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[Orian Tabris]

So I've been hearing recently, that Sten (the companion in Origins, obviously) is the new Arishok, and will be in DA3.

Is this true? I mean, sure Leliana was retconned, and sure she became Divine Justinia III's right hand for her feats alongside the most famous Warden. She even joined the Seekers, most likely above the older Seekers who had been there longer, but will BioWare really do the same for Sten? Is he truly the new Arishok in DA3, even though he can supposedly die at the hands of the darkspawn in Lothering (if left in the cage)?

Also, is there only one Arishok, or are there more than one in the Qunari's society?

[Firky]

Maybe put a spoiler warning in the title? (Personally, I already knew this, but it's a pretty big spoiler, no?)

Also, I have no idea if he will actually be the/an Arishok in DA3 though.

I really like the fact that Sten's views on the Qun etc were being challenged in Origins, so I dunno about him being Arishok. However, maybe he'll be a more liberal (?) Arishok, or his influences taken from the Warden will have some meaning. There could be potential.

[Urzon]

Firky wrote...

I really like the fact that Sten's views on the Qun etc were being challenged in Origins, so I dunno about him being Arishok. However, maybe he'll be a more liberal (?) Arishok, or his influences taken from the Warden will have some meaning. There could be potential.

Sten might be only the slightest bit more liberal now. The Warden might have challenged his views a bit in Origins, but from what i heard; Sten got a nice healthy dose of reeducation when you got back. The qunari wouldn't want the ignorant bas to taint him after all.

[Nashimura]

I wonder how many just left Sten there.

Well you cant kill Sten and you never see him die, in any medium if the death is off screen don't count on them staying dead. They just have to throw in a line at some point explaining how he kicked the cage door open for what ever reason and escaped.

Or maybe when David Gaider said that comics only happened as it was wrote if it matches up with your save file or it happened differently, or not at all.

[KiwiQuiche]

I wonder if anything would change if your Warden chose to leave with Sten in the end of Origins then.

[Chaos Lord Malek]

I have killed both Sten and Arishok. So who is my new Arishok now?

[Janus198]

Orian Tabris wrote...
Is he truly the new Arishok in DA3, even though he can supposedly die at the hands of the darkspawn in Lothering (if left in the cage)?

We never saw a death scene. And is really so hard to imagine that someone else let him out?
The problem about Sten as Arishok is his sword.
I don´t like that idea but he have to find it by chance.

[Battlebloodmage]

Chaos Lord Malek wrote...

I have killed both Sten and Arishok. So who is my new Arishok now?

You can't kill Sten, even if he rebelled against you.

[Fredward]

Uhm. Well this is a toughy. If Sten died, or was left for the darkspawn, you'll get some OTHER qunari as the new Arishok. Really folks. Really.

[efrgfhnm_]

Well since it isn't required for you to actually kill the Arishok in DA2 it would be pretty stupid to have all players get Sten as the new Arishok, especially since if we left him in his cage it would be a miracle for him to escape and find his sword.

[The Elder King]

Just to be clear, Sten-Arishok's situation is the same for King Alistair. For their comics, they need to make some decision about determinate characters. The comics rapresents a DA story where Alistair become King ans Sten is the new Arishok. As for Alistair, which Gaider said that it won't be king unless the PC made him king in DAO, Sten might be Arishok if you recruited him.
Although, Sten died off-screen in DAO (in the epilogue slides, if I recall) and I remember Bioware said that Anders's case isn't the same as Leliana's. Plus, they said that they might bring back NPC like they did with Leliana if they think it's important/necessary for the story. Considering those two points, it might happen that Sten will be the Arishok regardless the DAO's outcome, though this is a possibility, and it's not related to the fact that Sten is the Arishok in the comics (since Alistair will be king only if you made him).

[The Elder King]

efrgfhnm wrote...

Well since it isn't required for you to actually kill the Arishok in DA2 it would be pretty stupid to have all players get Sten as the new Arishok, especially since if we left him in his cage it would be a miracle for him to escape and find his sword.

The fact that the you don't have to kill the Arishok in DA2 doesn't mean that he could've died later, or that the qunari decided to have a new Arishok. We don't know how the highest ranking members of the Qun are promoted or how they change them.

[Firky]

Urzon wrote...

Firky wrote...

I really like the fact that Sten's views on the Qun etc were being challenged in Origins, so I dunno about him being Arishok. However, maybe he'll be a more liberal (?) Arishok, or his influences taken from the Warden will have some meaning. There could be potential.

Sten might be only the slightest bit more liberal now. The Warden might have challenged his views a bit in Origins, but from what i heard; Sten got a nice healthy dose of reeducation when you got back. The qunari wouldn't want the ignorant bas to taint him after all.

That's a good point. But he saw what the Warden achieved and respected him/her. (Probably, in a canonically, vague kind of a way?)

I dunno. Surely, if Sten were Arishok, there'd have to be some complication, based on Origins, or the inclusion would make no sense. (To my mind.)

[Frocharocha]

Chaos Lord Malek wrote...

I have killed both Sten and Arishok. So who is my new Arishok now?

There's still 2 arishoks left in Par Vollen.

[Fredward]

Frocharocha wrote...

Chaos Lord Malek wrote...

I have killed both Sten and Arishok. So who is my new Arishok now?

There's still 2 arishoks left in Par Vollen.

-twitch-

If both Sten and the Arishok are dead then there will be some new unnamed, unmet Qunari taking the mantle. Because, shockingly, there are Qunari we haven't met yet. And secondly there is NOT "2 arishoks" left in Par Vollen, there is a Arigena and a Ariqun. These are not the same things.

Capiche?

[The Elder King]

Frocharocha wrote...

Chaos Lord Malek wrote...

I have killed both Sten and Arishok. So who is my new Arishok now?

There's still 2 arishoks left in Par Vollen.

In Par Vollen there's the other two leaders of the qunari (the ariqun and the arigena), not two Arishoks. There's only one arishok in the qun. If you saved Sten and didn't kill the Arishok, and Sten will be the new Arishok, it means that the former Arishok died after the events in DA2 or was demoted.

[Equilibristic]

Well, my main Warden never recruited Sten, so... who knows. Sten IS the Arishok according to the comic, but said comic also states Alistair is the King. In my main playthrough, Alistair sacrificed himself for my PC.... Well, it will be interesting to see, how they approach this...

[esper]

Nashimura wrote...

I wonder how many just left Sten there.

Well you cant kill Sten and you never see him die, in any medium if the death is off screen don't count on them staying dead. They just have to throw in a line at some point explaining how he kicked the cage door open for what ever reason and escaped.

Or maybe when David Gaider said that comics only happened as it was wrote if it matches up with your save file or it happened differently, or not at all.

Actually can't you kill him at the entrance to Haven? I think you can after the duel... hmm...

[Maria Caliban]

Yes, you can kill Sten. Morrigan is the only Origin companion you can't kill or have killed.

Frocharocha wrote...

Chaos Lord Malek wrote...

I have killed both Sten and Arishok. So who is my new Arishok now?

There's still 2 arishoks left in Par Vollen.

There's only one Arishok. There's also an Ariqun and an Arigena, who aren't military leaders.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 03 novembre 2012 - 03:05 .

[PsychoBlonde]

Keep in mind, also, that just because he's the Arishok in the comics, that doesn't mean he'll be the Arishok in DA3. Alistair may kill him in #3 for all we know.

The comic preview is up if you want to check out some of their brutal fight.

Modifié par PsychoBlonde, 03 novembre 2012 - 03:11 .

[Knight of Dane]

No, you can leave him in the cage, that doesn't mean he died from it.

[Maria Caliban]

Knight of Dane wrote...

No, you can leave him in the cage, that doesn't mean he died from it.

We're not talking about leaving him in the cage. We're talking about killing him.

Edit: Which apparently isn't possible after all. Sorry about that.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 03 novembre 2012 - 03:12 .

[Atakuma]

We have no reason to assume the Arishok will even be in DA3 since it was confirmed that the qunari do not have a major role in the story.

[Terrorize69]

Tallis is the next Arishok lol.

[Chaos Lord Malek]

Gaider said in another thread, that comixes and books are not canon, only what we make in game. So if Sten is dead, and Arishok from DA2 is also dead, i will got a new Arishok, not Sten.