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[bclagge]

Knowing that the team you just played with will NEVER be able to survive a Gold match without you?  Sure, somebody good could come along, but odds are they won't and the team will fail miserably and everyone will rage.  All because you left.  Seems a pretty regular occurance for me.  I play almost exclusively PUGs.

Now, a thread like this would never be complete without a cool-story-bro to go along with it, so here goes.  I had to complete a couple more extractions on Ghost today for the challenge, so I wound up in a Hazard Ghost, Unknown, Gold lobby.  First game was Cerberus.  I was playing a Mattock wielding Drell Adept.  Wave 6 rolls around and is an eliminate the target round.  By the time I personally kill the first two targets, two of my team mates have gone down and refused to use gels and prompty got stomped by some Dragoons.  My remaining team mate keeps dropping despite my attempts to stand him back up, and I wind up just rocketing the final two, as I realized my gels and ops packs aren't going to last at this rate.

I'm not going to drone on about every remaining rounds; let's just say it didn't go so well.  By the extraction wave, which is the whole point of this affair, my team mates decide camping the LZ is a bright idea.  I decide that as long as I am able to extract, we all win, so I tried to draw some baddies to the far side of the map hoping to take some heat off my team mates, while more importantly surviving.  They died anyway.  I made it into the extraction circle with just my health gate left.

Against my better judgement I stayed for a second match which went nearly the same way, but against Reapers.  Again, I was the Lone Survivor with just health gate, which was a miracle because I'd burned literally every consumable I had at this point.

TL;DR/Conclusion:  I knew my team was going to be unable to hack it without me.  Even though they weren't very good, they tried their damnedest.  I liked them.  And I felt bad about leaving, but I had to go.  Anyone else struck with guilt about abondoning crummy pubs?

[RaptorSolutions]

Do they still refuse to gel later?

[bclagge]

RaptorSolutions wrote...

Do they still refuse to gel later?

Two of them never used gels AFAIK, but fortunately they did bust out some rockets in the wave 10 hack.

[Shezo]

Nope, no guilt, only irritations and slight butthurt about burning through so much medigel and rockets.
It's just isn't fair, that you're trying to play superman, spending consumables and they just "lol-nope-i-wont-medigel".

[Deucetipher]

Honestly, never. My more typical reaction is irritation that they are playing difficulties beyond their skill levels.

[RaptorSolutions]

bclagge wrote...

RaptorSolutions wrote...

Do they still refuse to gel later?

Two of them never used gels AFAIK, but fortunately they did bust out some rockets in the wave 10 hack.

Well, on the one hand they try, on the other it seems they just aren't cut out for it...

[Scutshakes]

Only when I'm host. I wouldn't wish another loading screen to the worst of my enemies, unfortunately..this is necessary.

[Suzaku4489]

I always feel bad... about losing all of those consumables for no reward. The rest of the group can get eaten by rabid varren for all I'd care.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Nope, I don't feel bad. I have no obligations towards them.

And you shouldn't feel bad.

Real life takes precedence over a game in any case.

[Grinch57]

I leave, but usually it is with a pug that succeeds at one level, but they are not very good and to a large degree I carry them. I'm willing to continue with them at that level. Then the host gets the bright idea to kick it up a level. I may be guilty of hubris, but in my mind, I'm thinking the host is expecting me to carry them at the next level, where they will score extra credits because of me. So I leave.  If I'm going to solo, then I'll solo.  But carrying a group at a level they do not belong in, that is not fun for me and I play the game to have fun.

Modifié par Grinch57, 01 novembre 2012 - 11:22 .

[Cyonan]

Nope. Don't feel bad.

We all knew going into it that the squad was only a temporary arrangement.

[Chemicalist]

Just hide and let all the baddies congregate at the LZ. Let all the dimwits die and then rocket the LZ as you run to victory. It's on them if they ****** at the LZ while you've done all the work the entire match.

[lazy_dog12]

If they're trying then I would not have mind staying, but no gel?! I would not feel bad for leaving ppl who doesn't gel.

[Learn To Love Yourself]

Would you feel bad not giving money to a drug addict? Yes, that's rather extreme, but enabling applies in ME3 MP, too. If you are constantly carrying lesser players, especially medigel hoarders (or people who refuse to by JEPs... the worst crime imaginable), then they will always feel like they are okay playing in harder difficulties.

Now, if they were just less skilled, and still wisely used as many of their consumables as necessary, then that may be a different story. I know how you feel. That's very nice of you, but you shouldn't feel guilty.

If you really do feel guilty and want to continue carrying these folks, send them friend requests. Hopefully, your guilt won't turn into frustration and resentment.

Modifié par Jack Crapper, 01 novembre 2012 - 11:24 .

[eye basher]

i never play with the same people twice.

[QU67]

I feel bad if I leave another person to carry a team. Other than that, not really. I play to get some creds... and laugh at stupid teammates.

[Praidas]

 No

[Beta Commando]

Hardly, I know that sometimes it is fun to carry some new players on harder difficulties so that they can get some exp, money and can see what they are all about. Yes it not very wise to do so as it tends to burn all your supplies but time to times, I help them get something easily. However, I never feel bad for my team if I leave from the lobby, they do need to understand that Gold and Platinum aren´t challenges that are so easily won without a good player and that they should not stick to that level of challenge immediately.

[Dontai777]

only as a host do i feel bad, it makes everyone wait for the migration. i hate when that happens myself.

[Dracian]

Never, because when I go for PUG games, I always host. And I know everyone will hit the Exit button when I'll leave my lobby.

[paranoio]

 *Sings* "SAFE YORSELF A PENNY FOR THE FAIRYMAN - SAVEYOURSELF AND LET THEM SUFFER!!!!" if they cant handle a member down, thoy should never go gold!!!

[Janus382]

 Nope.  If I'm required for the group to win, they made their own bed.
Besides, I like to think that once I leave the lobby, they all quit too, and go reevaluate their lives. :innocent:

[Zero132132]

Only when they're only just barely below the skill level necessary, and they were making a genuine effort. People that never use equipment mostly sound like leachers to me.

When I DO feel bad is when I'm clearly carrying some PUGs and I get instakilled. It's the same they-won't-make-it-without-me thing, but you have to actually watch it happen. The last one is always clearly panicking, too, no idea how they ended up in this situation or what to do as enemies swarm them from all sides.

[RequiemPrime]

I sure don't.

Even today while completing the Challenges for the GPR, had the same thing happen to me. 3 consecutive waves, one of them being an objective wave, they go down and refuse to gel. So I am having to clutch them myself. The last time it happened, they all went down again and let themselves be executed, was the first time I went down. Decided not to gel, since apparently Medi-Gel apparently seems to have gained UR status.

Modifié par Angelwave, 01 novembre 2012 - 11:38 .