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[Zero132132]

Decided to give this class another shot, since I'd only really tried them on one game, and I'm sort of working towards challenges and wanted to add to his extractions while finishing out Nomad. Before, Havok Strike basically kept throwing me into ****ty situations, so this time, I spec'd out of it, went full damage-taken increase on cryo blast, full weapon/headshot damage in the racial passive, stimpacks for shields/capacity/weapon damage, and fitness for survivability. I threw a Claymore with a smart choke and HVB on and went at it.

It worked fine. Ended up carrying a PUG or two clearing Goddess (great grenade map), although I failed a bit more on Reactor. The entire time, though, it just felt like I was playing a gimped version of the Turian Infiltrator or a gimped version of the Human Infiltrator, depending on if it was a 'OMFG I NEED TO TAP LB BEFORE I DIE!' wave or a 'MUAHAHAHAHA, FREEZE ****ES!' wave. There wasn't much unique about the experience, and all-in-all, it was pretty meh.

Someone out there must have a good idea of how to make this class work, right? Anyone care to share fun Havoc builds? Don't know that I want to feel like a gimped HI for another 5 games.

[kmmd60]

Got 3 builds for havoc.
1. Cryo soldier - spec out of havoc strike and max weapon damage.
2. Dual strike - spec out of cryoblast. Havoc/melee combo kill everything.
3. Hybrid havoc - 6/6/6/4/4 spec both cryo and havoc

Dual strike means you will be in the thick, which is often too thick, of thing almost all the time. And there're multiple sync-kill enemies that I prefer to tackle from range. However, it's very good if you know how to havoc cancel.

The hybrid build is my build of choice. Cryoblast is too good debuff to be passed since
It has multiplicative damage bonus. You still be able to use havoc strIke to rush in and save teammate/stagger enemies to come too close. However, your melee/durability/weapon damage from passive will be a bit gimped. Spec stimpack for 4000 extra shield is a very good idea.

Havoc is hard to master for a soldier kit. However, he's undoubtly more interesting than his brother, TGI.

[darthxaher]

I use this one: http://narida.pytalh...6p9FE@@E4C4I4H4

I bit unconventional, I made it this way because I wanted a completely different build from my TGI. For mooks, Acolyte + Cryo Blast + havoc strike. For bosses, I try to keep distance, Cryo blast + PPR shoot, armored bosses go down really quick because of Cryo blast debuff. I have only 4 points in Stim Pack but that is enough to get me out of hairy situations.

Theoretical damage boost is pretty high: 30% (Armiger Legion), 17.5% (Stim Pack), 25% (Havoc Strike), 25% (Cryo Blast), although you rarely would be able to get all these bonus at the same time, nonetheless, I do OK on silver/gold. Give it a try.

Many people try a melee build on this as well, if that suits your play-style give that a try as well.

[Ogelia]

i using cryo build, speced for max debuf with cryo and max weapon dmg is prety good with wrath its melt everything what dont have shield or bariers

[KeeperB5]

Why spec into fitness though? You could run with 6/6/6/6/0 build. This is because as far as I know, stimulant pack shield is unaffected by fitness. So the best fitness does, is give that extra second to apply stimulant pack. Then roll with grenade gear and you should have enough stims to last a full round.

Of course, fitness has melee evolutions which are important if you plan to havoc + melee. But it's really risky move. I'd suggest dodging away right after havoc in case there is a sync kill capable enemy nearby, and it also gives you the opportunity to apply stims to recover shields.

[MrScottBear]

Right now I run
http://narida.pytalh...es/#17RLMFFt9@0[EIIa4O4%400%400

Though, I've been debating a zero fitness build.

[FreedTMG]

http://narida.pytalh...9@0EECOC4D4@0@0

I tend to run that, half tank half offensive. The only time I touch havoc Strike is for mobility purposes. Armor piercing ammo and cryo blast together he drops anything. It is my current go to character next to the Krogan Sentinal.

[Brawling_fairies]

When you use certain class you want to utilize unique qualities it possess right?
That's why you play melee Havoc. In fact Raider melee Havoc was my DLC day build (and I was running it against new collectors faction on gold for teh lulz) and it turned out rather well. I tried several different builds with most successful being health fitness/melee synergy/all shields stimpack/Reegar (played it with novaguard/asari vanguard/fury group - synch nova/jetmelee surely something great) but in the end returned to my first all melee build. Too much fun with that ridiculous jetpack melee.

[RaalTheWyvern]

Here's my build, and I do perfectly on any difficulty, any enemy. I pretty much always top the scoreboard, and I never die while using this:

Havoc Strike: 6 (Bottom, bottom, top).
Stimulant Pack: 6 (Bottom, top, bottom).
Armiger Legion: 6 (Bottom, top, bottom).
Fitness: 6 (Top, bottom, bottom).

I usually use my Eagle V with Piercing/Stunner V's for piercing cover and melee damage boosts, but you'll usually want a lightweight weapon that has a melee mod (You're going to want 200% recharge speed). For gear, I really recommend Juggernaut Shield V, but any melee or shield gear will do. Simply Havoc Strike a target/group, and heavy melee. Then, you can choose to immediatly strike again, or dodge away to plan your next move. Stim Pack in case your shields go down or you need additional damage.

[RaXelliX]

This is what is use: narida.pytalhost.com/me3/classes/#17RDJNRB3%400FECLC4D4%400%400
Skip the last evo on stim pack and put only half into havoc strike. Go for max debuff on cryo and max weapon damage on armiger and max heath on fitness. I still think havoc strike either needs a buff to be useful or this turian needs base health/shields buff to be more durable. Henche skipping fitness would be a bad idea.

[reaperteck]

I skip havoc strike and spec fitness for melee. Basically cryo blast everything, then for mooks jetpack in and heavy melee (area shatter). For bosses, shoot graal. Stay mobile to avoid being swamped. This works well on silver, never tried it on gold

[JustinSonic]

I had my Cyro at 3, but I never really use it. Havok Strike and the Stim-Packs are going to be your greatest ally with the character.

[seireikhaan]

Made me start thinking, how about a 3/6/6/6/5 build? I'm really not a fan of havoc strike as a primary attacking mechanism, but it does have escape utility which, imo, would vastly outweigh the last rank in fitness.

[RaXelliX]

Melee might work on lower difficulties but it will get you killed very fast past gold. Especially if speccing out of fitness.

[Lamiaaa]

I went 6/6/6/0/6 melee build

I'm mainly a silver player, I'll fight geth on gold with this build though

Modifié par Lamiaaa, 02 novembre 2012 - 08:05 .

[bogsters23]

my Turian havoc build

6 stims - max shields, capacity, weapon damage
6 cryo - radius, cryo explosion, frozen vulnerability
6 havoc - force&damage, weapon synergy, incendiary strike
4 passives - damage & capacity
4 fitness - health

weapon - wraith with smart choke and HVB - i'm just tired of piranha 
gear - shock trooper
 
use incendiary ammo - you can detonate fire explosions thru havoc strike.  
highly survivable on gold.  

Modifié par bogsters23, 02 novembre 2012 - 08:12 .

[Brawling_fairies]

RaXelliX wrote...
Melee might work on lower difficulties but it will get you killed very fast past gold. Especially if speccing out of fitness.

Actually no. You can use havoc strike and melee very much like novaguard. No shield regen without stimpack for you but neither you need shields for AoE melee. You just have to use stim prior to strike in serious situations for shield boost. And you dont' melee geth much so you bring real weapon along. Also build-depending you can stagger gold bosses with havoc strike you know?

seireikhaan wrote...
Made me start thinking, how about a 3/6/6/6/5 build? I'm really not a fan of havoc strike as a primary attacking mechanism, but it does have escape utility which, imo, would vastly outweigh the last rank in fitness.

Same as above. You can stagger phantoms and bosses with strike which is great for hit'n'run with Reegar.

Modifié par Ambruazovich, 02 novembre 2012 - 08:23 .

[Salarian Master Race]

I'm thinking 6/6/6/4/4 to get some weapon damage, power damage,and weight bonuses.  6/6/6/0/6 just doesn't recharge fast enough after Cryo Blast.  And Ranks 5&6 of Melee Fitness, well it is rarely the Melee that kills enemies anyway, so that Rank is actually going to waste most of the time.

 

I'm packing a Venom with Omni Blade.  Cryo Blast, Charge the Venom, do the Havoc Strike/Melee combo, which automatically releases the Venom for a 3 hit combo of flaming jetpack doom.  It worked pretty well in a Bronze Solo, next time I'll try adding an immediate Heavy Melee after all of that and see how it goes.

[MajorStupidity]

I run a melee build it is quite fun and can actually hold its own up to gold (don't play platinum so I am not sure there).

[Salarian Master Race]

Mine is more of a hybrid

 

I like to be prepared for anything.  Cryo Blast IMO is too good a debuff to ignore.  There's really not enough points for this guy, everything is good.

[PatrickBateman]

However you play him I definately recommend using havoc strike as that's the only thing that make him unique.

Sure, speccing out of it and maxing everything else works very good, but then he just plays as a gimped TGI, and where is the fun in that?

[Terminator Force]

For some reason it always feels like I need this kit set to melee. Because for some reason every time I do a Havoc strike, it feels empty if I don't follow it with a melee. Even if I play most of a match without Havoc Strike, that one time I do do it, I better have a damaging enough melee follow up. Think part of the reason is also the dmg reduction from his melee too? ((PS - on 360 he's always all 6 glitched (none are glitched on PS3 must maintain that 120 N7 glory), so it's perfectly fine for him to be only melee based then go and do something like slap a Spitfire X on him for only shooting action. That's the beauty of the all 6 glitch. ie respec card saver since BioWare thinks it's funny not to drop them enough times))

 

So yeah, everytime I spec him out of melee, feels like I screwed him up...

 

 

... By the way, does anyone not choose Incindiary Strike on Havoc strike?

[The NightMan Cometh]

Turian Havoc's suck.  They are water downed versions of the Ghost. Kill yo self then spec the Havoc.

[Salarian Master Race]

 

 

... By the way, does anyone not choose Incindiary Strike on Havoc strike?

 

Here is a Gold Marauder Shields vs my 6/6/6/4/4 Disruptor Omni Blade Melee Venom Strength Enhancer Havoc Strike Turian Havoc Soldier:

 

 

Now imagine there were 3 of him.

[Terminator Force]

Here is a Gold Marauder Shields vs my 6/6/6/4/4 Disruptor Omni Blade Melee Venom Strength Enhancer Havoc Strike Turian Havoc Soldier:

 

 

Now imagine there were 3 of him.

 

Oh wow! That was sweet! Didn't even know something like this could be done. Good man, SMR.