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[lazydivey]

So we all know that the story will likely continue (already an expansion DLC rumored).  What ending do you all think will be cannon?  Will DLCs set after the ending of the blight adapt to whatever you chose to do at the end or will there be a set story?

Obviously in any expansion there will be some involvement with the Morrigan and her old god spawn, but will Alistair be king or Anora?  Personally I hope  Queen Anora becomes cannon, while I can't stand her at all, I'd rather have her as queen than not be able to have Alistair in my party for any future expansions....he's just too entertaining.

 

[uberman409]

The cannon ending will have a loud "BANG!"



This will be followed promptly by the moans of the victims.

[Namirsolo]

uberman409 wrote...

The cannon ending will have a loud "BANG!"

This will be followed promptly by the moans of the victims.

And I thought I would be the first one to say something like this.

It doesn't seem like the writers want to pick a canon ending, but I'm guessing that unless the next game is hundreds of years in the future they will have to elude to something in it.

Probably- Alistair ends up as king with Anora and the pc warden goes off to rebuild the wardens.

[EJon]

You guys have no faith in Bioware do you? Why would they allow you to make choices if it won't affect the sequel or DLC's? Have you ever heard of Mass Effect? Obviously not. You need to read up on choice transfers from the first game to the second. Thats how Bioware is going to handle it. Bioware didn't start this feature just to ditch it. I'm pretty sure all future games will have it if they have sequels or expansion packs.

Comment from a developer:



“We’re not really talking about that at the moment, but yeah, certainly this is a world that is going to continue to evolve and we’d like for the choices that you make to impact that,” Darrah said when asked whether the decisions made in the first game will carry weight when the inevitable sequel hits.

[lazydivey]

I didn't know about that quote and I haven't been following the Mass Effect 2 development (I didn't want to be spoiled at all). I'm glad to hear that the choices you make will effect any expansion or sequel.

[Namirsolo]

I read a post by David Gaider where he said that they were not intending to do the Mass Effect 2 thing with this game. He did say that they may consider it in the future, but it's not in the plans so far.

[EJon]

What he meant was they're not making Dragon Age into a trilogy, like Mass Effect. But they're making it where your decisions will impact what happens in the sequel. Dragon Age 2 is already in the works, started around September according to Patrick Weekes.

[Default137]

Probably Alistar becomes King, and Morrigan either has your kid, or Alistars kid.



Gaider has mentioned that they will be focusing on Morrigan, and that Alistar will play a big role in the second game, and even though they are putting a ton of work into making Mass Effect very choice based ( Ashley or Kaiden will appear in ME2, depending on which one survived, Wrex may appear and help you if he survived the first game, etc ) I doubt Dragon Age will get the same treatment, especially since all the end choices are either "Die" or "Demon Baby"

[MorningBird]

Default137 wrote...

Probably Alistar becomes King, and Morrigan either has your kid, or Alistars kid.

Gaider has mentioned that they will be focusing on Morrigan, and that Alistar will play a big role in the second game, and even though they are putting a ton of work into making Mass Effect very choice based ( Ashley or Kaiden will appear in ME2, depending on which one survived, Wrex may appear and help you if he survived the first game, etc ) I doubt Dragon Age will get the same treatment, especially since all the end choices are either "Die" or "Demon Baby"

There is also a "Live with no Demon Baby" ending too.  If you spare Loghain and have him slay the Archdemon in your stead.

Honestly, if they create a 'canon' ending I'll cry.  I'm way too attached to my own version of events to suddenly be told that everything my PC went through was a 'lie' or 'wrong'.

I'm hoping that BioWare will just pull a Fable 2 and have the game take 500 years in the future, in a different country, and burn down some important library housing historical documents relevant to the Blight so that the past is simply left 'ambiguous'.

Modifié par MorningBird, 02 janvier 2010 - 07:30 .

[EJon]

Default137 wrote...

Probably Alistar becomes King, and Morrigan either has your kid, or Alistars kid.

Gaider has mentioned that they will be focusing on Morrigan, and that Alistar will play a big role in the second game, and even though they are putting a ton of work into making Mass Effect very choice based ( Ashley or Kaiden will appear in ME2, depending on which one survived, Wrex may appear and help you if he survived the first game, etc ) I doubt Dragon Age will get the same treatment, especially since all the end choices are either "Die" or "Demon Baby"

On the contrary, Gaider was the one who said that her role in the second game won't be as central as people think.

[Default137]

EJon wrote...

Default137 wrote...

Probably Alistar becomes King, and Morrigan either has your kid, or Alistars kid.

Gaider has mentioned that they will be focusing on Morrigan, and that Alistar will play a big role in the second game, and even though they are putting a ton of work into making Mass Effect very choice based ( Ashley or Kaiden will appear in ME2, depending on which one survived, Wrex may appear and help you if he survived the first game, etc ) I doubt Dragon Age will get the same treatment, especially since all the end choices are either "Die" or "Demon Baby"

On the contrary, Gaider was the one who said that her role in the second game won't be as central as people think.

Oh? Could you find that link?

The last thing I remember reading was a few days after launch, when everyone was going on about Demon Baby, and how they wanted Closure, and him mentioning a bunch about how they have big plans for her in future things, and they would have to wait.

[Eruanna Guerrein]

MorningBird wrote...

Default137 wrote...

Probably Alistar becomes King, and Morrigan either has your kid, or Alistars kid.

Gaider has mentioned that they will be focusing on Morrigan, and that Alistar will play a big role in the second game, and even though they are putting a ton of work into making Mass Effect very choice based ( Ashley or Kaiden will appear in ME2, depending on which one survived, Wrex may appear and help you if he survived the first game, etc ) I doubt Dragon Age will get the same treatment, especially since all the end choices are either "Die" or "Demon Baby"

There is also a "Live with no Demon Baby" ending too.  If you spare Loghain and have him slay the Archdemon in your stead.

Honestly, if they create a 'canon' ending I'll cry.  I'm way too attached to my own version of events to suddenly be told that everything my PC went through was a 'lie' or 'wrong'.

I'm hoping that BioWare will just pull a Fable 2 and have the game take 500 years in the future, in a different country, and burn down some important library housing historical documents relevant to the Blight so that the past is simply left 'ambiguous'.

I think moving on to centuries in the future would suck. I really, really hope they don't do that.

Besides, the epilogue for a character who lives says we haven't heard the last of your character yet. It seems to me there are some plans to include you in a sequel or expansion. I don't necessarily believe there must be a canon ending though.

But maybe that's just my desire fooling me.

[fanman72]

I think it's best we see how they handle Mass Effect 2 before going into speculation on how they'll continue DA2. It's possible there will only be vague references to the decisions you made in the past for many choices, but some (Landsmeet, Ritual) are so big there will have to be a way to import prior decisions made.

[MorningBird]

Eruanna Guerrein wrote...

I think moving on to centuries in the future would suck. I really, really hope they don't do that.

Besides, the epilogue for a character who lives says we haven't heard the last of your character yet. It seems to me there are some plans to include you in a sequel or expansion. I don't necessarily believe there must be a canon ending though.

But maybe that's just my desire fooling me.

I think the epilogue refers to the 2 years of DLC/expansions BioWare has planned out, but I could be wrong.

Either way, I'd rather start with a fresh character in DA:2 then have my old one erased because 'oops, I played the game wrong', though I see your point.  Having the sequal take place 500 years after the Blight in order to spare everyone the grief of losing their characters is a bit much.

The appoach I'd actually be most interested in seeing is the one they're promising for Mass Effect, but like the above poster pointed out, I'd perfer to see how that plan pans out before jumping aboard the banwagon.

[Stuffy38]

My guess is:

King Al and Queen Anora, with son or daughter named after the PC.

Loghain dead.

PC dead.

Dalish at Ostagar.

Alienage about the same.

King Bhelen.

Mage circle fixed and all the blood and meat cleaned up.



I'd hope that if there was to be a sequel, that the 'canon' was handled the same way as KOTOR2, where you had a series of questions about Revan / light sabre colours etc. (That's testing the ol' memory a bit I haven't played that game for ages).

[Spitz6860]

the fact that Morrigan don't want you to go look for her and does not tell you what she's gonna do with kid is just, well, if that's not foreshadowing i don't know what is.

And Alistair is not king material, you know it, i know it, even himself knows it.

but if you are gonna be playing as the Grey Warden then Bioware'll have to think of a way to resurrect the darkspawn, which will likely be no longer than 5 years after the one in Origins, so as Mr.T would put it, i pity the fools that live in Fereldan

[metalica11]

making anything canon really sucks anywaqy when you have a game with choices ( Thank you Lucus for crapping on lovers of KotoR by allowing the main char be canonically male even though its a game of choice) I certainly hope that doesn't happen here or with Mass Effect, as simply calling the main char Grey Warden without using gender identifying nouns ( or is it pronouns?) would easily rectify this.

[Few87]

I doubt there will be a canon ending. I imagine the next game will be somewere else in the world entirely and a long time before or after and an expansion pack will probably be a totally unrelated side story. The only thing that will be the same is the world its set in. Perhaps they wish they hadnt put so many endings in and that way they could continue with your ending.

[jon 45]

The thing with setting the next game more than 70 years in the future is that the name Dragon Age won't be appropriate any more.
Of course they did something similar with BG2, but that was the direct continuation of the first game.

Modifié par jon 45, 02 janvier 2010 - 12:27 .

[ZuuZuu]

jon 45 wrote...

The thing with setting the next game more than 70 years in the future is that the name Dragon Age won't be appropriate any more.
Of course they did something similar with BG2, but that was the direct continuation of the first game.

Yeah I was going to mention this, if the sequel is in a different age, won't the name have to be changed?

[IAuronI]

MorningBird wrote...

Default137 wrote...

Probably Alistar becomes King, and Morrigan either has your kid, or Alistars kid.

Gaider has mentioned that they will be focusing on Morrigan, and that Alistar will play a big role in the second game, and even though they are putting a ton of work into making Mass Effect very choice based ( Ashley or Kaiden will appear in ME2, depending on which one survived, Wrex may appear and help you if he survived the first game, etc ) I doubt Dragon Age will get the same treatment, especially since all the end choices are either "Die" or "Demon Baby"

There is also a "Live with no Demon Baby" ending too.  If you spare Loghain and have him slay the Archdemon in your stead.

Honestly, if they create a 'canon' ending I'll cry.  I'm way too attached to my own version of events to suddenly be told that everything my PC went through was a 'lie' or 'wrong'.

I'm hoping that BioWare will just pull a Fable 2 and have the game take 500 years in the future, in a different country, and burn down some important library housing historical documents relevant to the Blight so that the past is simply left 'ambiguous'.

I have chosen "demon baby" line... Will Morrigan still leave if I didn't kill Loghain and make him Warden..? Is there happy ending with Morrigan?

[LadyVaJedi]

I did "dark ritual" as well and I am Queen with King Al. I gotten the line haven't seen the last of PC...

[LynxAQ]

LadyVaJedi wrote...

I did "dark ritual" as well and I am Queen with King Al. I gotten the line haven't seen the last of PC...

Unless you sacrifice yourself, you always get that line. It has less to do with a possible sequel, and more to do with EA reminding you, that you can buy and download DLC's to continue playing with your character.

I still want my Coco Cola advertisement board in Denerim. You are beginning to disappoint me EA.

[Quientus]

Even though it would require rather massive and extensive coding of multiple possibilities and results of different choices, what I am really (wanting and) looking forward to in possible DLC expansions that are set *after* the killing of the Archdemon (and not content that are added and then supposed to be completed before this) is similar to the following;



IF you choose to sacrifice yourself, in the expansion, you would then have to completely play the game again and make a different choice, after all, you cannot really be revived ... >.<

- this was about the single only thing I disliked with the Baldurs Gate series, that which ever you did in the previous really had NO effect whatsoever in what you were able to do in the sequel (Baldurs Gate 2 and Baldurs Gate The Throne of Bhaal) ...



IF you decide to kill Zevran or any other PC for that matter, those PC's will NOT be available to you in the sequel, unless you as above, restart the game from scratch and make a different choice ...



Similar to the above, - However I know that is probably wishful thinking, but seeing how the game is built up, that would really be something to look forward to, don't you think ?

Last, I cannot really understand why there are these threads about "<insert NPC Companion name here> sucks etc etc" ... I mean ... I consider it one of the great strengths of the game that you actually have to make some choices along the way that actually have an impact in the endgame ...



ex. if you side with the Templars or fail to rescue Irving, you will not have the choice in Redcliffe to actually be able to defeat the Demon in the Fade, without either sacrificing the child or his mother ... same goes for the dwarven girl who wants to study at the circle, - if Irving is dead, the Templars simply refuses to accept her, - ofcourse you can always tell her to go anyway, and thus complete the quest itself, however, she won't be in the circle if you revisit, like she is if Irving is alive ...



The only thing I find slightly annoying, well there are two are these:



1) The Toolset ... I cannot believe nor understand that when you are creating custom content that there are only so few "options" to chose from in terms of looks, I mean, in NWN 1 and 2 there are much more diversity when it comes to creating items and placeables ...



All in all the Toolset, considering the game, I find a little disappointing in terms of "creatitivity" that is - the toolset itself is a great tool and very complex and diverse in general, but not when it comes to creating custom items ...



2) The absence of a multiplayer part ...



Now I can understand that the extensive amount of coding may have prohibited the latter, but I really don't see how it could in any way have been an obstacle when concerning the former ...



Ofcourse I know there is always the option of rendering and drawing up your own models and then including them in the game, however, for people such as me, that would simply require too much work (LOL) ...



But all in all I do find that Dragon Age is a great game, albeit with some minor flaws, however, what game hasn't flaws ?

[Hahren]

"Canon" ending will most likely involve the dark ritual. There are many signs that point to Orlais being the next locale so most of the events in Ferelden may be eluded to, but you won't see them.



We'll most likely see Morrigan again as a member of the royal court in Orlais (one of her text endings says that, and a couple mention her moving to Orlais). Arl Foreshadow's notes also mention Orlais.



So I guess that a sequel will take place roughly 20-30 years after the events of DA:O (enough time to have a "demon baby" grow up). The plot will probably revolve around the ramifications of an awakened Old God. Unless the Old God isn't aware, and the game takes a spin ala Baldur's Gate series with the player being the Warden/Morrigan child. Either way having an Old God that isn't trapped in the ground is a pretty dig deal for this fantasy world. It would be a shame to not use that. It makes it even more interesting if it's in Orlais. They seem pretty involved with the Chantry, and since the Maker hasn't done anything overtly in thousand years an Old God might create a crisis of faith. Also there might be a bigger involvement with elves if Arl Foreshadow's notes mean anything.



I just hope that the antagonist of the next game isn't an Archdemon per se as defeating another blight would be weak. However, I do have a lot of faith in the writing staff at Bioware to make a successful story. The only time I have been let down was KotOR 2, and that was only because the ending felt rushed (and it might have been). Even though I say I was let down by that game I still felt the story was better than just about anything else out there.



Even on their worst days Bioware can come up with fantastic stories.