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[ISHYGDDT]

Happy Shepard wrote...

Oh you.

And silly me was already starting to miss pointless nerf threads.

A non-sabotage Quarian Marksman would be a poor version of the Turian Soldier. He has no CC ability, can only debuff one enemy and has worse passives. On top of that, he has no high Health/Shields and no power that gives him DR or some kind of protection (AR, BA, Fortification etc.). Thus making weapons that require him to be exposed to enemy fire for a longer time more difficult to use on higher difficulties.

The only advantage this QM really has is the low CD on TacScan. It makes him a better heavy weapon user than the Tsol.

Edit: He's still a great character, but he's not going to be your "DPS-monster".

True, he's going to be a niche character, and require some skill and forethought to use.  Just like DPS monsters would all be if this game was actually balanced.  

That low cooldown on tactical scan (and more importantly its 26 second duration) is more significant than you think:  The ordinary Turian Soldier only gets proxy mine debuff on ~2/3 of his marksman duration at 200% cooldown.  They end up comparable in boss killing power under this scenario, assuming you can make constant headshots to take advantage of the Turian Soldier's higher headshot modifier.  At a poorer cooldown time the overlap between marksman and proxy mine debuff decreases drastically, and the Quarian pulls ahead.

I concur though, Quarian Marksman is so specialized, and frankly challenging to play (additionally because he doesn't get any stability bonuses), that I don't think he's likely to be the subject of any nerf threads.  More likely buff threads actually.   

Modifié par ISHYGDDT, 03 novembre 2012 - 02:30 .

[Happy Shepard]

ISHYGDDT wrote...

Happy Shepard wrote...

Oh you.

And silly me was already starting to miss pointless nerf threads.

A non-sabotage Quarian Marksman would be a poor version of the Turian Soldier. He has no CC ability, can only debuff one enemy and has worse passives. On top of that, he has no high Health/Shields and no power that gives him DR or some kind of protection (AR, BA, Fortification etc.). Thus making weapons that require him to be exposed to enemy fire for a longer time more difficult to use on higher difficulties.

The only advantage this QM really has is the low CD on TacScan. It makes him a better heavy weapon user than the Tsol.

Edit: He's still a great character, but he's not going to be your "DPS-monster".

True, he's going to be a niche character, and require some skill and forethought to use.  Just like DPS monsters would all be if this game was actually balanced.  

That low cooldown on tactical scan (and more importantly its 26 second duration) is more significant than you think:  The ordinary Turian Soldier only gets proxy mine debuff on ~2/3 of his marksman duration at 200% cooldown.  They end up comparable in boss killing power under this scenario, assuming you can make constant headshots to take advantage of the Turian Soldier's higher headshot modifier.  At a poorer cooldown time the overlap between marksman and proxy mine debuff decreases drastically, and the Quarian pulls ahead.    

That's what i said. He's going to be better with heavier weapons.

But the simple fact that he can't surpass the Tsol (who isn't really considered OP) unless there are certain circumstances and he'll probably be harder to "master", is proof enough for me that he isn't OP at all.

A great class? Sure. But not even close to what some other classes can do.

[PoetryAvenger]

I, for one, welcome our new immuno-deficient overlord.

[ISHYGDDT]

I guess we're in violent agreement then.

[alhamel94]

Happy Shepard wrote...

Oh you.

And silly me was already starting to miss pointless nerf threads.

A non-sabotage Quarian Marksman would be a poor version of the Turian Soldier. He has no CC ability, can only debuff one enemy and has worse passives. On top of that, he has no high Health/Shields and no power that gives him DR or some kind of protection (AR, BA, Fortification etc.). Thus making weapons that require him to be exposed to enemy fire for a longer time more difficult to use on higher difficulties.

The only advantage this QM really has is the low CD on TacScan. It makes him a better heavy weapon user than the Tsol.

Edit: He's still a great character, but he's not going to be your "DPS-monster".

you forget the turian soldier has a huge innate weight capacity

[bob2.0]

alhamel94 wrote...
you forget the turian soldier has a huge innate weight capacity

Implying that weight capacity makes or breaks a class.
Also implying that people take weight capactiy evolutions.

alhamel94 wrote...
you better be darn good at dodging since you will be squishy and have marksman and tactical scan, powers marksman typically forces soft cover or kinda taking a beating. so you will either have to be an epic dodger or be really good with soft cover to be effective with him on platinum

Implying soft cover is this incredibly difficult concept.

alhamel94 wrote...
this is what turians do with the ones that arent as strong they exile them to the migrant fleet

What the f*ck are you talking about?
Follow up question: Who gives a sh*t?

alhamel94 wrote...
whats better than tc please inform me

Hold on tighter to that crutch class. My HSol and TSol continue to curb stomp gold, since day mother****ing one.
What's your excuse?

alhamel94 wrote...
i would like to add when i play gi piranha with my normal team we beat gold, when im not we wipe wave 6 or 7

Stay the f*ck out of gold then.

alhamel94 wrote...
and that cloak nerf you keep talking about, that downright killed all infiltrators didnt it, nope it brought them to a reasonable level. stillthe best class because cloak still allows to get a massive damage bonusgives great survivabiluty and lets you tote big heavy weapons. tacticalcloak is still the best power in the game, if something is nerfed and is still the best how can you say it was undeserved?

Crutch class? Is that what you're saying?


tl;dr
Just stop f*cking posting.
And stay the f*ck out of gold, you GODDAMN SCRUB.

Modifié par bob2.0, 03 novembre 2012 - 06:53 .