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[Stahlhammer]

Sihmm wrote...

Stahlhammer wrote...

I tried this today. Didn't have to respec cause the build is almost identical, and i happen to have Saber X too.

It was fun, but i must say Saber is just not working for me. When hipfired i managed to miss Praetorians @ point blank. Can't explain that, just happens. Did much better with Talon, Paladin and Acolyte.

I can't explain Saber hipfire missing at point blank either - it shouldn't be that inaccurate.

But yes, for me it wasn't about specifically the Saber so much as it was about finding a strong weapon that I was personally comfortable with.  Talon is a very popular choice, but didn't work so well for me and also unfortunately prevents carrying an Acolyte.  Would be interested to hear what weapon combination you eventually settle on

I will try Harrier, but farming ammo crates doesn't sound too much fun. Since i rarely play Platinum (not too entertaining with PUGs) i found Acolyte only to work pretty good - mooks are not a problem, and occasional bosses get spammed by incinerate.. plus teammates help too 

[koschwarz74]

I've always liked her. but now she is superior with the latest fixes on her powers. i play her with a simple acolyte and i use omnicapacitor gear. i spam powers like hell. turret for distraction and some damage. acolyte-ice-fire. simple but effective.

[Sihmm]

JohnShades wrote...

Wow, that is the most soothing voice I've ever heard. Kinda want to take a nap now.

I'm not sure how to take that... thanks, I think? 

Stahlhammer wrote...
I will try Harrier, but farming ammo crates doesn't sound too much fun. Since i rarely play Platinum (not too entertaining with PUGs) i found Acolyte only to work pretty good - mooks are not a problem, and occasional bosses get spammed by incinerate.. plus teammates help too

Yes I'm not too fond of the Harrier either because of the ammo issue, plus mine is only at level IV still.  It certainly kills stuff dead though.

koschwarz74 wrote...
I've always liked her. but now she is superior with the latest fixes on her powers. i play her with a simple acolyte and i use omnicapacitor gear. i spam powers like hell. turret for distraction and some damage. acolyte-ice-fire. simple but effective.

There is something appealing about the.. purity, I guess, of an acolyte QFE.  I am very fond of using a big loud gun on her though.

[koschwarz74]

i play only on gold so there i don't need big guns, on platinum it's mandatory i guess.

[Fortack]

koschwarz74 wrote...

I've always liked her. but now she is superior with the latest fixes on her powers. i play her with a simple acolyte and i use omnicapacitor gear. i spam powers like hell. turret for distraction and some damage. acolyte-ice-fire. simple but effective.

It's effective against mooks, but your FQE will suck against armored foes which are plenty on gold+ (esp Reapers and Collectors). Any decent weapon (Acolyte is great against shields & barriers but thrash versus armor) will mow through armor multiple times faster than spamming powers only. Since you can equip the Acolyte free of (cooldown) charge you should bring a second weapon to deal with armor.

If you're determined to have a (close to) 200% cooldown bonus (difference between 100 and 200 % bonus makes hardly any difference on her though) at least bring something like the Hurricane to handle armor. Cryo Blast is a great debuff (75% armor weakening + 25% damage bonus). Take advantage of this by shooting when she's on cooldown, makes her a much more effective warrior.

[Jeeshan2]

Great stuff - gonna try out your weapon loadout. Always played the FQE with a talon, but this should be fun cheers mate.

Modifié par Jeeshan2, 05 novembre 2012 - 01:03 .

[Zjarcal]

Sihmm wrote...

Pretty much this exactly.  It's such a shame that Sentry Turret and its brethren no longer mesmerise banshees and the like, though I can understand why it was 'fixed'.  Would be nice if it got a bit more of a health or damage upgrade to compensate - not that it's bad right now, but I still feel it's more something you throw during a free cooldown as a bonus than a truly integral part of the class.

A health buff is what I feel the turret needs the most above all. I never really cared for the hypno abilities of the drones (just felt too cheap), so that fix from the patch doesn't bother me, but it could definitely use that health buff. Platinum phantoms usually take it out before it can do much... not fair. 

Anyway, great video! FQE is one of my favorite characters (second or third) and it's really great to see someone display her potential.

About weapons, as Fortack said, a good weapon is a must with her, she may be a "caster" class but that doesn't mean her powers will do all the work for her. When you have something like Cryo Blast's 25% weapon debuff, you're not meant to waste it on a weak weapon! Fortack's Claymore build is awesome, personally though, I prefer the Hurricane or the Wraith (I do want to keep the cooldowns a bit fast). I do like how you used the Saber on her, pretty neat. 

Modifié par Zjarcal, 05 novembre 2012 - 01:28 .

[Sihmm]

Added a wee video of the same setup on Gold, using pity equipment (no rail amp, stronghold package, shield power cells) and again heavy on team synergy - lots of fire, cryo, tech, even biotic explosions, lots of stacking damage debuffs etc.  I don't go down the entire game (the benefits of host bonus!), which nicely illustrates my assertion from the previous video that you don't need a cyclonic on her to survive.

QFE Reapers White Hazard Gold
(from a few weeks back, hence White Hazard)

No commentary this time, but Chieftex's dulcet tones more than make up for that :]

Reapers are of course the enemy she's natively strongest against, and though using Disruptor Ammo against them is obviously not ideal it still works just fine.

Modifié par Sihmm, 13 novembre 2012 - 12:51 .

[Flubbdrubb]

I'm just reviving this thread for the weekend challenge.

[Crimson Vanguard]

I don't like QFE since shes not destructive enough for me.

[Deerber]

All guides from Sihmm are golden. Well deserved bump!

[Fortack]

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

I don't like QFE since shes not destructive enough for me.

Then I feel sorry for you, bro. Mine is quite deadly (hint, give her the Claymore

[Deerber]

Fortack wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

I don't like QFE since shes not destructive enough for me.

Then I feel sorry for you, bro. Mine is quite deadly (hint, give her the Claymore

I was about to say "Then you haven't played with Fortack" 

By the way, I'm definitely getting used to her. She's one of my favourite kits now. At least it presents a bit of a challenge. Thanks for showing me! :happy:

Modifié par Deerber, 08 février 2013 - 07:46 .

[HolyAvenger]

I'll just leave my take on her here too 


Though I am about to switch a 06666 build to test that.

[Crimson Vanguard]

Deerber wrote...

Fortack wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

I don't like QFE since shes not destructive enough for me.

Then I feel sorry for you, bro. Mine is quite deadly (hint, give her the Claymore

I was about to say "Then you haven't played with Fortack" 

By the way, I'm definitely getting used to her. She's one of my favourite kits now. At least it presents a bit of a challenge. Thanks for showing me! :happy:

Already try with that. Still not destructive enough compare to Human Infiltrator.

[Deerber]

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Fortack wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

I don't like QFE since shes not destructive enough for me.

Then I feel sorry for you, bro. Mine is quite deadly (hint, give her the Claymore

I was about to say "Then you haven't played with Fortack" 

By the way, I'm definitely getting used to her. She's one of my favourite kits now. At least it presents a bit of a challenge. Thanks for showing me! :happy:

Already try with that. Still not destructive enough compare to Human Infiltrator.

Yeah well... roughly 5/6 of the kits in the game aren't as destructive as a HI 

[tatski]

She was always gold+ viable.. I treat her as a weapon oriented kit, she wreck armor units... Although she's outclassed by top tier kits but she is still a solid pick on plat/gold and even easier to use than most kits..

Modifié par tatski, 08 février 2013 - 08:28 .

[Beerfish]

I come back to this class often for silver and on gold. I don't play her as aggressive as in the video and am currently not spec'd into turret at all. I normally try and stay at range with her and I use the Indra,perhaps I will try a more heavy hitting gun. One feature that is underrated is the speed slow down you get with some powers such as Cryo. It seems to make a noticeable difference against some bosses and even better you can plug up a spawn by hitting the 1st critter with it.

[Fortack]

tatski wrote...

She was always gold+ viable.. I treat her as a weapon oriented kit, she wreck armor units... Although she's outclassed by top tier kits but she is still solid on plat/gold and even easier to use than most kits..

Pretty much this. She can compete with 3/4 of the characters out there and a lot of fun to play.

And you're welcom Deerber, always a pleasure playing with ya