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[Zso_Zso]

Old habits just can't be killed it seems. Since the last DLC+patch, camping in White and grabbing the lining up geth no longer works. In fact, White + Geth is nowhere near the easiest combo to farm, thanks to their cheap techniques (stun-lock, multi-shot rockets and hunters even from stun...)

So, you would think people have figured it out and moved onto playing something else.
BUT NO! Still when I search U/U/G I get into FBWGG lobbies half the time. When I get the lobby, I quit right away -- the new White was fun for a while, but it got stale already.

However, sometime I get thrown into a game already in progress. People no longer attempt to camp'n'grab, they move around so it isn't as boring as before. But as a result they die a lot more, struggle with the geth.

So, WHY do they keep choosing this losing, frustrating combo ?

[Drayce333]

Thats bad, but I find FBGiant geth gold waaaaaay more annoying.

[Zero132132]

Even when they choose other places, these morons keep choosing Geth. I have no idea why either. Maybe they're too damned stupid to even TRY other factions.

[Cake Tasty]

I have found exactly one FBWGG game since the changes

[Gabhlan]

Was wondering this too when I searched for a game against Geth on Gold so I could go Vanguarding with the fear of sync kills I kept finding Firebase White lobbies. No biggy though as if you search for reapers or something you'll usually find an unknown or another map to play on.

[Walhorin]

because geth are still easiest for regular people due to lack of sync kills.

[Grunt_Platform]

This might be funny but.. with the map changes, I actually find Geth on FBW to be pretty fun! Before the map changes they could be hellish if you weren't camping, but now? It's fun.

I still don't like sticking to one map/enemy combo that much and I'll never get people who do.

[akuma1973]

Zero132132 wrote...

Even when they choose other places, these morons keep choosing Geth. I have no idea why either. Maybe they're too damned stupid to even TRY other factions.

It's a smart move because Geth do not have instakill moves, and only have one boss who moves really slowly.

[Imp of the Perverse]

EvanKester wrote...

This might be funny but.. with the map changes, I actually find Geth on FBW to be pretty fun! Before the map changes they could be hellish if you weren't camping, but now? It's fun.

I still don't like sticking to one map/enemy combo that much and I'll never get people who do.

It actually is kind of fun now, if I land in one of those lobbies I'll usually stick around for a game, unless I just got out of one, or the other players look like complete muppets.

I've since stumbled across a couple of other "sure thing" maps, not really sure if geth is still the best faction but camping the far (from the LZ) end of Rio is pretty foolproof. Also if you stick to the LZ side of giant it's even easier - one or two people guard the room with the ladder (only one thing at a time can come up the ladder, so you probably only need one person), the other three people take cover between the entry to that room and the LZ and kill whatever's coming across the courtyard, or up the near ramp.

[Jon Phoenix]

Um, maybe it's because white is a fanastic map...and people are starting to realize Geth aren't this big impossible to fight faction that everyone makes them out to be.

If anything the extra room to move on white makes things a bit easier, more escape routes.

Also Bombers are way easier to control than Dragoons are. Geth aren't as easy as Reaper, but significantly easier than both Cerberus and Collector on gold.

[ryanshowseason3]

Good question. I haven't a clue why they still do this. It isn't a cakewalk anymore. That's what it was chosen for before.

[metaempiricist]

because it's enjoyable and that's why bioware changed it so we could enjoy it again.

[R0gueSp3ctre18]

Nostalgia perhaps. The map is much more technical now which is refreshing. Additionally, like most other's on here are stating, the Geth lack a unit that can insta-kill. This makes them an ideal faction for those players who are "new" to gold. All that is required is a character capable of setting up tech explosions with the rest of your squad to inflict maximum damage. Granted some skill is still required, but nothing like fighting the Collectors on any map on gold.

Modifié par blackproject18, 02 novembre 2012 - 01:28 .

[N7Kopper]

Jon Phoenix wrote...

Also Bombers are way easier to control than Dragoons are. Geth aren't as easy as Reaper, but significantly easier than both Cerberus and Collector on gold.

This. Staggers aren't that hard to deal with.
It's better to think of being staggered as "If this were another faction, I'd be on the ground from damage right now, but since this is geth, I may be able to escape with the RNG's blessing." because in a lot of cases, it is. Unless you're in cover - and geth cover busters are the easier ones to deal with.

[rosniak]

Well i prefer to play against geth, because they dont have any unit that can sync-kill.

[NikkoJT]

I don't understand why you would think "it's not a farming map any more" is a reason to not play it. Maybe they're not trying to farm! Maybe they just like playing against Geth on Gold difficulty on Firebase White.

[fallen_acolyte]

Maybe cause its actually an awesome map?

[OuterRim]

because the geth are still the easiest faction. The Prime is still the easiest boss to kill, and the new bomber is so easy to avoid and kill. They haven't changes much really, and people have gotten use to their cheapness.

[Invader Nemesis]

Old habits die hard? I'm already sick of the new FBW. Luckily I've been finding gold matches that aren't geth. I'm very thankful for that at least.

[Xaio]

I say because they don't know any other farming setup(Bioware took that away, remember?). Staggers are really hard to deal with if you're being hammered by a single Prime with a Hunter and Pyro(and that's a small spawn on Gold, comes as early as wave 3, have fun) as you attempt escape and die repeatedly(wasting tons of gel early on, if you're like most of BSN). That and silver doesn't provide that many credits and plenty of PUGs still fail that often.

Or did BSN forget just how much damage the Geth do?

I like the new Firebase White, but I bet PUGs don't at all.  Also, while I believe the Prime is easily the most powerful boss unit in the game, it's also both the least intimiating and also lacks a instant kill.  Not to mention it's quite slow and usually seperate from the rest of the Geth.

Oh, I also believe that instant-kills scare the hell out of most PUGs.

Modifié par Xaio, 02 novembre 2012 - 01:50 .

[Invader Nemesis]

akuma1973 wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

Even when they choose other places, these morons keep choosing Geth. I have no idea why either. Maybe they're too damned stupid to even TRY other factions.

It's a smart move because Geth do not have instakill moves, and only have one boss who moves really slowly.

 Reapers are easier than geth. Banshees and brutes are easliy avoided (brutes die fast any way) unless your playing on Glacier. Reapers on Glacier = not fun.

[SlayerGP]

The only reason to play Geth is because they don't have sync-kill units. But while they're not difficult, they're incredibly frustrating and annoying to play.

As to the OP, I think it's because they can still farm on that map. They know the map and enemy reasonably well so they stick to it, even though they've had to modify their camping tactic a bit.

[CookieRocket]

I like to play as a Paladin, so for me the Geth are a good enemy because I can refill my shields by using Energy Drain on any enemy. It's a matter of personal play style. I farmed FBWGG the other day with PUGs. I had to carry them, but I still farmed successfully. I think a lot of people threw out the baby with the bathwater after the changes, rather than just make a few adjustments for successful farming.

[ASmoothCriminalx]

How do you know when you join a game in progress that those players chose the map and enemy? you don't. I've had people insta quit out of my games and I imagine it's because they see the map is FBW.. only the lobby was UUG.

[mackfactor]

You can still hold ("camp") the back of that map, it just takes more of a team effort and a little more aggression than it used to. And probably a little more skill.