burst your bubble... But I've two-shot enemies with the Raider from across large maps (Hydra, Rio [From the middle room to the back crates] and Dagger from below the middle room to the right spawn).

Swarmers don't count.

I wasn't counting them... But if you want too, we can majorly increase the numbers (I usually don't even waste ammo on them unless it's the end of the wave myself). But I was meaning Husks, Cannibals etc. The basic and above basic units. However, that was also before Retaliation hit and I've yet to use it again since.