Just Cav wrote...
I never used the word "overpowered". I merely pointed out that Marksman is going to be capable of incredible damage output. You're enviably optimistic if you believe that Marksman and Tactical Scan won't perform so well together that something is bound to be nerfed.
Arppis wrote...
Sabotage.
Just Cav wrote...
A relevantly-specced Marksman and Tactical Scan working together will provide:paperbook wrote...
Why is TS+Marksman OP?
►25% damage increase from all sources
►7.5% weapon damage
►50% headshot damage (headshots are already damage multipliers in and of themselves)
►35% - 50% accuracy boost to help you hit the bad guy in the head
►25% - 40% rate of fire boost to hit the bad guy's head a lot more often
That's not accounting for the weapon damage boost (which I presume will be at least another 20%) from the specialization power tree or the weapon damage boost found in the fitness tree that gives extra weapon damage for killing an enemy with heavy melee beforehand. Combine all that with a Typhoon, and you have one bad-ass motha****in' Quarian.
You can stick to that mindset all you like, but don't pretend that weapons and powers have been nerfed because they were considered to be too powerful.whateverman7 wrote...
Just Cav wrote...
I never used the word "overpowered". I merely pointed out that Marksman is going to be capable of incredible damage output. You're enviably optimistic if you believe that Marksman and Tactical Scan won't perform so well together that something is bound to be nerfed.
you never said overpowered, but that's what you're implying....i am optimistic, but i'm stating facts...no character is overpowered in this game, that's not gonna change with the marksman
People know this, but they also know that the power will not synergize well with Tac Scan & Marksman due to its horrendous cooldown.Mr. Sandman wrote...
Only thing i won't like about the class is the very long cooldown of the Sabotage.If only people knew that Sabotage is a lot better versus organics than with Synthetics, but that is all my opinion of course.Just Cav wrote...
Oh is it Sabotage? Well since no one's fighting the geth, it'll be skipped. Or maybe someone would be willing to skip the sixth rank of Fitness for three ranks of Sabotage. Oh well. Doesn't matter. 'Cause Harriers and Typhoons boosted by Marksman and Tactical Scan is going to be this guy's shining force.
That's team cohesion. That's a whole other beast.Knight_Quack wrote...
Just Cav wrote...
A relevantly-specced Marksman and Tactical Scan working together will provide:paperbook wrote...
Why is TS+Marksman OP?
►25% damage increase from all sources
►7.5% weapon damage
►50% headshot damage (headshots are already damage multipliers in and of themselves)
►35% - 50% accuracy boost to help you hit the bad guy in the head
►25% - 40% rate of fire boost to hit the bad guy's head a lot more often
That's not accounting for the weapon damage boost (which I presume will be at least another 20%) from the specialization power tree or the weapon damage boost found in the fitness tree that gives extra weapon damage for killing an enemy with heavy melee beforehand. Combine all that with a Typhoon, and you have one bad-ass motha****in' Quarian.
You can already have that provided you have a Male Quarian Engineer/Infiltrator in a team with a turian soldier, Quarian Marskman is just a combo. I don't think it would be nerfed since tactical cloak is better than marksman, and I don't see any topics regarding quarian male OPness. People are just paranoid.
ndw542 wrote...
Kal'Reegar: the character nobody would remember if not for his voice actor. I mean, seriously, the character's chief accomplishment was to not die from an infection while Shepard and Co. killed the Collosus that stomped his entire team.
i agree with ya, but i gotta take that backfire damage anyway just in case!!! its too nasty not too.Jack Crapper wrote...
People know this, but they also know that the power will not synergize well with Tac Scan & Marksman due to its horrendous cooldown.Mr. Sandman wrote...
Only thing i won't like about the class is the very long cooldown of the Sabotage.If only people knew that Sabotage is a lot better versus organics than with Synthetics, but that is all my opinion of course.Just Cav wrote...
Oh is it Sabotage? Well since no one's fighting the geth, it'll be skipped. Or maybe someone would be willing to skip the sixth rank of Fitness for three ranks of Sabotage. Oh well. Doesn't matter. 'Cause Harriers and Typhoons boosted by Marksman and Tactical Scan is going to be this guy's shining force.
At most, I'll be sticking 3 ranks in it. It may come in handy if there is a turret or an Atlas around, and I need to take a bite of a sandwich.
Just Cav wrote...
A relevantly-specced Marksman and Tactical Scan working together will provide:paperbook wrote...
Why is TS+Marksman OP?
►25% damage increase from all sources
►7.5% weapon damage
►50% headshot damage (headshots are already damage multipliers in and of themselves)
►35% - 50% accuracy boost to help you hit the bad guy in the head
►25% - 40% rate of fire boost to hit the bad guy's head a lot more often
That's not accounting for the weapon damage boost (which I presume will be at least another 20%) from the specialization power tree or the weapon damage boost found in the fitness tree that gives extra weapon damage for killing an enemy with heavy melee beforehand. Combine all that with a Typhoon, and you have one bad-ass motha****in' Quarian.
Not many people from the looks of it, every thread about Sabotage i see people keep saying it is worthless on the other factions except Geth.Jack Crapper wrote...
People know this, but they also know that the power will not synergize well with Tac Scan & Marksman due to its horrendous cooldown.Mr. Sandman wrote...
Only thing i won't like about the class is the very long cooldown of the Sabotage.If only people knew that Sabotage is a lot better versus organics than with Synthetics, but that is all my opinion of course.Just Cav wrote...
Oh is it Sabotage? Well since no one's fighting the geth, it'll be skipped. Or maybe someone would be willing to skip the sixth rank of Fitness for three ranks of Sabotage. Oh well. Doesn't matter. 'Cause Harriers and Typhoons boosted by Marksman and Tactical Scan is going to be this guy's shining force.
At most, I'll be sticking 3 ranks in it. It may come in handy if there is a turret or an Atlas around, and I need to take a bite of a sandwich.
Just Cav wrote...
You can stick to that mindset all you like, but don't pretend that weapons and powers have been nerfed because they were considered to be too powerful.
Mr. Sandman wrote...
Not many people from the looks of it, every thread about Sabotage i see people keep saying it is worthless on the other factions except Geth.Jack Crapper wrote...
People know this, but they also know that the power will not synergize well with Tac Scan & Marksman due to its horrendous cooldown.Mr. Sandman wrote...
Only thing i won't like about the class is the very long cooldown of the Sabotage.If only people knew that Sabotage is a lot better versus organics than with Synthetics, but that is all my opinion of course.Just Cav wrote...
Oh is it Sabotage? Well since no one's fighting the geth, it'll be skipped. Or maybe someone would be willing to skip the sixth rank of Fitness for three ranks of Sabotage. Oh well. Doesn't matter. 'Cause Harriers and Typhoons boosted by Marksman and Tactical Scan is going to be this guy's shining force.
At most, I'll be sticking 3 ranks in it. It may come in handy if there is a turret or an Atlas around, and I need to take a bite of a sandwich.
Hopefully they will change it to at least a 4 second cooldown but, i doubt that will happen....
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lol kwhateverman7 wrote...
Just Cav wrote...
You can stick to that mindset all you like, but don't pretend that weapons and powers have been nerfed because they were considered to be too powerful.
that's been rare...the main reason things have been nerfed was because of popularity
Broganisity wrote...
1) Who's Adam Baldwin.
2) What's Firefly (I am TV hating caveman and I don't care what you think.)
3) Am I the only one who's going to slap a Falcon on him and use Sabotage with Marksman Like a wierdo?
Operator m1 wrote...
ndw542 wrote...
Kal'Reegar: the character nobody would remember if not for his voice actor. I mean, seriously, the character's chief accomplishment was to not die from an infection while Shepard and Co. killed the Collosus that stomped his entire team.
I do. Kal's character is cool.
I agree, he almost overshadows him.AbhijitSM wrote...
I somehow think that it will reduce the popularity of the turian soldier for sure. TS + marksman is a better combination than Proxy mine + marksman. TS has a longer duration for debuff so you don't have to worry about cooldowns. Also side-hopping is so important
Factors that work for the turian are that the proxy mine gives a AOE debuff (albeit for a smaller duration) & the passive's buff that the turian's got recently.
turian has aoe damaging debuff, waaaay higher health and shields, higher base weapon damage, passive stability, and high weight threshold.darkpassenger2342 wrote...
I agree, he almost overshadows him.AbhijitSM wrote...
I somehow think that it will reduce the popularity of the turian soldier for sure. TS + marksman is a better combination than Proxy mine + marksman. TS has a longer duration for debuff so you don't have to worry about cooldowns. Also side-hopping is so important
Factors that work for the turian are that the proxy mine gives a AOE debuff (albeit for a smaller duration) & the passive's buff that the turian's got recently.
but at least with those new buffs to turians hell still have a great deal larger weapon damage and headshot bonus, and all that stability for guns like the striker/typhoon etc.
Just Cav wrote...
lol k
whateverman7 wrote...
Just Cav wrote...
lol k
you laugh, but look at the history of the major nerfs and the reasons given by bw for them....tc? cause they considered infils too popular cause they were being used 32% of the time....pirahnna & carnifex? cause they were being used a lot [just look at the thread: i call shotgun]....kyrsae (sp)? it was powerful, but mainly cause it was being used a lot...
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